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[TM1669@cs.com]

After a few hours of frustration I decided to have my new Metzeler mounted/balanced at a shop. When I got it back there were 3 lead balancing weights on 3 different spokes. It really seems like a lot of weight (3-4 oz) considering the OEM tire didnt have any weights on it. Did I get a tire abortion from the shop or is this common? When iI spin the tire on the axle in a little tire holding deal the tire consistently stops with the weights in the 4 o' clock position.

[GOKLR650@aol.com]

> After a few hours of frustration I decided to have my new Metzeler > mounted/balanced at a shop. When I got it back there were 3 lead balancing > weights on 3 different spokes. It really seems like a lot of weight (3-4 > oz) > considering the OEM tire didnt have any weights on it. Did I get a tire > abortion from the shop or is this common?

I mount my own tires (I have a bead breaker) and balance them (I have a good static balancer). I often mount Metzelers on whatever I'm riding. I remove all weights before I start. I find that more often than not I end up using about the same weight as before in about the same place. I've not investigated this phenomenon but it's easy to assume it's my wheel/brake rotor(s) etc. that is/are out of balance. In any case, it always works -- even on 150 MPH sport bikes (which I don't own now). Verle Nelson Cedaredge, Colorado '02 KLR650 '02 Buell M2 '69 Rickman Triumph 650 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[GOKLR650@aol.com]

He said:

> After a few hours of frustration I decided to have my new Metzeler > mounted/balanced at a shop. When I got it back there were 3 lead balancing > weights on 3 different spokes. It really seems like a lot of weight (3-4 > oz) > considering the OEM tire didnt have any weights on it. Did I get a tire > abortion from the shop or is this common?

I said: I mount my own tires (I have a bead breaker) and balance them (I have a good static balancer). I often mount Metzelers on whatever I'm riding. I remove all weights before I start. I find that more often than not I end up using about the same weight as before in about the same place. I've not investigated this phenomenon but it's easy to assume it's my wheel/brake rotor(s) etc. that is/are out of balance. In any case, it always works -- even on 150 MPH sport bikes (which I don't own now). I forgot to say: My wheel had no weights with the OEM tire. I replaced it with an inexpensive tire and used at least 3/4 ounce (I can't read the numbers anymore). When I replace this tire with a premium tire, better suited to my riding style (soon, I hope) I won't be surprised if at least a similar amount of weight is required for balance. Verle Nelson Cedaredge, Colorado '02 KLR650 '02 Buell M2 '69 Rickman Triumph 650 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., TM1669@c... wrote:

> After a few hours of frustration I decided to have my new

Metzeler

> mounted/balanced at a shop. When I got it back there were 3

lead balancing

> weights on 3 different spokes. It really seems like a lot of

weight (3-4 oz)

> considering the OEM tire didnt have any weights on it. Did I get

a tire

> abortion from the shop or is this common? When iI spin the

tire on the axle

> in a little tire holding deal the tire consistently stops with the

weights in

> the 4 o' clock position.

It's not balanced.

[Dave Watkins]

Donning my snowshoes here in Calgary, One thing I do when balancing tires is to try to use as little weight as possible. Often, simply rotating the tire on the rim and then checking the balance again will result in a reduction in weights required. Bit of a chore but why not? Regards, Dave Watkins Calgary, Alberta Canada Voice: 1.403.701.5746 Fax: 1.403.266.0626 E-mail: dave@... WWW: http://www.davewatkins.net 1995 KLR650 "The Prodigal Son" (came home 4 years after it was stolen) NO DISCLAIMERS: I SAID IT, I MEANT IT, I STAND BEHIND IT .

[BobH619@aol.com]

In a message dated 10/25/02 6:26:54 PM, GOKLR650@... writes: << I mount my own tires (I have a bead breaker) and balance them (I have a good static balancer). I often mount Metzelers on whatever I'm riding. I remove all weights before I start. I find that more often than not I end up using a >> Hi Verle: I recently installed two tires on my KLR by using a C clamp as a bead breaker. I would like to upgrade a tad and was wondering what you might be using to break beads. I have considered the Harbor Freight setup but I really am trying to keep my garage as uncluttered as possible so I will probably opt for something a little smaller. Bob Hancock El Cajon

[RM]

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 BobH619@... wrote:

>breaker. I would like to upgrade a tad and was wondering what you might >be using to break beads. I have considered the Harbor Freight setup but I >really am trying to keep my garage as uncluttered as possible so I will >probably opt for something a little smaller.

Well, it ain't smaller, but I use a 6" bench-vise. It's pretty handy to have around for all sorts of odd jobs..

[Brad]

I believe I saw this at webbikeworld.com, lots of interesting stuff there. Mount the end of a 2x4 to the wall with a hinge so it can pivot up or down on the vertical, in roughly the middle put another 2x4 also on a hinge so when the 1st is down in the horizontal position, the middle one will point straight down to the floor. Making a "T" as seen from the side, the leg of the "T" is used to break the bead. The longer the easier the effort. Put a blunt tip on this one. The height mounted on the wall and length of each depends on far from the floor you will place the wheel to have the bead broken. But you now have a lever with 2 pivot points which will allow to move the point to the proper place on the wheel and if the hinges are placed correctly it will fold up against the wall out of the way until needed. IMO a cheap and excellent idea. Brad

> Hi Verle: > I recently installed two tires on my KLR by using a C clamp as a

bead

> breaker. I would like to upgrade a tad and was wondering what you

might be

> using to break beads. I have considered the Harbor Freight setup

but I really

> am trying to keep my garage as uncluttered as possible so I will

probably opt

> for something a little smaller. > Bob Hancock > El Cajon

[dooden]

Ya.. like pressing bushings in and out of the brake lever stays.. Dooden

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., RM wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 BobH619@a... wrote: > > >breaker. I would like to upgrade a tad and was wondering what you might > >be using to break beads. I have considered the Harbor Freight setup but I > >really am trying to keep my garage as uncluttered as possible so I will > >probably opt for something a little smaller. > > Well, it ain't smaller, but I use a 6" bench-vise. It's pretty handy to > have around for all sorts of odd jobs..

[dooden]

So you are saying, jumping up and down on it is a bad thing ??? Oh No... Dooden

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Brad" wrote: > I believe I saw this at webbikeworld.com, lots of interesting stuff > there. > > Mount the end of a 2x4 to the wall with a hinge so it can pivot up or > down on the vertical, in roughly the middle put another 2x4 also on a > hinge so when the 1st is down in the horizontal position, the middle > one will point straight down to the floor. Making a "T" as seen from > the side, the leg of the "T" is used to break the bead. The longer > the easier the effort. > > Put a blunt tip on this one. The height mounted on the wall and > length of each depends on far from the floor you will place the wheel > to have the bead broken. But you now have a lever with 2 pivot points > which will allow to move the point to the proper place on the wheel > and if the hinges are placed correctly it will fold up against the > wall out of the way until needed. > > IMO a cheap and excellent idea. > > Brad > > > > Hi Verle: > > I recently installed two tires on my KLR by using a C clamp as a > bead > > breaker. I would like to upgrade a tad and was wondering what you > might be > > using to break beads. I have considered the Harbor Freight setup > but I really > > am trying to keep my garage as uncluttered as possible so I will > probably opt > > for something a little smaller. > > Bob Hancock > > El Cajon