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environmental rant (nklr?)

Post by pudens@telepath.com » Sat Mar 31, 2001 8:20 am

Don't hit send... don't do it... don't hit that dern button... they dont want to read this... DONT! Alright guys, and the late Jennifer (girl of my dreams). This old world has been rotating and spinning around the sun for quite some time. When we say man made polution what we are referring to is stuff that was here when we got here. Oh we have refined it and changed it some, but IT was here long before we were. The fuel your bike runs on, the plastic and rubber parts, the steel and aluminum have been here affecting the environment for a long long time. When Mt. Pinatubo erupted it dumped more polutants into the world environment than all industrial and vehicle emmissions AND aerosols AND hydrochlorocarbons (freon) that have been produced since the industrial revolution. Including 20 to 30 megatons of sulphur dioxide and aerosols. The eruption of this volcano produced a large number of micrometer-sized droplets (aerosols) of sulfuric acid which were thrown into the stratosphere. These particles eventually spread out over the globe. The very small droplets blocked energy coming from the Sun, the result was that the Earth cooled off a little with about a half degree centigrade. These volcanic droplets had also got some other side effects, the particles catalyzed heterogeneous reactions that were probably the cause of unusually low ozone levels. The particles were also the indirect cause of the destroying of part of the sea-nature in the Gulf of Akaba (180km long, 25km wide, 1.8km deep) because the droplets encouraged the growth of alga (which is very harmful to the sea-nature). Emanations of gas can cause immediate loss of life, 142 people were killed by carbon dioxide from the Deng Plateau in Java. that's alot of gas. Point being, dont get your panties in a wad. Yes, we need to have clean water to drink and clean air to breathe. We have that... will continue to have it if we use our heads a little. But, lets not over react as we did with the refrigerant scandal a few years ago... Did you know for instance that the replacement for R-12 & R-22 is carcinoginic? It is not as readily broken down by sunlight as R-12 or R-22. Hmmm. THE SKY IS NOT FALLING, But the ecoweenies are closing off our land and resources because they are afraid it is... Tropical forests, because of the decaying vegetation on the forest floor use more oxygen than they produce. A field of grass does a better job than a forest in that regards. For those of you that live in LA and see the air you breathe... the reason you do is more a factor of geography than anything. When you fart in LA it has no where to go. It is trapped by the mountains, prevailing winds from the coast and you are stuck having no way for it to disapate... it eventually falls to the ground, but you guys put it up faster than it can fall out, because of your geography and population density. The Kyoto agreement is fine, let the Japanese and Europeans work towards keeping it up. Until all countries enforce it including china it won't have any affect. Except on our economy. And when the next big Volcano errupts, it will not have mattered anyhow. This old world is going to survive us. It is rugged, it is hardy, it will be a great place to live long after we quit. If you have read this far, I aplogize for the length but not the content. Let's get back to bikes. Larry

Dan Oaks
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environmental rant (nklr?)

Post by Dan Oaks » Sat Mar 31, 2001 8:55 am

After reading your dissertation, I have come to the conclusion that it is imperative that we all get behind an initiative to pass legislation against farting in LA. Considering that it is against the law to smoke, eat, drink, weed whack, broil, drive ride, climb, fall, or otherwise have fun or accomplish anything in CA, I find it outrageous that we have overlooked this devastating contributor to the demise of the breathable atmosphere in LA and the innocent folks downwind in Phoenix. Let's all get together and contact our favorite BMW driving politician in CA. (I cleaned that one up) By the way, I'd like to thank all you environmentalists in CA for constructing even more clean electricity generating windmills outside Palm Springs and selling it all cheap to us folks in the East, even while you suffer rolling blackouts and sky-rocketing power costs. Real nice of you! I'm sure you have a plan, even though it eludes the rest of us. Just continue to sit in the dark out there and rant against power plants in your neighborhood, and eventually it'll dawn on you. -- bierdo pudens@... wrote:
> Don't hit send... don't do it... don't hit that dern button... they > dont want to read this... DONT! > > Alright guys, and the late Jennifer (girl of my dreams). This old > world has been rotating and spinning around the sun for quite some > time. When we say man made polution what we are referring to is stuff > that was here when we got here. Oh we have refined it and changed it > some, but IT was here long before we were. The fuel your bike runs > on, the plastic and rubber parts, the steel and aluminum have been > here affecting the environment for a long long time. > > When Mt. Pinatubo erupted it dumped more polutants into the world > environment than all industrial and vehicle emmissions AND aerosols > AND hydrochlorocarbons (freon) that have been produced since the > industrial revolution. Including 20 to 30 megatons of sulphur dioxide > and aerosols. The eruption of this volcano produced a large number of > micrometer-sized droplets (aerosols) of sulfuric acid which were > thrown into the stratosphere. These particles eventually spread out > over the globe. The very small droplets blocked energy coming from > the Sun, the result was that the Earth cooled off a little with about > a half degree centigrade. These volcanic droplets had also got some > other side effects, the particles catalyzed heterogeneous reactions > that were probably the cause of unusually low ozone levels. > The particles were also the indirect cause of the destroying of > part of the sea-nature in the Gulf of Akaba (180km long, 25km wide, > 1.8km deep) because the droplets encouraged the growth of alga (which > is very harmful to the sea-nature). Emanations of gas can cause > immediate loss of life, 142 people were killed by carbon dioxide from > the Deng Plateau in Java. that's alot of gas. > > Point being, dont get your panties in a wad. > > Yes, we need to have clean water to drink and clean air to breathe. > We have that... will continue to have it if we use our heads a > little. But, lets not over react as we did with the refrigerant > scandal a few years ago... Did you know for instance that the > replacement for R-12 & R-22 is carcinoginic? It is not as readily > broken down by sunlight as R-12 or R-22. Hmmm. > > THE SKY IS NOT FALLING, But the ecoweenies are closing off our land > and resources because they are afraid it is... Tropical forests, > because of the decaying vegetation on the forest floor use more > oxygen than they produce. A field of grass does a better job than a > forest in that regards. > For those of you that live in LA and see the air you breathe... the > reason you do is more a factor of geography than anything. When you > fart in LA it has no where to go. It is trapped by the mountains, > prevailing winds from the coast and you are stuck having no way for > it to disapate... it eventually falls to the ground, but you guys put > it up faster than it can fall out, because of your geography and > population density. > > The Kyoto agreement is fine, let the Japanese and Europeans work > towards keeping it up. Until all countries enforce it including china > it won't have any affect. Except on our economy. And when the next > big Volcano errupts, it will not have mattered anyhow. This old world > is going to survive us. It is rugged, it is hardy, it will be a great > place to live long after we quit. > > If you have read this far, I aplogize for the length but not the > content. Let's get back to bikes. > Larry > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Swede
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environmental rant (nklr?)

Post by Swede » Sat Mar 31, 2001 10:26 am

Hallelujah and Amen, brother!! "Swede"
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., pudens@t... wrote: > Alright guys, and the late Jennifer (girl of my dreams). This old > world has been rotating and spinning around the sun for quite some > time. When we say man made polution what we are referring to is stuff > that was here when we got here. Oh we have refined it and changed it > some, but IT was here long before we were. The fuel your bike runs > on, the plastic and rubber parts, the steel and aluminum have been > here affecting the environment for a long long time. > > Point being, dont get your panties in a wad. > > This old world > is going to survive us. It is rugged, it is hardy, it will be a great > place to live long after we quit. > > If you have read this far, I aplogize for the length but not the > content. Let's get back to bikes. > Larry

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environmental rant (nklr?)

Post by Swede » Sat Mar 31, 2001 10:35 am

It's all fun and game 'til someone can't have their cappuccino or latte from Starbucks' industrial size electric coffee maker. "Swede" --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Dan Oaks wrote: > By the way, I'd like to thank all you environmentalists in CA for > constructing even more clean electricity generating windmills outside Palm > Springs and selling it all cheap to us folks in the East, even while you > suffer rolling blackouts and sky-rocketing power costs. Real nice of you! > I'm sure you have a plan, even though it eludes the rest of us. Just > continue to sit in the dark out there and rant against power plants in your > neighborhood, and eventually it'll dawn on you. > > -- > bierdo