new step-by-step doohickey procedure... (now nklr)

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* Deks*
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Post by * Deks* » Thu Sep 28, 2000 3:19 am

>Subject: De-Californicating - 1 more question >Hello: >I'd like to thank the 10 or so folks who emailed me yesterday with >an answer to my question about the t-fitting in the vacuum line. I >was even more amazed that all 10 answers were the same! >Next question: I got the feeling from several of you that on non-CA >spec KLR's, there is only a single [1] vent line that exits from >the rear of the tank? True? And if true, then I imagine that on a >As it is right now my de-Californized bike has 2 vent lines coming out >the back and dropping down into the frame area to vent if needed. I'd >rather just plug one at the tank and let the other vent down via ahose. >Also, I have completed my intitial draft of my "How To De-California >Your CA-Spec Bike" article. It's in MS Word format and I'd be glad to >send it out to anyone who emails me in order to have you proof read >this or give it a try. Again, if you live in CA do NOT do this. You are >required by law to have this equipment. >Thanks, >Tom Vervaeke >EX-CA model A13
I dont get it. The two lines do not affect your bike's efficiency. Why would you like to get rid of one? If one gets stuck with dirt you got a spare tube... Then, do non-Californian bikes need any remodelling to enter California? I live in Europe and your bike is fine if it passes homologation tests - you can ride anywhere. What amases me is that the US is one country, yet you need a different bike for California than the rest of US. Why is that? I was thinking about a trip to US next summer on my KLR A2 from New York to LA and then south to Mexico. Would I have to pay a fee for not having a Californian KLR while riding there? How do other US riders riding through California do it? Fair wind and good riding, Deks, Croatia _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com

Tumu Rock
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Post by Tumu Rock » Thu Sep 28, 2000 3:37 am

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:19:38 GMT, * Deks* wrote: Then, do non-Californian bikes need any remodelling to enter California? I live in Europe and your bike is fine if it passes homologation tests - you can ride anywhere. What amases me is that the US is one country, yet you need a different bike for California than the rest of US. Why is that? I was thinking about a trip to US next summer on my KLR A2 from New York to LA and then south to Mexico. Would I have to pay a fee for not having a Californian KLR while riding there? How do other US riders riding through California do it? Fair wind and good riding, Deks, Croatia>>>>>>>>>> I could be wrong Deks, but I think you can ride or drive anything you want into California you just can't register there unless it passes their emissions requirements. Drop a line if you're passing thru the Big Apple I'll show how much fun traffic on narrow bridges can be. ;'P dat brooklyn bum _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html

Weaver, Mark
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Post by Weaver, Mark » Thu Sep 28, 2000 11:16 am

> > I could be wrong Deks, but I think you can ride or drive > anything you want > into California you just can't register there unless it passes their > emissions requirements. Drop a line if you're passing thru > the Big Apple > I'll show how much fun traffic on narrow bridges can be. ;'P > > dat brooklyn bum
with bikes, the emissions requirements only apply to new bikes sold in cali. you can register pretty much any used bike here (baja-kitted red-sticker dirt bikes may be an exception. no one really knows for sure). even though it's all one country, keep in mind that california is bigger, richer, and more populous that most european countries, and mostly due to Los Angeles, we have special smog problems here. that's why the emissions requirements are so stringent. If there were only a million or so people living here, it probably wouldn't be economically feasible to have special vehicle regulations, but as it is, there's enough of a market that manufacturers have to adapt to it, at least on their high-volume bikes. of course it never occurred to anyone that bikes are probably not a significant contributor to smog, but then again, if everyone drove an old 2-stroke, maybe they would be. i don't mean this to be funny or offensive or insensitive, but as amazed as Deks is at california vehicle regs, just imagine how amazed we californians are at the ethnic tensions near where he lives. everywhere has their own history, and everyone's laws, habits and customs are probably at least a little baffling to everyone else. -mark

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Post by Rev.Chuck » Thu Sep 28, 2000 5:37 pm

>I dont get it. The two lines do not affect your bike's efficiency. Why would >you like to get rid of one? If one gets stuck with dirt you got a spare >tube... >Then, do non-Californian bikes need any remodelling to enter California? I >live in Europe and your bike is fine if it passes homologation tests - you >can ride anywhere. What amases me is that the US is one country, yet you >need a different bike for California than the rest of US. Why is that? >I was thinking about a trip to US next summer on my KLR A2 from New York to >LA and then south to Mexico. Would I have to pay a fee for not having a >Californian KLR while riding there? How do other US riders riding through >California do it?
I can see that this is not easy to understand, I know I don't and I live in California. Deks, don't worry about any changes to your bike coming into California, unless you plan on registering it and keeping it here. Even then there would be no changes required to a motor cycle. Non-California automobile owners pay a one time fee when they come to live in the state with a non-california smog prepared vehicle, but that is another story. California is not the only state with air pollution laws requiring somg reducing equipment on vehicles, but we lead the technology many times. Anyway, the officials only check motorcycles by design: If the original design does not include smog controls, it does not get sold here as a new vehicle. == Rev. Chuck :^)>+ A13 http://klr650.50megs.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____________________________________________________________ Email Powered by Everyone.net

* Deks*
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Post by * Deks* » Fri Sep 29, 2000 4:29 am

>I can see that this is not easy to understand, I know I don't and I >live >in California. >Deks, don't worry about any changes to your bike coming into >California, >unless you plan on registering it and keeping it here. >Even then there >would be no changes required to a motor cycle. Non->California automobile >owners pay a one time fee when they come to live >in the state with a >non-california smog prepared vehicle, but that is >another story. >California is not the only state with air pollution laws requiring >smog >reducing equipment on vehicles, but we lead the technology many >times. >Anyway, the officials only check motorcycles by design: If the >original >design does not include smog controls, it does not get sold >here as a new >vehicle.== >Rev. Chuck:^)>+A13 >http://klr650.50megs.com~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thanks Rev, Your explanation is best so far. I've been to Cairo in '97 and at sunrise the visibility is normal but during early rushhour it goes down to 200 meters because of smog. On the other hand, London air today is more breathable than 15 years ago due to strict air pollution laws. I hope these special laws will reduce pollution in California in the near future. Take care, Deks, Croatia _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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Post by Greg S » Sat Nov 30, 2002 9:04 pm

A while ago I thought I saw a post on how someone removed all the emissions equipment from their California-purchased KLR. I searched the archives but found nothing. Does anyone know of a site/posting etc. containing the steps necessary to remove the emissions equipment? My CA-compliant bike now lives in Seattle, so there's no need to keep it CA-certified.

Greg S
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Post by Greg S » Sun Dec 01, 2002 2:07 am

Just the ticket from someone on the list -- a web-site with complete instructions and pics! http://klr6500.tripod.com/decalif.htm Thanks, Gredg
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new step-by-step doohickey procedure... (now nklr)

Post by RM » Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:40 pm

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, hens_p wrote:
>Were you using a heavy duty tube or stock tube?
It was a heavy duty tube. You need to use a heavy-duty compiler on the next build of Shimcalc. That will fix the problem.

Mark St.Hilaire, Sr

de-californication

Post by Mark St.Hilaire, Sr » Mon Dec 02, 2002 2:14 pm

> A while ago I thought I saw a post on how someone removed all the
emissions
> equipment from their California-purchased KLR. I searched the archives
but
> found nothing. Does anyone know of a site/posting etc. containing the
steps
> necessary to remove the emissions equipment? My CA-compliant bike now
lives
> in Seattle, so there's no need to keep it CA-certified.
Holy cow! I think Adelphia fixed it, and I'm getting list messages again! Ain't life grand?! Greg, I've got this one on my website, courtesy of Scott. I don't have a CA model, so would have been clueless about the procedure. Try: http://klr6500.tripod.com/decalif.htm Mark KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html My Adelphia Email can be "iffy." If you don't get a response, please try: KLR6500@...

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