wrong front sprocket torque results in bad oil leak

[Bryan Burke]

I also have an Arai XD and love it. I mainly got it for the visor combined with full face protection and ventilation. I live in Arizona. The visor keeps the sun out and the flip up face shield is easy to crack open at highway speeds or flip all the way up at slower speeds. It is worth the money, in my opinion. My helmet is silver and seems to stay pretty cool. Between the bright sun and the hot temps where I ride, this helmet is as good as I could hope for. I often ride up to ten hours a day, and the helmet isn't really a bother. As to buffeting, I have a tall aftermarket windscreen. I don't know how the helmet would work with the stock one. I do know that when you turn your head to the side at highway speeds, the visor is very noticible! I haven't worn my HJC full face since I bought the Arai. Bryan Burke Eloy, AZ _________________________________________________________________ See what you re getting into before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507

[Jim Douglas]

Mark Phillips wrote:

> > I just bought a KLR and my first purchase was a helmet. I researched DOT > and Snell standards and decided that Snell (i.e. expensive helmet) wasn't > important to me. I go t a Z1R motocross helmet on ebay for $40+ shipping. > Goggles (Spy) were $35. I don't like the visor. It really catches the > wind. But, airflow is nice (esp on 100 degree days!). I'm going to get a > Shark closeout (full-face) for winter riding with my next paycheck. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

Actually, a few months ago, the Z1R Helmets were rated at the STRONGEST, of the helmets tested, which included the fancy Nolan, Shoei, etc......................

[Robert Waters]

Talking about keeping cool, someone told me about seeing a fellow on a bike who had an ice chest (maybe dry ice) and he had a small fan pumping cool air through a tube right into his helment. Ever see or hear of anything like that? Robert Waters TotalHealth.bz Focus On Truth --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Oldrice]

Ahhhh yes. I remember them well. When they first came out we called them "Parker Pumpers" because we first used them in the Parker 400 off road race back in the late seventies. Well, I think that's why they were called that. Parker Az can get mighty hot. You wouldn't happen to have a brother Roger would you? Oldrice- www.oldrice.com/KLR650.htm

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Waters" Talking about keeping cool, someone told me about seeing a fellow on a bike who had an ice chest (maybe dry ice) and he had a small fan pumping cool air through a tube right into his helment. Ever see or hear of anything like that? Robert Waters

[Jim Douglas]

Robert Waters wrote:

> > Talking about keeping cool, someone told me about seeing a fellow on a > bike who had an ice chest (maybe dry ice) and he had a small fan > pumping cool air through a tube right into his helment. Ever see or > hear of anything like that? > > Robert Waters > > TotalHealth.bz > Focus On Truth > > --------------------------------- > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

I want what Nascar drivers have, some type of AC that goes directly into the helmet. The last helmet I purchased was a $300 HJC FlipUP, and that SOB has little vent holes that do nothing, absolutely nothing! They need to change the design so that there is a small scoop that will grab air and force it into the helmet, the thing they have on this model does nothing, even the one on the chin! Next time I have a few extract $$$, two kids in college now, I am dumping this helmet and getting a MX helmet and goggles, I actually miss the visor from my MX days.......

[Norm Keller]

I rode with a Gold Wing years ago. The guy had a small insulated ice bucket mounted at the front of the right side bag. He had a windshield washer pump wired and the pump pushed water from the ice bucket through small PVC tubing connected to a vest he wore under his jacket. The vest had PVC tubing which provided cooling. He told me that his plan was to fit tubing into his helmet. The reason I was aware of the set-up is that he waved me to stop at a service station in Saskatchewan, where he disconnected the tubing from the jacket. dumped the water from the ice bucket, dumped in a bag of crushed ice, added some water and said. "Let's go." I had to ask...... Never got around to making one but always mean to. Norm

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Waters" Talking about keeping cool, someone told me about seeing a fellow on a bike who had an ice chest (maybe dry ice) and he had a small fan pumping cool air through a tube right into his helmet. Ever see or hear of anything like that? Robert Waters [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Terry Hamrick]

We having a Rube-Goldberg cooling system contest? albatross who keeps cool in a mesh jacket

On 8/16/07, Norm Keller wrote: > > I rode with a Gold Wing years ago. The guy had a small insulated ice > bucket mounted at the front of the right side bag. He had a windshield > washer pump wired and the pump pushed water from the ice bucket through > small PVC tubing connected to a vest he wore under his jacket. The vest had > PVC tubing which provided cooling. He told me that his plan was to fit > tubing into his helmet. > > The reason I was aware of the set-up is that he waved me to stop at a > service station in Saskatchewan, where he disconnected the tubing from the > jacket. dumped the water from the ice bucket, dumped in a bag of crushed > ice, added some water and said. "Let's go." > > I had to ask...... > > Never got around to making one but always mean to. > > Norm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Waters" > > Talking about keeping cool, someone told me about seeing a fellow on a > bike > who had an ice chest (maybe dry ice) and he had a small fan pumping cool > air > through a tube right into his helmet. Ever see or hear of anything like > that? > > Robert Waters > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Robert Waters]

I can't say for sure what caused the problem. I'm just glad they have agreed to fix it. I did notice that the chain was too tight a few days ago, but I did not hit any bumps that would have caused a great strain on the shaft, nevertheless, that could very well have caused the problem. Also, I changed the front sprocket before last weekend, when I put on over 300 miles, and it was very loose. It was not leaking at that point, however, nor was the chain too tight - too loose if anything. In fact, when the leak started the chain was not too tight nor was the sprocket nut loose. Guess one or the other, though done earlier, could certainly have caused the problem. I hope further damage was not done. At any rate, I'm missing my bike and will likely not have it back for a few days. Thanks for the comments and advise on this. rw Posted by: "Michael Nelson" michaelnel@... michaelnyh30 Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:37 pm (PST) On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 03:06:06PM -0700, Robert Waters wrote:

> I just got the verdict from the dealer regarding my oil leak. I had > changed the front sprocket and did not get it tight. They say this is > the reason the seal went out. Don't know why, but I did not get it > tight. I remember now that I actually had to get an impact wrench to get > it off. That should have told me something about how tight it needed to > be.

BS. There are problems associated with undertorquing the cs nut, but that output shaft leak isn't one of them. That is usually caused by having insufficient slack in the chain. BTW, it should be 72 foot-pounds of torque, which is a considerable amount. Michael -- "Do you think that when they asked George Washington for ID he just whipped out a quarter?" --Steven Wright San Francisco, CA Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 3c. Re: Wrong Front Sprocket Torque Results in bad Oil Leak Posted by: "Kimosabe" stmilum@... stmilum Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:54 pm (PST) Agreed. Sounds like BS to me too. I'd be interested in hearing a detailed explanation from the dealer. Steve in Niceville --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Michael Nelson wrote:

> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 03:06:06PM -0700, Robert Waters wrote: > > > I just got the verdict from the dealer regarding my oil leak.

I had

> > changed the front sprocket and did not get it tight. They say

this is

> > the reason the seal went out. Don't know why, but I did not

get it

> > tight. I remember now that I actually had to get an impact

wrench to get

> > it off. That should have told me something about how tight it

needed to

> > be. > > BS. There are problems associated with undertorquing the cs nut,

but that output shaft leak isn't one of them. That is usually caused by having insufficient slack in the chain.

> > BTW, it should be 72 foot-pounds of torque, which is a considerable

amount.

> > Michael >

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[Arden Kysely]

A lot of helmets are designed so that the inner lining interferes with the airflow from the vents. If that's the case, a little liner surgery will help. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jim Douglas wrote: The last

> helmet I purchased was a $300 HJC FlipUP, and that SOB has little

vent

> holes that do > nothing, absolutely nothing! They need to change the design so that > there is a small scoop > that will grab air and force it into the helmet, the thing they

have on

> this model does nothing, > even the one on the chin! Next time I have a few extract $$$, two

kids

> in college now, I > am dumping this helmet and getting a MX helmet and goggles, I

actually

> miss the visor > from my MX days....... >