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[Conall O'Brien]

http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/mayday.html The true story about Labor Day-May 1st. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

[gwtompkins]

Thanks Conall, for the historical enlightenment! GT Worker, Retired AF. -- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Conall O'Brien" wrote:

> > > http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/mayday.html > > The true story about Labor Day-May 1st. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:

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[bradmorris64]

Anarchists unite!!! Oh...wait...then it won't be anarchy any more. After reading that piece, I can envision Lenin riding into town on his red KLR to lead us into worker's uptopia. No thanks. Brad J. Morris A16 "1 Putt" Illinois

> http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/mayday.html > > The true story about Labor Day-May 1st.

[George Basinet]

John Lenin rides a KLR? God, I love the Beetles. Oh, Lucy in the Sky with Singles George Escondido, CA bradmorris64 wrote:

>Anarchists unite!!! Oh...wait...then it won't be anarchy any more. > >After reading that piece, I can envision Lenin riding into town on his >red KLR to lead us into worker's uptopia. > >No thanks. > >Brad J. Morris >A16 "1 Putt" >Illinois > > >>http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/mayday.html >> >>The true story about Labor Day-May 1st. >> > > > >Checkout Dual Sport News at >http://www.dualsportnews.com >Be part of the Adventure! > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[RM]

On Wed, 1 May 2002, gwtompkins wrote:

>Thanks Conall, for the historical enlightenment! >>http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/mayday.html >>The true story about Labor Day-May 1st.

"By covering up the history of May Day, the state, business, mainstream unions and the media have covered up an entire legacy of dissent in this country. They are terrified of what a similarly militant and organized movement could accomplish today, and they suppress the seeds of such organization whenever and wherever they can." A "similarly militant" organized movement would never happen in this day and age. Generally speaking, we're only concerned with getting our own slice of the pie and to hell with society at large.

[bmrbill]

Where was this link when I was writing a paper on anarchy for English 1A? Oh wait, I forgot... Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet. But on a more serious note, a government that fears its citizenry is a government to be feared. Thanks for the reminder. Bill A15

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "gwtompkins" wrote: > Thanks Conall, for the historical enlightenment! > > GT > Worker, Retired AF. > > -- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Conall O'Brien" wrote: > > > > > > http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/mayday.html > > > > The true story about Labor Day-May 1st. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.msn.com

[bmrbill]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., RM wrote:

> > On Wed, 1 May 2002, gwtompkins wrote: > > >Thanks Conall, for the historical enlightenment! > > >>http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/mayday.html > > >>The true story about Labor Day-May 1st. > > "By covering up the history of May Day, the state, business,

mainstream

> unions and the media have covered up an entire legacy of dissent in

this

> country. They are terrified of what a similarly militant and

organized

> movement could accomplish today, and they suppress the seeds of such > organization whenever and wherever they can." > > A "similarly militant" organized movement would never happen in

this day

> and age. Generally speaking, we're only concerned with getting our

own

> slice of the pie and to hell with society at large.

A "similarly militant" movement of that scale hasn't occurred since Kennedy was in office. (SHH. You're not supposed to know.) Bill A15

[Scott Adams]

Oh a contrar - a government that fears its citizenry is the ONLY goverment of any value to its citizenry. I am truly hoping that you meant to say "a government that DOES NOT fear its citizenry is a government to be feared". -Scott

----- Original Message ----- From: "bmrbill" > But on a more serious note, a government that fears its citizenry is > a government to be feared. Thanks for the reminder. > Bill A15

[bmrbill]

Geez this could get tangled. Where is DeTocqueville now that I finally need him? My point is that the government "should" be willing servants of the people. For the most part, I don't see much evidence of them accepting that role. (Think massive BLM land closures.) In that respect, the government does not fear the people. They don't even take us seriously. On the other hand, fear of uprising is demonstrated by what happened during the Haymarket Square incident. I won't even go into Randy Weaver or Waco. IMHO a fearful government is an oppressive government. The government should have a healthy respect for the people. But fear tends to lead to irrational decisions. Can you tell it's a slow day? I gotta get outta here and go for a ride! Bill A15

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Scott Adams" wrote: > Oh a contrar - a government that fears its citizenry is the ONLY goverment > of any value to its citizenry. > > I am truly hoping that you meant to say "a government that DOES NOT fear its > citizenry is a government to be feared". > > -Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bmrbill" > > But on a more serious note, a government that fears its citizenry is > > a government to be feared. Thanks for the reminder. > > Bill A15

[Ralph Hanson]

bmrbill writes:

>Geez this could get tangled. Where is DeTocqueville now that I >finally need him?

Here? http://www.tocqueville.org/ Ralph