what did you learn from your nklr yesterday?

[Douglas Dick]

I would have to second this opinion. With my Honda Civic, the car doesn't really warm up until I start moving. If I leave it idling, the engine actually cools down. Mind you, it is 20 below up here. -----Original Message----- From: dkelly@... [mailto:dkelly@...]On Behalf Of David Kelly Sent: February 12, 2002 8:41 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: clutch trouble "dooden" writes:

> Anybody that recommends starting a cold internal combustion engine > and just riding it without allowing it to warm up is somebody I care > not to read anything from.

Then please add me to your killfile if you really feel that way. "Warm up" is nothing but the carb temperature and its ability to atomize fuel. The combustion chamber temperature has a little bit to do with the ability to burn the fuel. But none of this has anything to do with life of the engine. Either your engine is delivering oil in the needed places, or its not. If the oil is up to pressure and the parts lubricated then there is no issue. Hot oil does not lubricate better, is only easier to pump. What isn't good about running full throttle on a cold engine is the thermal shock. The right way to warm up an engine is to start moving as soon as the engine is capable of propelling the vehicle. And then baby it until it reaches normal operating temperatures. Those who study such things say an engine does't reach complete thermal stability (fully warm up) for at least 15 minutes, under load. Modern automatic transmissioned Toyotas protect cold engines against high pressure low RPM loads by adjusting the shift points. Mine makes fairly normal shifts, cold, at roughly 2000 RPM but for the last shift into high gear is at 2750. Once the heater is blowing hot air the transmission will shift into high gear under same light load conditions at 2000 or less. Those who drive with a heavy foot never notice because they are used to the transmission shifting at 3,000 all the time. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com Be part of the Adventure! Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[RM]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Jack Tollett wrote:

>Skunks aren't your friend. > >Stich is in the washer and I'm looking for someone with no sense of smell >to clean the bike.

Try tomato juice.