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jirvine@nmsu.edu
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new exhaust system??

Post by jirvine@nmsu.edu » Sat Dec 30, 2000 9:01 pm

I believe someone had talked about a new exhaust being developed?? Any update on it's status? Big Gun seems too loud from what others have said, suppertrapp seems the choice but some report problems, Cobra quality is shaky. I's like to put a decent pipe on in a couple months. Lew did you say you had a Yosh? JI NM

punkynsquirt@cs.com
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new exhaust system??

Post by punkynsquirt@cs.com » Sat Dec 30, 2000 10:06 pm

Hi JI: Yes, the previous owner had a Yosh and stage 1 DynoJet installed on the A14 I just bought. Somebody else asked for identifying info on the Yosh. I will look tomorrow. The bike is being stored 15 miles away at the dealership where I bought it. I just sent a message to Tim Bernard asking if he can advise and/or supply me with whatever spacers/mods are required to mount the right side SU rack and aluminum pannier around the Yosh pipe. His standard hardware is meant for use with a stock pipe. BTW, I'm going to sign up with Kawi's Good Times Owner's Club and for the MSF course ($175 for beginner and $95 for experienced rider with his own bike). Santa made a late call here today. Fireball came bearing gifts, a TourMaster tank bag, spare tire tubes, a UFO fender, a camping clothesline and more Alaska/Canada info. Brand new stuff, not used. He didn! 't gift wrap it though. What a guy. He's the only member of the list that I have met so far. Hope that changes soon. I have Tim's fork brace to install, but for now the bike is here and the brace and the rest of the gear and mods are in Tallahassee. The picture of the installed fork brace on Tim's website looks to me like the location of the brace would interfere with the installation of the low UFO fender. Anybody know about this? Later. [b]PS - The Y2K KLR650, "Critter," is here. Final preparations will begin for our May 1, departure. Hope to see you somewhere along the way. [/b]Happy[i] [/i]New Year! Punky & Lew Waterman Punky & Lew's Americas Motopaseo Greenacres, Florida

Fred Hink
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new exhaust system??

Post by Fred Hink » Sun Dec 31, 2000 6:44 am

[b]You won't be able to run the fender brace and the UFO fender at the same time.[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Fred[/b] [b][/b]   
----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] punkynsquirt@... [b]To:[/b] jirvine@... ; dsn_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, December 30, 2000 8:05 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_klr650] New Exhaust System?? The picture of the installed fork brace on Tim's website looks to me like the location of the brace would interfere with the installation of the low UFO fender. Anybody know about this?

Dennis M. Griffin
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new exhaust system??

Post by Dennis M. Griffin » Sun Dec 31, 2000 11:03 am

on 12/31/00 8:52 AM, jirvine@... at jirvine@... wrote:
> Hi Dennis, tell me more. I also see you're in phoenix, just down the > street as I am in Las Cruces, NM, get over there once in awhile. > > Is the quiet core a standard part and is there an option for a quieter > system? And the spark arrestor is an add on right? Where did you get > yours? I'm not sure I want to change carbs, I have a high altitude Dyno > Jet kit sitting here and need the exhaust and air box mods to go with it. >
Yes, it is now available as a standard item, and it is the quietest. It is a perforated tube with some half moon discs intruding into the thru diameter to serve as mechanical baffling. It works with the new spark arrestor, which is a very nicely machined and polished end cap and turndown tip; it simply has a fine screen built into it, not a mechanical baffle. I bought my system directly from BigGun because I was working with Paul there to get the quietest system possible. I bought what was the existing quietest system, with the new core and tip to follow as soon as released. Now that it is readily available, Fred should be able to get it. Most everything else that I have purchased for my A14 has come from Fred (~ $2,000). This system can go on and improve a bone stock bike, but the benefits of anything further you do will be further enhanced by having this system. So jetting or air box mods, and/or carb replacement, will be good, but the improvement will be considerably better with this system. I suspect these breathing benefits might rise exponentially with altitude. You may find that this system, with a few airbox holes and the correct jetting, gives you all you want without changing carbs. But if you decide to go with a carb, the WB Mikuni kit goes in fairly easily. I installed my Mik at the same time as the Progressive 420 rear shock with Larry Roesler spring, so I had released the rear triangle upper bolts, allowing it and the airbox to pivot down and away. This makes the carb install a no brainer. Jetting, needle and cable changes are fairly easily accomplished with this setup. My only complaint with the WB carb kit is that it came with a Motion Pro bright finish, pot metal die cast throttle, which works, but isn't very desireable, IMO. I will be installing a Magura 314 throttle with an appropriate (but 4" shorter) Terry cable. The WB Mik kit comes with a Terry cable, but it's the wrong free pull length for the Magura. The gent who makes the cables at Terry has been great to work with to get the right stuff. An added benefit of the intake/exhaust mods I have done is that under conditions where the temp gauge was pointing toward 12 o'clock before, now it is pointing toward about 10:30. Definitely running cooler, and that's important to me here in the SW desert. And the improvement in throttle response and grunt factor (low & mid range torque) are especially welcome for working traffic (and being a bit of a Holligan, at times). A bit to my surprise, the improved throttle response of the direct pull Mikuni didn't adversly affect off idle, low speed maneuverability, as I thought it might. Full lock, both feet on pegs turns and other such tight maneuvers are still easily done. Only problem with all this is that now that it goes so good, it needs to have better braking. So I guess I'm going to have to do the MAP Engineering front rotor. Have already done the stainless line and Dunlop pads on the rear. And while the stock tires work reasonably well on the street, I would like something a little more street oriented. So, bottom line is that, IMHO, the BigGun exhaust system is the first performance enhancing mod that should be done. I'll try to post some pictures soon, so all can see how nice it looks installed. I trashed your original message after replying, without taking notice of your name, so I only know you as jirvine, so, jirvine, maybe we can meet in the spring on the Coronado Trail along the AZ/NM border. I've been wanting to get back over that way for some camping and sightseeing. Still need to figure a way to take my 12# dog with me aboard the KLR. Happy Holidays to all, Dennis A14 in Scottsdale, AZ

Fred Hink
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new exhaust system??

Post by Fred Hink » Sun Dec 31, 2000 11:27 am

[b]Hi Dennis,[/b] [b][/b]  [b]I have been in touch with Mapp Engineering about the oversized rotors.  They have been out of stock for many months but do now have them.  As soon as they get back from their holiday vacation, I will have them available in my shop.  If you want one, let me know.  Glad you liked all the rest of the stuff you got from me.[/b]   [b]Happy New Year![/b]   [b]Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com '00 VFR800FI '00 XR650R (2)'94 XR650L 4 sale '94 XR250L 4 sale (300 mi) '78 Z1-R 4 sale[/b]    
----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] EagleEye@... [b]To:[/b] jirvine@... [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, December 31, 2000 9:01 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_klr650] New Exhaust System?? Only problem with all this is that now that it goes so good, it needs to have better braking. So I guess I'm going to have to do the MAP Engineering front rotor. Have already done the stainless line and Dunlop pads on the rear. And while the stock tires work reasonably well on the street, I would like something a little more street oriented.

Ted Palmer
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copper washers?help!

Post by Ted Palmer » Sun Dec 31, 2000 12:02 pm

grandeal@... wrote: [...]
> To my surprise I went to check my balancer and found 2 copper > washers sitting close to eachother in the small area behind The > cylinder and infront of the started motor.
[...] Sounds to me like they came from the end of the oil pipe to the head. Mister_T

Dennis M. Griffin
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new exhaust system??

Post by Dennis M. Griffin » Sun Dec 31, 2000 12:08 pm

on 12/31/00 12:52 PM, Ron Criswell at ron.criswell@... wrote:
> Can I add the spark arrestor to my existing Big Gun and will it affect > jetting? > > Criswell >
If it is the same oval cannister as current production, then yes, but you would have to talk to them as far as which cores work with it. I only know that the newest quiet core does. Shouldn't effect jetting. Good luck, Dennis A14 in Scottsdale, AZ

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