socal east winds

[Bogdan Swider]

Anybody have experience bolting stuff into concrete ? Last fall I decided to remove a still usable set of Avon Distanzias and install a set of more dirt/gravel worthy Kendas. The Distanzias were a bear to get off and - surprisingly - this pair of Kendas was a pain to get on. All was fine in the end - no pinched tubes or other permanent problems - but it took too long and was too much work. Months later my ears perked up when DR guy Sarge posted on the Colorado DS list that he purchased a tire change set up from Harbor Freight -were else ?- for $ 80. Wanted to put the Avons back on so I asked Sarge if I could try his machine. Another KLR guy -some know Rex- who has lots of experience with tire changing machines went with me. The change went much easier than by hand. Rex pronounced the set up worth buying. He did advise however, that it would work better if bolted to the garage floor than the board it was on when we used it. I ordered it and - as promised - Harbor freight arranged delivery from the third world to my door. Now I need to attach it to my garage floor. Any advice/info much appreciated. Bogdan

[gpokluda]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Bogdan Swider" wrote:

> Anybody have experience bolting stuff into concrete ? - Harbor

freight arranged delivery from the third world

> to my door. Now I need to attach it to my garage floor. Any

advice/info

> much appreciated. > > Bogdan

You will need a hammer drill. Thrid World Inc., also known as Harbor freight, has 'em for cheap. Then you will need some anchor bolts that you can get from your local hardware store. Gino www.rvmc.com

[Larry Risley]

You may want to ask them how to listen for rebar when you are drilling, steel in the concrete can trash a bit.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bogdan Swider" To: "KLR List (E-mail)" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:46 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Bolts Into Concrete ?? nklr

[Devon Jarvis]

I've always used a masonry bit, sized for the lead anchors, which are sized to fit the bolts you use. I've never used a hammer drill, just a regular drill with a carbide-tipped masonry bit lubricated with lots of water. The secret is slow to moderate RPM, lots of pressure, and LOTS of water on the bit. You want to keep the bit from heating up much at all. The rebar comment was a good one but most people don't have rebar in a residential garage floor. Plus the carbide tip will usually cut through steel. Devon A15 Bogdan Swider wrote:

> > Anybody have experience bolting stuff into concrete ?

[dooden]

Too make it easy, go to your local tool rental and rent a nail gun, it uses .22 cal blanks to pop the nails / maybe even threaded studs into concrete and steel. I would shoot a 2x4 frame into the concrete and then lag bolt the tire machine down, that way you can unbolt the machine and stuff it in a corner or where ever when not in use, at least you can park over the 2x4 framing on the concrete, might be a trip hazzard after a few too many brews, but if snug up to the wall maybe with hanging lawn chairs or something on the wall so even drunk you know to walk around them and miss the framing. Just my $.02 worth Dooden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Bogdan Swider" wrote:

> Anybody have experience bolting stuff into concrete ? Last fall I

decided

> to remove a still usable set of Avon Distanzias and install a set

of more

> dirt/gravel worthy Kendas. The Distanzias were a bear to get off

and -

> surprisingly - this pair of Kendas was a pain to get on. All was

fine in

> the end - no pinched tubes or other permanent problems - but it

took too

> long and was too much work. Months later my ears perked up when DR

guy

> Sarge posted on the Colorado DS list that he purchased a tire

change set

> up from Harbor Freight -were else ?- for $ 80. Wanted to put the

Avons

> back on so I asked Sarge if I could try his machine. Another KLR

guy -some

> know Rex- who has lots of experience with tire changing machines

went with

> me. The change went much easier than by hand. Rex pronounced the

set up

> worth buying. He did advise however, that it would work better if

bolted

> to the garage floor than the board it was on when we used it. I

ordered it

> and - as promised - Harbor freight arranged delivery from the third

world

> to my door. Now I need to attach it to my garage floor. Any

advice/info

> much appreciated. > > Bogdan

[Larry Risley]

Rental stores with construction stuff will set you up with a drill a bit and bolts and epoxy. Larry

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bogdan Swider" To: "KLR List (E-mail)" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:46 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Bolts Into Concrete ?? nklr > Anybody have experience bolting stuff into concrete ? Last fall I decided > to remove a still usable set of Avon Distanzias and install a set of more > dirt/gravel worthy Kendas. The Distanzias were a bear to get off and - > surprisingly - this pair of Kendas was a pain to get on. All was fine in > the end - no pinched tubes or other permanent problems - but it took too > long and was too much work. Months later my ears perked up when DR guy > Sarge posted on the Colorado DS list that he purchased a tire change set > up from Harbor Freight -were else ?- for $ 80. Wanted to put the Avons > back on so I asked Sarge if I could try his machine. Another KLR guy -some > know Rex- who has lots of experience with tire changing machines went with > me. The change went much easier than by hand. Rex pronounced the set up > worth buying. He did advise however, that it would work better if bolted > to the garage floor than the board it was on when we used it. I ordered it > and - as promised - Harbor freight arranged delivery from the third world > to my door. Now I need to attach it to my garage floor. Any advice/info > much appreciated. > > Bogdan > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[dooden]

Oh as for drilling into dense concrete even with a hammer drill is not fun, then multiple that by how many holes and its even not funner.. Nail Gun Duuuuuuuuuuuuude... BAM reload BAM reload BAM reload BAM ... Your done in about 30 seconds as compaired to what will feel like hours at a drill... Hilti has a pistol type that can be rented... Loads are on a strip, and nails/studs if you will are loaded in by hand one at a time. It can only fire if enuff pressure is pushed down on the unit, so it is fairly safe to use, unless your take a... never mind use it the way its intended. Dooden

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > Too make it easy, go to your local tool rental and rent a nail gun, > it uses .22 cal blanks to pop the nails / maybe even threaded studs > into concrete and steel. > > I would shoot a 2x4 frame into the concrete and then lag bolt the > tire machine down, that way you can unbolt the machine and stuff it > in a corner or where ever when not in use, at least you can park over > the 2x4 framing on the concrete, might be a trip hazzard after a few > too many brews, but if snug up to the wall maybe with hanging lawn > chairs or something on the wall so even drunk you know to walk around > them and miss the framing. > > Just my $.02 worth > > Dooden > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Bogdan Swider" > wrote: > > Anybody have experience bolting stuff into concrete ? Last fall I > decided > > to remove a still usable set of Avon Distanzias and install a set > of more > > dirt/gravel worthy Kendas. The Distanzias were a bear to get off > and - > > surprisingly - this pair of Kendas was a pain to get on. All was > fine in > > the end - no pinched tubes or other permanent problems - but it > took too > > long and was too much work. Months later my ears perked up when DR > guy > > Sarge posted on the Colorado DS list that he purchased a tire > change set > > up from Harbor Freight -were else ?- for $ 80. Wanted to put the > Avons > > back on so I asked Sarge if I could try his machine. Another KLR > guy -some > > know Rex- who has lots of experience with tire changing machines > went with > > me. The change went much easier than by hand. Rex pronounced the > set up > > worth buying. He did advise however, that it would work better if > bolted > > to the garage floor than the board it was on when we used it. I > ordered it > > and - as promised - Harbor freight arranged delivery from the third > world > > to my door. Now I need to attach it to my garage floor. Any > advice/info > > much appreciated. > > > > Bogdan

[monahanwb]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "gpokluda" wrote:

> You will need a hammer drill. Thrid World Inc., also known as

Harbor

> freight, has 'em for cheap. Then you will need some anchor bolts > that you can get from your local hardware store.

Since it's your garage floor remember that it's only about 3.5" thick. You'll have to use short anchors and not beat them in too hard or the thing will punch through the floor into the fill underneath. Better to drill a shallow hole for a short anchor, tap lightly with a single-jack (short sledge) and use some heavy duty glue as well, maybe some subfloor glue or other tough stuff. A tight shallow hole with a lag screw and glue has worked for me many times, ofter way better than expanding anchors. The coarse threading on a 3/8" or 1/2" lag bites will into the concrete.

[gpokluda]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote:

> Oh as for drilling into dense concrete even with a hammer drill is > not fun, then multiple that by how many holes and its even not > funner.. > > Nail Gun Duuuuuuuuuuuuude... BAM reload BAM reload BAM reload

BAM ...

> > Your done in about 30 seconds as compaired to what will feel like > hours at a drill... >

Hmmm.... mounted my Coats 220 tire machine into my shop floor in just a matter of minutes complete with four 3/8" studs. Little bit of dust and that was it. If it take you hours with a hammer drill, get a sharp bit. Gino www.rvmc.com

[dooden]

But did your drill make cool gun sounds while making the holes ? Did you get the smell of burnt gunpowder or just a face full of dust ? Huh Huh Huh ? We all want to know.... If you got a hammer drill and bits I suppose thats fine, but if you got to go buy bolts, lead anchors, rent the drill and all that.. Why not just shoot them in and return the nail gun same as the hamma drill, kinda like the KLR its all about options. I prefer burnt gun powder over concrete dust any day !! Dooden

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "gpokluda" wrote: > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > > Oh as for drilling into dense concrete even with a hammer drill is > > not fun, then multiple that by how many holes and its even not > > funner.. > > > > Nail Gun Duuuuuuuuuuuuude... BAM reload BAM reload BAM reload > BAM ... > > > > Your done in about 30 seconds as compaired to what will feel like > > hours at a drill... > > > > Hmmm.... mounted my Coats 220 tire machine into my shop floor in > just a matter of minutes complete with four 3/8" studs. Little bit > of dust and that was it. If it take you hours with a hammer drill, > get a sharp bit. > > Gino > www.rvmc.com