1/4" torque wrench...

[PRBKLR@cs.com]

Okay, this is not an attempt at levity, however it is a loaded question. I have about 5,500 miles on my A13 (no I don't get to ride as much as some of you iron butt folks) and am considering switching from Kawa-Chem motorcycle oil to a synthetic like Mobile 1. Any opinions? (another loaded question) My decision is based partly on my riding habits, i.e. riding to work just about every day, however it is a fairly short trip (approx 4 miles). I get in an occasional jaunt off road on some local trails, and lately few and far between some 150+ mile runs on the weekends. Paul Frisco, TX

[Robert J. Kaub]

Paul: Opinions. Indeed. Peanut oil will work. So will Mobil 1. So will everything in between. What it all boils down to is that you use what makes YOU feel better. The bike doesn't care. Thanks. Bob Kaub

[Richard Drain]

Go for it Paul, When I changed I noticed better performance and slightly improved fuel consumption. I also went from 3k changes to 6k changes with no engine problems throughout the life of the bike. As for which Synth to use, we have stor branded synthetic motorcycle oil over here. I could sent you over some but at GBP 27.00 for 5 litres, I guess the answer would be no. Richard D exKLR650 C3 46k . . . . Okay, this is not an attempt at levity, however it is a loaded question. I have about 5,500 miles on my A13 (no I don't get to ride as much as some of you iron butt folks) and am considering switching from Kawa-Chem motorcycle oil to a synthetic like Mobile 1. Any opinions? (another loaded question) My decision is based partly on my riding habits, i.e. riding to work just about every day, however it is a fairly short trip (approx 4 miles). I get in an occasional jaunt off road on some local trails, and lately few and far between some 150+ mile runs on the weekends. Paul Frisco, TX ********************************************************************* This e-mail and the information it contains may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for the intended addressee(s) only. The unauthorised use, disclosure or copying of this e-mail or any information it contains is prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offence. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify postmaster@... immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Tokai Bank Europe plc. Tokai Bank Europe plc 1 Exchange Square London EC2A 2JL Switchboard: 020 7638 6030 This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************* [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[FGJ]

> Okay, this is not an attempt at levity, however it is a loaded question.

I have about 5,500 miles on my A13 (no I don't get to ride as much as some of you iron butt folks) and am considering switching from Kawa-Chem motorcycle oil to a synthetic like Mobile 1. Any opinions? (another loaded question)

> My decision is based partly on my riding habits, i.e. riding to work just

about every day, however it is a fairly short trip (approx 4 miles). I get in an occasional jaunt off road on some local trails, and lately few and far between some 150+ mile runs on the weekends. Paul The KLR being water cooled wouldn't benefit to the same degree an aircooled engine would, but synthetic is considerably more resistant to mechanical shear and varnishing at higher temp than conventional oil, synthetic will actually interefere with break in (seating the rings properly ) in a new bike, it shouldn't be used until the engine is fully broken in. I think using synthetic will reduce wear and tear in general and is cheap insurance. Fred J

[IronJungle@Hotmail.com]

Do it. Make the shift to Mobile1

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., PRBKLR@c... wrote: > Okay, this is not an attempt at levity, however it is a loaded question. I have about 5,500 miles on my A13 (no I don't get to ride as much as some of you iron butt folks) and am considering switching from Kawa-Chem motorcycle oil to a synthetic like Mobile 1. Any opinions? (another loaded question) > My decision is based partly on my riding habits, i.e. riding to work just about every day, however it is a fairly short trip (approx 4 miles). I get in an occasional jaunt off road on some local trails, and lately few and far between some 150+ mile runs on the weekends. > > Paul > Frisco, TX

[Peter Dahlheimer, MD]

i'm glad somebody else said that. i've no further intention of adding to this thread (search the archives and find how much in-depth analysis it's gotten already) except to basically agree with this statement. i'd probably disagree if the bike was made to last a few hundred thousand miles...

> -----Original Message----- > From: Robert J. Kaub [mailto:rkaub@...] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 7:01 AM > To: PRBKLR@... > Cc: KLR > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Synthetic Oil...Really! > > > Paul: > Opinions. Indeed. > Peanut oil will work. > So will Mobil 1. > So will everything in between. > What it all boils down to is that you use what makes YOU feel better. The > bike doesn't care. > Thanks. > Bob Kaub > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

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[FGJ]

> i'm glad somebody else said that. i've no further intention of adding to > this thread (search the archives and find how much in-depth analysis it's > gotten already) except to basically agree with this statement. i'd

probably

> disagree if the bike was made to last a few hundred thousand miles...

Have you tried bringing up the archives lately ? Fred J

[david.smith@semflex.com]

How many miles is the break in period. So the question is when is it safe to switch to synthetic.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "FGJ" wrote: > > > > Okay, this is not an attempt at levity, however it is a loaded question. > I have about 5,500 miles on my A13 (no I don't get to ride as much as some > of you iron butt folks) and am considering switching from Kawa-Chem > motorcycle oil to a synthetic like Mobile 1. Any opinions? (another loaded > question) > > My decision is based partly on my riding habits, i.e. riding to work just > about every day, however it is a fairly short trip (approx 4 miles). I get > in an occasional jaunt off road on some local trails, and lately few and far > between some 150+ mile runs on the weekends. > Paul > > The KLR being water cooled wouldn't benefit to the same degree an > aircooled engine > would, but synthetic is considerably more resistant to mechanical shear and > varnishing at higher temp than conventional oil, synthetic will actually > interefere with break in (seating the rings properly ) in a new bike, it > shouldn't be used until the engine is fully broken in. I > think using synthetic will reduce wear and tear in general and is cheap > insurance. > Fred J

[Richard Drain]

Bags i first... 500 miles Richard d -----Original Message----- From: david.smith@... [mailto:david.smith@...] Sent: 28 September 2001 17:23 To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Synthetic Oil...Really! How many miles is the break in period. So the question is when is it safe to switch to synthetic. ********************************************************************* This e-mail and the information it contains may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for the intended addressee(s) only. The unauthorised use, disclosure or copying of this e-mail or any information it contains is prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offence. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify postmaster@... immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Tokai Bank Europe plc. Tokai Bank Europe plc 1 Exchange Square London EC2A 2JL Switchboard: 020 7638 6030 This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************* [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Richard Drain]

Mild you...in the manual it dont say if that is US, English or nautical miles! Richard D Bags i first... 500 miles Richard d -----Original Message----- From: david.smith@... [mailto:david.smith@...] Sent: 28 September 2001 17:23 To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Synthetic Oil...Really! How many miles is the break in period. So the question is when is it safe to switch to synthetic. ********************************************************************* This e-mail and the information it contains may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for the intended addressee(s) only. The unauthorised use, disclosure or copying of this e-mail or any information it contains is prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offence. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify postmaster@... immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Tokai Bank Europe plc. Tokai Bank Europe plc 1 Exchange Square London EC2A 2JL Switchboard: 020 7638 6030 This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************* [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]