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[Richard Baker]

I have an A17 with 2600 miles on it. This past weekend I rode out to the Catskills from Boston and back. About 400 mi round trip. I noticed that my bike seems to be consuming some oil (about a half quart). There is also black carbon all over the right side rear fender. Is this oil consumption normal for such a new bike or have I got a potential ring problem already? I did follow the break-in recommendations and kept the revs below 4k, and only ran dino 10/40 oil in it. The bike has been consuming oil since I got it. Each oil change (two now) has been slightly less than 2.5 quarts... more like 2 with the filter. I hoped it would go away as the rings broke in, but it seems to be the same rate. Any ideas? Also, where would the carbon be coming from? I did the pilot screw mod and it's currently at 2.5 turns which seems OK. -Rickster

[dooden]

Heya Richard.. Yes and Yes My bike has less miles and burned oil like that when I did alot of highway miles at 5000+ RPM (14t front), I figure its the nature of the beast being a large single piston thumper. (Keep it full thats all) Soot / carbon is a by product of having the muffler vent right next the the plastic fender.. Kinda dumb hey ? I now have a different pipe and it has a down spout, so carbon seems to have gone. Others have talked about there bike burning oil when on the highway alot, or running the snot outta them. I know I will never have a high milage KLR since most of my riding is in town and off pavement, but do not mind adding oil after riding it hard. Rather have it burn some oil than burn a piston.. just my take on it. Dooden

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Richard Baker" wrote: > I have an A17 with 2600 miles on it. This past weekend I rode out to the > Catskills from Boston and back. About 400 mi round trip. I noticed that my > bike seems to be consuming some oil (about a half quart). There is also > black carbon all over the right side rear fender. Is this oil consumption > normal for such a new bike or have I got a potential ring problem already? I > did follow the break-in recommendations and kept the revs below 4k, and only > ran dino 10/40 oil in it. The bike has been consuming oil since I got it. > Each oil change (two now) has been slightly less than 2.5 quarts... more > like 2 with the filter. I hoped it would go away as the rings broke in, but > it seems to be the same rate. Any ideas? > > Also, where would the carbon be coming from? I did the pilot screw mod and > it's currently at 2.5 turns which seems OK. > > -Rickster

[Allan Patton]

>>> Is this oil consumption normal for such a new bike or have I got a

potential ring problem already? Rickster, Dooden says yes, I say no to the oil consumption. Just my take on it. At 50,000 miles, I noticed my A14 using a little oil. About 1/2 pint in 3,000 miles. I had been ridding the snot out of it in July. One day, I rode it WOT into the wind for 100 miles when it was 106 degrees. Oil consumption went back down after the weather cooled down. BTW, the battery was almost dry in that 3,000 miles. Another time I could see it use any oil was the trip to Alaska. Added 1/2 pint in Anchorage, and it could have used another 1/2 pint when I got home. One pint (half quart) on that oil change (11,000 miles). It could be rings, but I'd check out the breather before I went after the rings. If the breather is not working correctly, it could put excess oil into the air cleaner. Allan

[RM]

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[Richard Baker]

Well Dooden.... that does make me feel a little better. Thank you. If it's normal that she burns a little oil at hi-revs, I can live with that. -Rickster

----- Original Message ----- From: "dooden" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: KLR with an appetite for oil > Heya Richard.. > > Yes and Yes > > My bike has less miles and burned oil like that when I did alot of > highway miles at 5000+ RPM (14t front), I figure its the nature of the > beast being a large single piston thumper. (Keep it full thats all) > > Soot / carbon is a by product of having the muffler vent right next > the the plastic fender.. Kinda dumb hey ? I now have a different pipe > and it has a down spout, so carbon seems to have gone. > > Others have talked about there bike burning oil when on the highway > alot, or running the snot outta them. I know I will never have a high > milage KLR since most of my riding is in town and off pavement, but do > not mind adding oil after riding it hard. Rather have it burn some > oil than burn a piston.. > > just my take on it. > > Dooden > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Richard Baker" wrote: > > I have an A17 with 2600 miles on it. This past weekend I rode out > to the > > Catskills from Boston and back. About 400 mi round trip. I noticed > that my > > bike seems to be consuming some oil (about a half quart). There is also > > black carbon all over the right side rear fender. Is this oil > consumption > > normal for such a new bike or have I got a potential ring problem > already? I > > did follow the break-in recommendations and kept the revs below 4k, > and only > > ran dino 10/40 oil in it. The bike has been consuming oil since I > got it. > > Each oil change (two now) has been slightly less than 2.5 quarts... more > > like 2 with the filter. I hoped it would go away as the rings broke > in, but > > it seems to be the same rate. Any ideas? > > > > Also, where would the carbon be coming from? I did the pilot screw > mod and > > it's currently at 2.5 turns which seems OK. > > > > -Rickster > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Richard Baker]

D'oh, just when I was feeling a little better about it... I'll check the breather, that's a great suggestion. I suppose if it keeps up, I'll try and get some warranty service to fix it... rings are covered under warranty right? Thanks, Allen. -Rickster BTW, Allen, how did you break-in your bike? conservatively or not-so-conservatively?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Patton" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] KLR with an appetite for oil > >>> Is this oil consumption normal for such a new bike or have I got a > potential ring problem already? > > Rickster, > > Dooden says yes, I say no to the oil consumption. Just my take on it. At > 50,000 miles, I noticed my A14 using a little oil. About 1/2 pint in 3,000 > miles. I had been ridding the snot out of it in July. One day, I rode it WOT > into the wind for 100 miles when it was 106 degrees. Oil consumption went > back down after the weather cooled down. BTW, the battery was almost dry in > that 3,000 miles. Another time I could see it use any oil was the trip to > Alaska. Added 1/2 pint in Anchorage, and it could have used another 1/2 pint > when I got home. One pint (half quart) on that oil change (11,000 miles). > > It could be rings, but I'd check out the breather before I went after the > rings. If the breather is not working correctly, it could put excess oil > into the air cleaner. > > Allan > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Allan Patton]

> BTW, Allen, how did you break-in your bike? conservatively or > not-so-conservatively? >

Conservatively, very conservatively, or at least I think so. It took all the self control I had to keep it at 4,000 rpm or less. Bought it in March, so the weather was cool. 200 miles the first week, then rode it to Bartlesville OK for a rally, about 250 miles. At 400 miles on the bike, I started running about 4,500. Just couldn't help myself. This bike has seen many miles at 5,000 rpm, but has never been over 7,000 rpm. I'm a real believer in observing the redline. Switched to synthetic oil at 9,000 miles. Allan A14