couple questions on chain cleaning/lubricating...

[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

> on the ground. And yes, the time I did drop it on a single track, I > was very glad I had help to get it back up. Being lowered (lowering

Because this seems to have come up a couple times lately, and once off-list, I thought I would spam you all with a tip on picking up a dropped bike: My last bike was a GoldWing, and picking up a tipped-over 'wing was a hot topic on the GWRRA forum. The procedure works the same, except the KLR weighs about 300 pounds, instead of about 800. Stand with your back to the bike, and crouch down with your butt more or less against the saddle. One hand goes on the grab handle of the rack, and the other on the handlebar grip, which is tipped in toward you. Stand "into" the bike, pushing it up and away mostly with the strength of your legs. Hope this saves a back!! Wise men still seek Him... Mark St.Hilaire, Sr A15 HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html KLR650 Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Valve Check & Adjustment Guide: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.html

[RM]

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Mark St.Hilaire, Sr wrote:

>topic on the GWRRA forum. The procedure works the same, except the KLR >weighs about 300 pounds, instead of about 800. Stand with your back to >the bike, and crouch down with your butt more or less against the >saddle. One hand goes on the grab handle of the rack, and the other on >the handlebar grip, which is tipped in toward you. Stand "into" the >bike, pushing it up and away mostly with the strength of your legs.

I have a fairly weak upper body and reasonably strong legs. I have never been able to lift my KLR using this method. I try it each and every time that I drop the bike and I've never had any success. If I press my butt against the saddle the bike slides around instead of lifting. RM

[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

> I have a fairly weak upper body and reasonably strong legs. I have

never

> been able to lift my KLR using this method. I try it each and every

time

> that I drop the bike and I've never had any success. If I press my butt > against the saddle the bike slides around instead of lifting.

You need to do a butt mod. Eat a lot of deep fried food and chocolate, and in no time you'll have a nice big butt that will be perfect for the job... Seriously, I haven't done a good job of explaining the procedure, I guess. You're not really doing much with your rear-end, for this job it's just there to hold your pants up. You're creating, and using, an upward force between your arms and legs, with your backside not doing much more than providing a "click-stop," like on lift tables and such, that prevents the bike from falling back down. Re-reading that, I'm not sure it was any more clear than the first post. This method DOES work quite nicely - I've picked up both my GoldWing, and now my KLR using it. Wise men still seek Him... Mark St.Hilaire, Sr A15 HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html KLR650 Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Valve Check & Adjustment Guide: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.html

[Russell D. Stephan, Sr. Tech Analyst]

At 08:34 PM 12/23/01 -0500, you wrote:

> I have a fairly weak upper body and reasonably strong legs. I have > never been able to lift my KLR using this method. I try it each and every > time that I drop the bike and I've never had any success. If I press my butt > against the saddle the bike slides around instead of lifting. >

Picking up a dropped bike is all technique and zero (well, almost) muscle. Carol Youorski (or Skert to her friends) travels all over the country giving bike pick up demos. Hell, she is in her forties and weighs all of 120 pounds I'm guessing. Although, I've read about her exploits in the past, I finally got to meet her during the 2001 Iron Butt Rally. An amazing woman with more life in her for four or five "normal" people. She finished the Butt. I want to marry her. Of course, it doen't hurt that she has one hell of a tight rear end too. Check out the below URL for helpful bike pick up hints: http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/pickup.html For more about Skert, check out: http://www.pinkribbonrides.com Thanks, *************************************************************************** Russell D. Stephan, Voice: (614) 760-3065 Senior Technical Analyst Fax: (614) 760-3360 Technology Management Consulting, Inc. email: rstephan@... 9980 Brewster Lane, Suite A. russell.stephan@... Powell, Ohio 43065 URL: http://www.tmconsult.com

[J. Gregory]

I too have chased mine trying to lift it until I learned to tie a chord or strap around the front brake locking the wheel so that it can't roll away from me I also make sure it is in gear . Jim Arkansas

----- Original Message ----- From: "RM" Cc: "1 - KLR650 List" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Picking up a dropped bike... > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Mark St.Hilaire, Sr wrote: > > >topic on the GWRRA forum. The procedure works the same, except the KLR > >weighs about 300 pounds, instead of about 800. Stand with your back to > >the bike, and crouch down with your butt more or less against the > >saddle. One hand goes on the grab handle of the rack, and the other on > >the handlebar grip, which is tipped in toward you. Stand "into" the > >bike, pushing it up and away mostly with the strength of your legs. > > I have a fairly weak upper body and reasonably strong legs. I have never > been able to lift my KLR using this method. I try it each and every time > that I drop the bike and I've never had any success. If I press my butt > against the saddle the bike slides around instead of lifting. > > RM > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[gregpaul]

A Great New Method............... "NEVER DROP IT" ;-P))))) Greg in Dallas

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "J. Gregory" wrote: > I too have chased mine trying to lift it until I learned to tie a chord or > strap around the front brake locking the wheel so that it can't roll away > from me I also make sure it is in gear . > Jim > Arkansas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RM" > Cc: "1 - KLR650 List" > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 7:13 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Picking up a dropped bike... > > > > > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Mark St.Hilaire, Sr wrote: > > > > >topic on the GWRRA forum. The procedure works the same, except the KLR > > >weighs about 300 pounds, instead of about 800. Stand with your back to > > >the bike, and crouch down with your butt more or less against the > > >saddle. One hand goes on the grab handle of the rack, and the other on > > >the handlebar grip, which is tipped in toward you. Stand "into" the > > >bike, pushing it up and away mostly with the strength of your legs. > > > > I have a fairly weak upper body and reasonably strong legs. I have never > > been able to lift my KLR using this method. I try it each and every time > > that I drop the bike and I've never had any success. If I press my butt > > against the saddle the bike slides around instead of lifting. > > > > RM > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > >

[Ronald Wells]

The "secret" is to have the front wheel turned toward you, not away! this prevents the bike from rolling away as you lift! -- --- Ronald Wells

> From: "J. Gregory" > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:08:05 -0600 > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Picking up a dropped bike... > > I too have chased mine trying to lift it until I learned to tie a chord or > strap around the front brake locking the wheel so that it can't roll away > from me I also make sure it is in gear . > Jim > Arkansas > >

[taffrail@bellsouth.net]

> Because this seems to have come up a couple times lately, and once > off-list, I thought I would spam you all with a tip on picking up a > dropped bike:

Actually I took it for granted that most of you had the MSF riding course. They teach you how to pick up really heavy bikes without help. If you have not taken the course, just that one item would be worth it. taf

[dooden]

I took a MSF course many many moons ago, and they taught us not to drop the bikes. Sorry just could'nt resist that one. My thoughts are if you dont know how to or cant pick up a bike, you have no business riding that model. Just my $.01 cents worth. Duden A15 Pilot

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., wrote: > > Because this seems to have come up a couple times lately, and once > > off-list, I thought I would spam you all with a tip on picking up a > > dropped bike: > > Actually I took it for granted that most of you had the MSF riding course. They teach you how to pick up really heavy bikes without help. If you have not taken the course, just that one item would be worth it. > > taf

[TLrydr@aol.com]

In a message dated 12/25/01 2:44:56 PM EST, dooden@... writes: << Just my $.01 cents worth. >> Gl 1500 SE gold wing 800 and some odd pounds + 150 lbs of gear about 1000 lbs give or take a few lbs, You learn to use your legs, My max squat at the gym is 580 lbs, Mike