salvage on a 97

[Judson D. Jones]

A trail riding buddy from a neighboring state called me for advice today. He had advertised his 1100GS on the internet, and after an exchange of correspondence, agreed to sell it to an overseas buyer, who arranged to pay him with a cashier's check drawn on a West Virginia bank. For reasons that are not yet clear, the check was for a substantial amount ($1000.00 or so) more than the agreed price. My friend cashed the check and deposited the funds in his bank. The buyer subsequently emailed my friend, informing him with sadness and regret, that since his (the buyer's) father had passed away, he was unable to purchase the motorcycle. Would my friend please return his funds, keeping $1000.00 for his trouble, and the buyer would agree to find him a new buyer. Upset at losing the sale, bit with $9600.00 in his account, my friend called me for advice. What should I tell him? Would your advice be different if I told you that the buyer was in Nigeria? True story.

[Chuck MacKarness, CQA]

Odd situation. Personally I would contact the West Virginia bank and put the responsibility of investigation in their hands, this sounds like a laundering to me... 2 cents - Rev. Chuck

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Judson D. Jones" wrote: > A trail riding buddy from a neighboring state called me for advice > today. He had advertised his 1100GS on the internet, and after an > exchange of correspondence, agreed to sell it to an overseas buyer, > who arranged to pay him with a cashier's check drawn on a West > Virginia bank. For reasons that are not yet clear, the check was for a > substantial amount ($1000.00 or so) more than the agreed price. My > friend cashed the check and deposited the funds in his bank. The buyer > subsequently emailed my friend, informing him with sadness and regret, > that since his (the buyer's) father had passed away, he was unable to > purchase the motorcycle. Would my friend please return his funds, > keeping $1000.00 for his trouble, and the buyer would agree to find > him a new buyer. Upset at losing the sale, bit with $9600.00 in his > account, my friend called me for advice. What should I tell him? Would > your advice be different if I told you that the buyer was in Nigeria? > > True story.

[Robert Diaz]

Is this for real? We just had a thread on this not too long ago. Sounds like the "Counterfeit Cashier Check" scam that is popular in Africa, or so I've heard. Good luck to your friend! --- "Judson D. Jones" wrote:

> A trail riding buddy from a neighboring state called > me for advice > today. He had advertised his 1100GS on the internet, > and after an > exchange of correspondence, agreed to sell it to an > overseas buyer, > who arranged to pay him with a cashier's check drawn > on a West > Virginia bank. For reasons that are not yet clear, > the check was for a > substantial amount ($1000.00 or so) more than the > agreed price. My > friend cashed the check and deposited the funds in > his bank. The buyer > subsequently emailed my friend, informing him with > sadness and regret, > that since his (the buyer's) father had passed away, > he was unable to > purchase the motorcycle. Would my friend please > return his funds, > keeping $1000.00 for his trouble, and the buyer > would agree to find > him a new buyer. Upset at losing the sale, bit with > $9600.00 in his > account, my friend called me for advice. What should > I tell him? Would > your advice be different if I told you that the > buyer was in Nigeria? > > True story. > >

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[Devon Jarvis]

Just a week or so ago, a whole thread came up about Nigerian scam artists and the "certified" bank check scheme. The check is probably a forgery, the "buyer" is hoping that your friend will immediately send the money because he deposited a "certified" check, and it will take a while for the banks to sort out the forgery and call the police. At which point your buddy will be PLUS one fraud investigation, and MINUS a lot of money. He should go to his bank and tell the branch manager he is suspicious of the "certified" check. Then tell the "buyer" that his bank has raised questions about the check, but he will send the money as soon as the matter is cleared up. $1000 for your "trouble"? Devon "Judson D. Jones" wrote:

> > A trail riding buddy from a neighboring state called me for advice > today. He had advertised his 1100GS on the internet, and after an > exchange of correspondence, agreed to sell it to an overseas buyer, > who arranged to pay him with a cashier's check drawn on a West > Virginia bank. For reasons that are not yet clear, the check was for a > substantial amount ($1000.00 or so) more than the agreed price. My > friend cashed the check and deposited the funds in his bank. The buyer > subsequently emailed my friend, informing him with sadness and regret, > that since his (the buyer's) father had passed away, he was unable to > purchase the motorcycle. Would my friend please return his funds, > keeping $1000.00 for his trouble, and the buyer would agree to find > him a new buyer. Upset at losing the sale, bit with $9600.00 in his > account, my friend called me for advice. What should I tell him? Would > your advice be different if I told you that the buyer was in Nigeria? > > True story. >

[Judson D. Jones]

Exactamundo. We just had this thread, and now my buddy thinks I am one tuned-in fraud lawyer. Thanks to the list, my friend in Wisconsin has been spared a whole pile of inconvenience. My mother thanks you, my father thanks you...

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > Just a week or so ago, a whole thread came up about Nigerian scam > artists and the "certified" bank check scheme. > > The check is probably a forgery, the "buyer" is hoping that your friend > will immediately send the money because he deposited a "certified" > check, and it will take a while for the banks to sort out the forgery > and call the police. At which point your buddy will be PLUS one fraud > investigation, and MINUS a lot of money. > > He should go to his bank and tell the branch manager he is suspicious of > the "certified" check. Then tell the "buyer" that his bank has raised > questions about the check, but he will send the money as soon as the > matter is cleared up. > > $1000 for your "trouble"? > > Devon > > "Judson D. Jones" wrote: > > > > A trail riding buddy from a neighboring state called me for advice > > today. He had advertised his 1100GS on the internet, and after an > > exchange of correspondence, agreed to sell it to an overseas buyer, > > who arranged to pay him with a cashier's check drawn on a West > > Virginia bank. For reasons that are not yet clear, the check was for a > > substantial amount ($1000.00 or so) more than the agreed price. My > > friend cashed the check and deposited the funds in his bank. The buyer > > subsequently emailed my friend, informing him with sadness and regret, > > that since his (the buyer's) father had passed away, he was unable to > > purchase the motorcycle. Would my friend please return his funds, > > keeping $1000.00 for his trouble, and the buyer would agree to find > > him a new buyer. Upset at losing the sale, bit with $9600.00 in his > > account, my friend called me for advice. What should I tell him? Would > > your advice be different if I told you that the buyer was in Nigeria? > > > > True story. > >

[PRBKLR@cs.com]

Sounds like a money laundering scheme "Judson D. Jones" wrote:

>A trail riding buddy from a neighboring state called me for advice >today. He had advertised his 1100GS on the internet, and after an >exchange of correspondence, agreed to sell it to an overseas buyer, >who arranged to pay him with a cashier's check drawn on a West >Virginia bank. For reasons that are not yet clear, the check was for a >substantial amount ($1000.00 or so) more than the agreed price. My >friend cashed the check and deposited the funds in his bank. The buyer >subsequently emailed my friend, informing him with sadness and regret, >that since his (the buyer's) father had passed away, he was unable to >purchase the motorcycle. Would my friend please return his funds, >keeping $1000.00 for his trouble, and the buyer would agree to find >him a new buyer. Upset at losing the sale, bit with $9600.00 in his >account, my friend called me for advice. What should I tell him? Would >your advice be different if I told you that the buyer was in Nigeria? > >True story. > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[KJ]

FOR SALE. KLR650 2000. some extras, Never Dropped, Never Offroad, $40,000 prefer offshore buyer.

> Sounds like a money laundering scheme > >

[S. B. Lawrence]

The other's are RIGHT. He should not send a dime until he has verified with that West Virginia bank (assuming it exists) that the check was authentic and actually did clear their bank! Pretty good chance the whole thing is a scam. If it did clear there is no ethical delimma. Ship him the bike only keeping what was agreed to, it belongs to him now, and a deal's a deal. IF the check was *real* then the guy is obviously "able" to purchase it not "unable" to purchase it, and just wants to renig on the deal for whatever reason by using some IAL bogus sob story. Sorry if some people think I'm a hardass but as the TV judge sez "I was born in the morning but not THIS morning."

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Judson D. Jones" wrote: > A trail riding buddy from a neighboring state called me for advice > today. He had advertised his 1100GS on the internet, and after an > exchange of correspondence, agreed to sell it to an overseas buyer, > who arranged to pay him with a cashier's check drawn on a West > Virginia bank. For reasons that are not yet clear, the check was for a > substantial amount ($1000.00 or so) more than the agreed price. My > friend cashed the check and deposited the funds in his bank. The buyer > subsequently emailed my friend, informing him with sadness and regret, > that since his (the buyer's) father had passed away, he was unable to > purchase the motorcycle. Would my friend please return his funds, > keeping $1000.00 for his trouble, and the buyer would agree to find > him a new buyer. Upset at losing the sale, bit with $9600.00 in his > account, my friend called me for advice. What should I tell him? Would > your advice be different if I told you that the buyer was in Nigeria? > > True story.

[Judson D. Jones]

Well, here's the dilemma: knowing it is a scam, should he just keep the money on the chance that the bank will somehow miss it? (obviously, if the check by some miracle is not bogus, he should send the bike.)

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "S. B. Lawrence" wrote: > The other's are RIGHT. He should not send a dime until he has > verified with that West Virginia bank (assuming it exists) that the > check was authentic and actually did clear their bank! Pretty good > chance the whole thing is a scam. > > If it did clear there is no ethical delimma. Ship him the bike only > keeping what was agreed to, it belongs to him now, and a deal's a > deal. IF the check was *real* then the guy is obviously "able" to > purchase it not "unable" to purchase it, and just wants to renig on > the deal for whatever reason by using some IAL bogus sob story. > > Sorry if some people think I'm a hardass but as the TV judge sez "I > was born in the morning but not THIS morning." > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Judson D. Jones" wrote: > > A trail riding buddy from a neighboring state called me for advice > > today. He had advertised his 1100GS on the internet, and after an > > exchange of correspondence, agreed to sell it to an overseas buyer, > > who arranged to pay him with a cashier's check drawn on a West > > Virginia bank. For reasons that are not yet clear, the check was > for a > > substantial amount ($1000.00 or so) more than the agreed price. My > > friend cashed the check and deposited the funds in his bank. The > buyer > > subsequently emailed my friend, informing him with sadness and > regret, > > that since his (the buyer's) father had passed away, he was unable > to > > purchase the motorcycle. Would my friend please return his funds, > > keeping $1000.00 for his trouble, and the buyer would agree to find > > him a new buyer. Upset at losing the sale, bit with $9600.00 in his > > account, my friend called me for advice. What should I tell him? > Would > > your advice be different if I told you that the buyer was in > Nigeria? > > > > True story.

[Douglas Dick]

Is that the KLR650 that almost conquered the Alcan 5000? In that case, the bike is priceless because of its historical value. Douglas Dick Winnipeg, MB CA mailto:ddick2@... And in Your majesty ride prosperously because of truth, humilty, and righteousness. Psalm 45.3 -----Original Message----- From: Zachariah Mully [mailto:zmully@...] Sent: November 8, 2002 1:16 PM To: guymanbro Cc: KLR List Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] salvage on a 97

On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 13:46, guymanbro wrote: > The insurance company totalled my bike (i can re-build it!!). Any > idea what a fair deal on salvage is? They want about $500 for it > which isn't bad but it ain't as good as some other people have gotten. > > It's a 97 with almost 20K miles on the odo. > > Going to settle with Progressive tomorrow so load me up with ammo!! > > dat brooklyn bum (one gets stolen, one gets totalled...and I'm not > even Irish!!!) $185 for my A5 (1991). I got a KLR (A2) for a case of beer (missing wheels and speedo). Dunno if progressive cares, considering how f'ing expensive they are here in DC. Z List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/