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[andy@andynicholson.com]

Anyone have any recommendations for wheel balancers? Here are the two I am considering: http://home.socal.rr.com/bbtr/Products/BMW_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm http://www.pbase.com/rodneff/2axis_adj_balancer Thanks!

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2003-06-26 4:54:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andy@... writes:

> > Anyone have any recommendations for wheel balancers? Here are the two I am > considering: > > http://home.socal.rr.com/bbtr/Products/BMW_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm > > http://www.pbase.com/rodneff/2axis_adj_balancer > >

Here is another source to compare: http://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.html"> [url=http://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.htmlhttp://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.html> I found a unit that looks like this but with removable arms and a storage drawer built into the stand in the Parts Unlimited catalog (might have been Rocky/Tucker) for around $150. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 9:08 PM -0400 6/26/03, kdxkawboy@... wrote:

>In a message dated 2003-06-26 4:54:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >andy@... writes: > >> >> Anyone have any recommendations for wheel balancers? Here are the two I am >> considering: >> >> http://home.socal.rr.com/bbtr/Products/BMW_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm >> >> http://www.pbase.com/rodneff/2axis_adj_balancer >> >> > >Here is another source to compare: HREF="http://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.html"> >[url=http://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.htmlhttp://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.html> > >I found a unit that looks like this but with removable arms and a storage >drawer built into the stand in the Parts Unlimited catalog (might have been >Rocky/Tucker) for around $150.

Those are all bordering on overkill for what you need to balance a KLR wheel. Lister Richard Cullison made a slick "pocket-sized" balancer out of four Roller Blade wheel bearings, some steel bar and string, all for about $10. I've seen it in action and it works quite well Richard? Ya wanna add to this, maybe post a pic?? Mark

[Andy Nicholson]

This info is all really useful, and I appreciate all the info I can get. FWIW, I actually do care about the more expensive balancers, I have 2 Beemers with wheels to balance. In all honesty, if it were just the KLR I might not even bother When I replaced the factory (Dunlop) rear with an IRC, I was content to line up on the balance mark, and even then I had it backwards. I just installed a set of Metzler Karoo's and they don't have balance marks at all, so I'll see how it goes. I'm skeptical that it will make that much of a difference. Ah, yes, everyone will want to know about the mileage: Replaced factory rear tire at 2350 mi. Probably was good for another 300 - 600 miles, but I had more miles than that to get home and wouldn't have had another chance to change the tire. I've got 5100 miles now and there is still about 2mm of usable tread front (factory Dunlop) and rear (IRC GP110). At this rate the factory front is good for around 7500 miles and the IRC GP110 is good for around 4500 miles. I swapped the tires out because I want to enjoy full knobbies for the rest of the summer. Cheers! P.S. Ultra Heavy Duty 4mm inner tubes are a bit more difficult to install than regular tubes. I didn't bother with it on the front.

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tengai Mark Van Horn [mailto:Tengai650@...] > > From: kdxkawboy@... [mailto:kdxkawboy@...] > >Here is another source to compare: HREF="http://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.html"> >[url=http://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.htmlhttp://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.html> > >I found a unit that looks like this but with removable arms and a

storage

>drawer built into the stand in the Parts Unlimited catalog (might have

been

>Rocky/Tucker) for around $150.

Those are all bordering on overkill for what you need to balance a KLR wheel. Lister Richard Cullison made a slick "pocket-sized" balancer out of four Roller Blade wheel bearings, some steel bar and string, all for about $10. I've seen it in action and it works quite well Richard? Ya wanna add to this, maybe post a pic?? Mark

[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

> P.S. Ultra Heavy Duty 4mm inner tubes are a bit more difficult to > install than regular tubes. I didn't bother with it on the front.

Andy, where did you get Ultra Heavy Duty tubes for the 17" rear, from Fred? What brand and size are they? About 7500 miles ago when I put Distanzia's on my bike the best rear tube I could find was a good quality Metzler, but not heavy duty... Thanks, Mark KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html My Adelphia Email can be "iffy." If you don't get a response, please try: KLR6500@...

[rfcullison]

I really just copied the minibalancers shown on Rod Neff's website http://www.pbase.com/rodneff/minibalancer. The idea, as with his balancer stand, is that you use the bikes axle bolt. If there is too much friction for the tire to spin easily on the axle bearings then the bolt will roll on the two bearings on each side. On my KLR the front wheel bearings rolled easily enough that the balancer bearings did not move, but the back worked the other way around. This will only work on a bike with axle bolt so it would not be useful for say a BMW rear or my Hawk GT with a single sided swingarm, then you need the threaded rod with the cones to center the wheel. I used the inline skate bearings because I had them and they rolled freely. I had some better quality bearings, but they were designed for a heavier load and had too much friction to be usefull. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> At 9:08 PM -0400 6/26/03, kdxkawboy@a... wrote: > >In a message dated 2003-06-26 4:54:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > >andy@a... writes: > > > >> > >> Anyone have any recommendations for wheel balancers? Here are

the two I am

> >> considering: > >> > >>

http://home.socal.rr.com/bbtr/Products/BMW_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.h tm

> >> > >> http://www.pbase.com/rodneff/2axis_adj_balancer > >> > >> > > > >Here is another source to compare: >HREF="http://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.html"> > >[url=http://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.htmlhttp://www.largiader.com/balancer/balancer.html> > > > >I found a unit that looks like this but with removable arms and a

storage

> >drawer built into the stand in the Parts Unlimited catalog (might

have been

> >Rocky/Tucker) for around $150. > > Those are all bordering on overkill for what you need to balance a

KLR wheel.

> Lister Richard Cullison made a slick "pocket-sized" balancer out of > four Roller Blade wheel bearings, some steel bar and string, all

for

> about $10. > I've seen it in action and it works quite well > Richard? Ya wanna add to this, maybe post a pic?? > Mark

[Judson D. Jones]

I don't know if you will find 17" ultra HD tubes. I forget where I got mine, but it is an 18". I found it easier than normal to install. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mark St.Hilaire, Sr" wrote:

> > P.S. Ultra Heavy Duty 4mm inner tubes are a bit more

difficult to

> > install than regular tubes. I didn't bother with it on the front. > > Andy, where did you get Ultra Heavy Duty tubes for the 17" rear,

from Fred?

> What brand and size are they? About 7500 miles ago when I

put Distanzia's on

> my bike the best rear tube I could find was a good quality

Metzler, but not

> heavy duty... > > Thanks, > Mark > > > > KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: > http://klr6500.tripod.com/ > > HomePage: > http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html > > My Adelphia Email can be "iffy." If > you don't get a response, please try: > KLR6500@h...

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2003-06-26 10:28:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andy@... writes:

> This info is all really useful, and I appreciate all the info I can get. > > FWIW, I actually do care about the more expensive balancers, I have 2 > Beemers with wheels to balance. In all honesty, if it were just the KLR > I might not even bother >

In part, that is the reason I got the stand. Multiple bikes and I keep getting hooked into helping other folks mount new tires. The other reason was I wanted something to do double duty as a trueing stand. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Andy Nicholson]

I got them from Bellevue (WA) Kawasaki near where I work. They are from Fly racing. The rear is a 4.6" x 17", the front is 80/100x21. Dual Star also sells 4mm tubes. MSR has "heavy duty" and "ultra heavy duty", but I don't think they have an appropriate sized rear in the ultra. Moose also sells heavy duty tubes, their web site says 2.5mm front and 3mm rear. I have an MSR ultra 80/100x21 and it is not nearly as thick as the Fly, so I would guess that the MSR ultras are probably the same as the Moose tubes. The 4mm rear really was hard to get in. The tube is so thick and stiff that it was especially hard to get the valve through the hole in the wheel, and I couldn't keep the opposite bead fully in the well on the rim when levering the last part of the bead onto the wheel. It probably would have been easier if I had done it in sunlight with a warm tire and tube, but I did it at night. On the plus side, it's going to take one hell of a thistle to puncture that tube. I sure hope so anyway, because I don't want to have to mess with it when I'm away from my garage. Cheers!

> -----Original Message----- > From: Mark St.Hilaire, Sr [mailto:msaint@...] > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 3:12 AM > To: 1 - KLR650 List; Andy Nicholson > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Wheel balancing tools > > > > P.S. Ultra Heavy Duty 4mm inner tubes are a bit more difficult to > > install than regular tubes. I didn't bother with it on the front. > > Andy, where did you get Ultra Heavy Duty tubes for the 17" > rear, from Fred? > What brand and size are they? About 7500 miles ago when I put > Distanzia's on > my bike the best rear tube I could find was a good quality > Metzler, but not > heavy duty... > > Thanks, > Mark

[Rob Newman]

looks like I just missed the last one; and the only one on eBay is almost up to $200 and it has four days left (not sure if people realize you can get a brand spanking new one for around $225; but ah well) offering up to $185 depending upon age and quality thanks -rob