[dsn_klr650] rocinante.

[Tom Vervaeke]

Hello: I'm a street rider getting into dual sporting. Therefore I don't have the appropriate footwear. I've now tried both regular hiking boots (not enough protection) and some old Army style boots (tall, but not enough protection) and need something better ASAP. Stopped by the local dealer today. For offroading they seem to have 2 styles: MX boots and Trials boots. The MX boots seem a bit of overkill for dualsporting. They are very tall, heavy, have 4-5 buckles, and the inside "storm flap" doesn't come up very high which means in a water crossing of more than 4-5" water is going to come in. Also hard to walk around for sure but do have lots of foot and ankle protection. Trials boots seem just a bit of under-kill. A little shorter in height than MX boots. All leather and not too much plastic. Most don't have the metal toe guards. Most have 3 buckles on the sides which I like. All of them have the "storm flap" which goes all the way up the inside of the boot which looks to mean I could stand in 12-15" of water and not get water in the boot. Much easier to walk around but not as much protection on boot and ankles. Without getting into all the various models, what do most of you wear when out riding in the rocks/dirt/etc..? I need to protect my feet better before I break something. I'm guessing I'd rather go for a boot that's a bit more comfortable to walk in at the expense of protection. So, am currently leaning towards the trials boots. Price for good models of their style is in the $125-250 range. Any advice is welcome. tom A13 ===== ========================================================= Tom Vervaeke, Colorado, USA |Email: tom_vervaeke@... '99 Kawi KLR-650 A13, 3.1K |Ph: 719-495-2152 (home) '96 BMW R1100GS, Black 60K |Ph: 719-590-2133 (work) Colorado DualSporters Group |Ph: 719-650-4578 (cell/riding) Try: http://www.egroups.com/group/Colorado-Dualsporters ========================================================= __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

[bill e goat]

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, Tom Vervaeke wrote:

> Michael: > > I guess I should have stated that I'd like boots that will quickly > break in. I have several friends that told me that their's took > upwards of 1-2 years before they felt totally "comfy". I'm 44, I > don't have 2 years to wait. I like boots that feel fairly comfy > from the git go.

That's why the Sidis are where it's at. I thought I was nuts buying such an expensive boot, until after the first hour I had worn them. They are super-comfortable, right from the start. Big Boots Bill

[Ed Boyd]

RE: NKLR - Dual Sporting Boots? > Message: 24 >    Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:18:54 -0700 (PDT) >    From: Tom Vervaeke > Subject: RE: NKLR - Dual Sporting Boots? > > Michael: > > I guess I should have stated that I'd like boots that will quickly > break in. I have several friends that told me that their's took > upwards of 1-2 years before they felt totally "comfy". I'm 44, I > don't have 2 years to wait. I like boots that feel fairly comfy > from the git go. > > Tom > > --- "Scherer, Michael" wrote: > > If you aren't afraid to go to $250, Combat touring boots from > > Aerostitch are > > what are on my feet. Tom, I have the Sidi Discovery boot. They're great. Is it ok to say that I think my boots are great? Ok, I'll continue. Excellent protection in the nasty stuff, comfy to wear. Kind of pricey, about $250, got them from http://www.motonation.com/trialzero.cfm . They were pretty comfortable from the git go, but they don't have decent arch support. I took the inserts out of my running shoes and popped em in there, and they feel great now. And they're kind of bright at first, but after a couple of good trail rides all the white parts are pretty well worn into a duller color, can't really describe it, but the boots not as nerdy now. They have a waterproof liner, but I have found that they are not as waterproof as I had hoped, seems no matter how waterproof the boot is, when you dump it in the middle of a stream, your feet are going to get wet, or if you put a foot down into 2 feet of water, its going to get wet. Someone on the list, can't remember who, made a good point about off road boots, they said they would always make sure they had a boot on that they could do a 15-20 mile hike in without shredding their feet in case their bike ever failed and they had to hike out. Not sure if the Discovery boot qualifies, but it did get me thinking. Ed Duvall, WA '96 KLX650R '82 Katana 1000

[John Magee]

I purchased the Sidi Discovery boots this year. I wore them at home for a couple hours and then my first ride was 5-6 hours. They have been comfortable from the beginning. I added my own arch support, as the insole is very flat. They are much softer and more flexible than the average MX boot, but offer a lot more protection than most leather touring type boots. The Aerostitch Combat Touring boot is made be Sidi, but it is a different boot. The Sidi Discovery offers much better protection and still enough flexiblity to walk in. That was one of my considerations as well. I want to be able to wear the boot even if I'm not doing serious off-road stuff. It has 3 quality buckles and a velcro strap at the top. The sole is a lighter colour non-marring type and has tread unlike most MX boots which are very smooth. The disadvantage would be the high speed corners where you might want to slide the boot. On the trail, I have found the extra protection to be a benefit. More than once I have found myself on my side with one of my feet stuck under the weight of my KLR, but no injuries. I've also had large rocks thrown up by my front wheel bounce off my boot (sometimes even knocking my foot off the peg), but again, no injuries. Yes, water will get in, but I've found only when in water deeper than the boot is high. This may be prevented somewhat by tightening the top velcro strap. As for a previous post indicating that they were "bright", mine came in black. The Sidi's are pricey, but so far I'm very happy with them.Check them out at www.motonation.com/trialzero.cfm>

[John Magee]

> involving lots of crashes, most of which ended up with me on my

feet, not

> near the bike. > > mw

I am new to the off road stuff, but I've seen lots of experienced guys get their legs and feet caught under the bike. Mostly it's slower stuff where you lose your balance and can't get the foot out in time. I'm not talking about high speed stuff like you probably do in the Moab. I was just making the point about the Sidi boots having really good protection for the feet.

[John Magee]

Now

> those who have escaped have either 1) six million dollar man

reflexes or 2)

> aren't really riding your KLR's, you all must be dreaming about

them and

> you wake up all dirty. > > Me .... I've saved my paintjob with a bruised ankle/ego a couple

times. I

> use FOX Tracker 2000, BTW, cheap and only comfy enough for riding.

I got

> out of the way once and ended up with a scratched tank and broken

right

> shroud, not anymore, I declare! > > Bravo to you Mark, putting your body first.... > > LaterZ > Dash

I never really thought about that. You're right, by getting my feet stuck under the bike (with my Sidi's on)I have saved my tank and shrouds from major damage. (Managed to beak a mirror mount and bend my bars though) I do RIDE my KLR. As I said in another post earlier tonight, I was out chasing XR's, DRZ's,WR's etc. It is hard work on a KLR, but I did okay for a new off-roader. We're not talking about pavement or back roads. It was single track and atv trails, hardpack and sand and hills made for mountain goats. My KLR is to enjoy riding challenging terrain, not to commute with or sit in the garage polished up. Get out there and get dirty! John Canuk on a KLR

[John Magee]

Now

> those who have escaped have either 1) six million dollar man

reflexes or 2)

> aren't really riding your KLR's, you all must be dreaming about

them and

> you wake up all dirty. > > Me .... I've saved my paintjob with a bruised ankle/ego a couple

times. I

> use FOX Tracker 2000, BTW, cheap and only comfy enough for riding.

I got

> out of the way once and ended up with a scratched tank and broken

right

> shroud, not anymore, I declare! > > Bravo to you Mark, putting your body first.... > > LaterZ > Dash

I never really thought about that. You're right, by getting my feet stuck under the bike (with my Sidi's on)I have saved my tank and shrouds from major damage. (Managed to beak a mirror mount and bend my bars though) I do RIDE my KLR. As I said in another post earlier tonight, I've been out chasing XR's, DRZ's,WR's etc. It is hard work on a KLR, but I did okay for a new off-roader. We're not talking about pavement or back roads. It was single track and atv trails, hardpack and sand and hills made for mountain goats. 200 kms (120 miles) took 8 hours to do. My KLR is to enjoy riding challenging terrain, not to commute with or sit in the garage polished up. Get out there and get dirty! John Canuk on a KLR

[Ric Merry]

I see several of the boots mentioned here on EBay (none in a manly size 12.5-13 though damn it) Combat touring, Sidi, Thor (no 327's), etc Ric Merry 93 KLR 97 Concours Sedro-Woolley WA, "The gateway to the North Cascades"

[John Magee]

> I see several of the boots mentioned here on EBay (none in a manly

size

> 12.5-13 though damn it) > Combat touring, Sidi, Thor (no 327's), etc > > Ric Merry > 93 KLR > 97 Concours > Sedro-Woolley WA, "The gateway to the North Cascades"

I usually wear 13's. My Sidi Discovery's are size 12 and have lots o room, even if I want to wear heavier socks. I also use foot orthotics in them for arch support. John

[Renn]

But once again, we are probably talking about two different things. ------Original Message------ From: "Backroad Bill" To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com Sent: August 26, 2000 3:54:45 AM GMT Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Rocinante.

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, Renn wrote: > HEAR YE, HEAR YE. > In the ancient and grand tradition of "naming things", it has come for the time to christen my ride. This is not a matter that is to be taken lightly and at no time should the process be forced and/or rushed. Having said that. Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, I give you. " ROCINANTE " !!! I believe the Norwegian Dag who is travelling the world on his Tiger has named his machine that long ago. FYI. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com