clock

[cliffknight@tiscali.co.uk]

Since the distributer thread has diverted to clocks may I ask if anyone has fitted a replacement movement and what do you recommend. My clock movement is missing and the hands are just glued in place at 10:20. Is their a decent wind up or battery movement that can be made to fit. In the case of an electronic movement, access for battery replacement may be a problem. Best wishes from a very cold Greek island Cliff ----Original Message---- From: rwmgtc@shaw.ca Date: 13/01/2009 5:24 To: "squeaky_isabella"bklingenberg@verizon.net>, mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Subj: Re: [mg-tabc] Distributor cry Yeah, and the clock in my TC runs like an XPAG with a hole in the block. Rick Waters Vancouver Canada -----Original Message----- From: squeaky_isabella bklingenberg@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:04:10 To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [mg-tabc] Distributor cry Dear list, I feel abandoned. Why hasn't anybody responded to my inquiry about the secrets of XPAG distributors? What could be more important than revealing the nature and identity of this crucial component? In trying to find a factory photo on my own without your aid I actually succeeded. In the TC instruction manual (brown book) there is a near side view of the engine on page Forty-three. I studied this new found source of official intelligence using a magnifying glass with great expectations but my admiration for the Abingdon factory diminished. The wire routing mostly reminds me of the gut of a cat. All the wires make happy little loops in their attempt to get from the cover to the plugs, totally ignoring any desire to simplify the installation and avoiding crossing each other. It does look, though, like number one wire originates at the ten o'clock position as I had concluded earlier that it should. The only plausible explanation for this extravaganza is that all the wires are of identical length. Perhaps that warrants it? I'm not going to ask you since I probably won't get an answer anyway. The main thing, I guess, is that TC7773 runs like a clock, beginning at ten before twelve. Bjorn TC7773 Silverton, Oregon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Get 50% off Norton Security 2009 - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/security ________________________________________________ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Arnold Parlee]

There are a number of little clock movements that will fit into the TC tach. Try places like small hardware stores, Walmart and Dollar stores. Usually they are under $10 and will be installed in some nondescript ornament but are easily removed with the battery. Take the measurements with you and have fun shopping for your girl. Arnold, TC0580 2009/1/12 cliffknight@tiscali.co.uk cliffknight@tiscali.co.uk>

> > Since the distributer thread has diverted to clocks may I ask if anyone has > fitted a replacement movement and what do you recommend. My clock movement > is missing and the hands are just glued in place at 10:20. Is their a decent > wind up or battery movement that can be made to fit. In the case of an > electronic movement, access for battery replacement may be a problem. > > Best wishes from a very cold Greek island > > Cliff > > ----Original Message---- > From: rwmgtc@shaw.ca > Date: 13/01/2009 5:24 > To: "squeaky_isabella"bklingenberg@verizon.net>, > mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > > Subj: Re: [mg-tabc] Distributor cry > > Yeah, and the clock in my TC runs like an XPAG with a hole in the block. > > Rick Waters > Vancouver Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: squeaky_isabella bklingenberg@verizon.net > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:04:10 > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [mg-tabc] Distributor cry > > Dear list, > I feel abandoned. Why hasn't anybody responded to my inquiry about > the secrets of XPAG distributors? What could be more important than > revealing the nature and identity of this crucial component? In > trying to find a factory photo on my own without your aid I actually > succeeded. In the TC instruction manual (brown book) there is a > near side view of the engine on page Forty-three. I studied this > new found source of official intelligence using a magnifying glass > with great expectations but my admiration for the Abingdon factory > diminished. The wire routing mostly reminds me of the gut of a cat. > All the wires make happy little loops in their attempt to get from > the cover to the plugs, totally ignoring any desire to simplify the > installation and avoiding crossing each other. It does look, > though, like number one wire originates at the ten o'clock position > as I had concluded earlier that it should. The only plausible > explanation for this extravaganza is that all the wires are of > identical length. Perhaps that warrants it? I'm not going to ask > you since I probably won't get an answer anyway. The main thing, I > guess, is that TC7773 runs like a clock, beginning at ten before > twelve. > Bjorn TC7773 > Silverton, Oregon > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Get 50% off Norton Security 2009 - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/security > ________________________________________________ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >

-- Arnold Parlee http://communities.msn.com/ParleePictures http://picasaweb.google.com/home http://www.flickr.com/photos/arnold2005/ http://web.mac.com/mparlee [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Graham Hore]

G'day Cliff, My TC clock has been stopped at 7.30 for about 30 years - but at least it tells the right time twice a day! Graham Hore Melbourne, Australia TC8819

[MGLeckstein]

Besides my TC I have a TF which is a real driver. I have crossed the country with it in 1986 and took it on the Circuit of Britain in 1990, The clock never worked. When I picked up the car in Liverpool on the Circuit of Britain, after the car had been at sea for 10 days, I noticed that the clock was working. Maybe the gentile rocking of the ship repaired it! The clock worked perfectly for the next three weeks of the tour. When I recovered the car after shipment back to New Jersey, the clock had stopped. It hasn't worked since then (now 19 years). Who says there aren't strange forces that are loose in our cars. Mike -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hore Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:58 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock G'day Cliff, My TC clock has been stopped at 7.30 for about 30 years - but at least it tells the right time twice a day! Graham Hore Melbourne, Australia TC8819 ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

[Mike Hughes]

Mike - I remember that. Just remember it's a British clock that only functions properly on GMT, thus in the vicinity of the Zero Meridian! Once separated from the Zero Meridian, it is only accurate twice daily! ;^) - Mike - -

----- Original Message ----- From: MGLeckstein To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:29 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock Besides my TC I have a TF which is a real driver. I have crossed the country with it in 1986 and took it on the Circuit of Britain in 1990, The clock never worked. When I picked up the car in Liverpool on the Circuit of Britain, after the car had been at sea for 10 days, I noticed that the clock was working. Maybe the gentile rocking of the ship repaired it! The clock worked perfectly for the next three weeks of the tour. When I recovered the car after shipment back to New Jersey, the clock had stopped. It hasn't worked since then (now 19 years). Who says there aren't strange forces that are loose in our cars. Mike -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hore Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:58 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock G'day Cliff, My TC clock has been stopped at 7.30 for about 30 years - but at least it tells the right time twice a day! Graham Hore Melbourne, Australia TC8819 ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[squeaky_isabella]

Undoubtedly the same effect which so deligtfully enhances the Norvegian aquavit which is shipped to Australia and back before being sold to happy consumers. Bjorn TC7773 --- In mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com, "MGLeckstein" wrote:

> > Besides my TC I have a TF which is a real driver. I have crossed

the country

> with it in 1986 and took it on the Circuit of Britain in 1990, The

clock

> never worked. When I picked up the car in Liverpool on the Circuit

of

> Britain, after the car had been at sea for 10 days, I noticed that

the clock

> was working. Maybe the gentile rocking of the ship repaired it!

The clock

> worked perfectly for the next three weeks of the tour. When I

recovered the

> car after shipment back to New Jersey, the clock had stopped. It

hasn't

> worked since then (now 19 years). Who says there aren't strange

forces that

> are loose in our cars. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> Graham Hore > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:58 PM > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock > > G'day Cliff, > > My TC clock has been stopped at 7.30 for about 30 years - but at

least

> it tells the right time twice a day! > > Graham Hore > Melbourne, > Australia > TC8819 > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links >

[WDHarmer@aol.com]

Years ago, at a car show, I was told by a big name restorer that most car clock restorations consist of simply soaking the works in solvent for a couple of days. He said to do that, dry it thoroughly, then the tiniest spot of light oil on the bearings and it should be good to go. That was probably ten years ago, and my clock is still right "twice a day", as I haven't tried this repair yet. Just relating the story, and hopefully it is worth more than it cost. Dan Harmer '48 TC #5122 San Diego, CA -----Original Message----- From: MGLeckstein mgleckstein@monmouth.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 2:29 pm Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock Besides my TC I have a TF which is a real driver. I have crossed the country with it in 1986 and took it on the Circuit of Britain in 1990, The clock never worked. When I picked up the car in Liverpool on the Circuit of Britain, after the car had been at sea for 10 days, I noticed that the clock was working. Maybe the gentile rocking of the ship repaired it! The clock worked perfectly for the next three weeks of the tour. When I recovered the car after shipment back to New Jersey, the clock had stopped. It hasn't worked since then (now 19 years). Who says there aren't strange forces that are loose in our cars. Mike -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hore Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:58 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock G'day Cliff, My TC clock has been stopped at 7.30 for about 30 years - but at least it tells the right time twice a day! Graham Hore Melbourne, Australia TC8819 ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[squeaky_isabella]

Anybody trying this, make sure to use whale oil. Bjorn

--- In mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com, WDHarmer@... wrote: > > Years ago, at a car show, I was told by a big name restorer that most car clock restorations consist of simply soaking the works in solvent for a couple of days. He said to do that, dry it thoroughly, then the tiniest spot of light oil on the bearings and it should be good to go. > That was probably ten years ago, and my clock is still right "twice a day", as I haven't tried this repair yet. > > Just relating the story, and hopefully it is worth more than it cost. > > Dan Harmer > > '48 TC #5122 > > San Diego, CA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MGLeckstein > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 2:29 pm > Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides my TC I have a TF which is a real driver. I have crossed the country > > with it in 1986 and took it on the Circuit of Britain in 1990, The clock > > never worked. When I picked up the car in Liverpool on the Circuit of > > Britain, after the car had been at sea for 10 days, I noticed that the clock > > was working. Maybe the gentile rocking of the ship repaired it! The clock > > worked perfectly for the next three weeks of the tour. When I recovered the > > car after shipment back to New Jersey, the clock had stopped. It hasn't > > worked since then (now 19 years). Who says there aren't strange forces that > > are loose in our cars. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > > Graham Hore > > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:58 PM > > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock > > > > G'day Cliff, > > > > My TC clock has been stopped at 7.30 for about 30 years - but at least > > it tells the right time twice a day! > > > > Graham Hore > > Melbourne, > > Australia > > TC8819 > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Terry & Lynda-May O'Brien]

After all those somewhat off the mark replies I will add my experience with the clock. About 10 years ago I needed my rev counter refurbished. It was sent to MO MA in NM. At that time they were offering a replacement clock ( transistorized?) so told them to add it. Installed the rev counter and the clock work perfectly until the engine was started when it immediately stopped. Turn off the engine clock started minus the time the engine was running. Electricity baffles me. Eventually I found that if I disconnected the cable to the tach the clock worked when the engine ran. Complained to Mo Ma and told to get stuffed. Eventually with the help of a couple of guys on the TD BBS one of whom sent me a 25c radio shack resistor I got the clock working. Have never used Mo Ma since. In 2007 the clock acted up again then last year it started to work properly ? and when it works it keeps perfect time even over several months of inactivity. This clock is on my YT. When I did my TC I sent all the instruments to John Marks but for some reason did not ask him to do the clock. So if I were you I would start with him. In the USA there is also Hal Kramer who comes highly recommended. Terry in Vancouver cliffknight@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

>Since the distributer thread has diverted to clocks may I ask if anyone has fitted a replacement movement and what do you recommend. My clock movement is missing and the hands are just glued in place at 10:20. Is their a decent wind up or battery movement that can be made to fit. In the case of an electronic movement, access for battery replacement may be a problem. > >Best wishes from a very cold Greek island > >Cliff > > >----Original Message---- >From: rwmgtc@shaw.ca >Date: 13/01/2009 5:24 >To: "squeaky_isabella"bklingenberg@verizon.net>, mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subj: Re: [mg-tabc] Distributor cry > > > > > > > >Yeah, and the clock in my TC runs like an XPAG with a hole in the block. > >Rick Waters >Vancouver Canada > > >-----Original Message----- >From: squeaky_isabella bklingenberg@verizon.net> > >Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:04:10 >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [mg-tabc] Distributor cry > > >Dear list, >I feel abandoned. Why hasn't anybody responded to my inquiry about >the secrets of XPAG distributors? What could be more important than >revealing the nature and identity of this crucial component? In >trying to find a factory photo on my own without your aid I actually >succeeded. In the TC instruction manual (brown book) there is a >near side view of the engine on page Forty-three. I studied this >new found source of official intelligence using a magnifying glass >with great expectations but my admiration for the Abingdon factory >diminished. The wire routing mostly reminds me of the gut of a cat. >All the wires make happy little loops in their attempt to get from >the cover to the plugs, totally ignoring any desire to simplify the >installation and avoiding crossing each other. It does look, >though, like number one wire originates at the ten o'clock position >as I had concluded earlier that it should. The only plausible >explanation for this extravaganza is that all the wires are of >identical length. Perhaps that warrants it? I'm not going to ask >you since I probably won't get an answer anyway. The main thing, I >guess, is that TC7773 runs like a clock, beginning at ten before >twelve. >Bjorn TC7773 >Silverton, Oregon > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Get 50% off Norton Security 2009 - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/security >________________________________________________ > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >

[Paul Huck]

Not recommended for ELECTRIC CLOCKS!!

----- Original Message ----- From: squeaky_isabella To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:33 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock Anybody trying this, make sure to use whale oil. Bjorn --- In mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com, WDHarmer@... wrote: > > Years ago, at a car show, I was told by a big name restorer that most car clock restorations consist of simply soaking the works in solvent for a couple of days. He said to do that, dry it thoroughly, then the tiniest spot of light oil on the bearings and it should be good to go. > That was probably ten years ago, and my clock is still right "twice a day", as I haven't tried this repair yet. > > Just relating the story, and hopefully it is worth more than it cost. > > Dan Harmer > > '48 TC #5122 > > San Diego, CA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MGLeckstein > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 2:29 pm > Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides my TC I have a TF which is a real driver. I have crossed the country > > with it in 1986 and took it on the Circuit of Britain in 1990, The clock > > never worked. When I picked up the car in Liverpool on the Circuit of > > Britain, after the car had been at sea for 10 days, I noticed that the clock > > was working. Maybe the gentile rocking of the ship repaired it! The clock > > worked perfectly for the next three weeks of the tour. When I recovered the > > car after shipment back to New Jersey, the clock had stopped. It hasn't > > worked since then (now 19 years). Who says there aren't strange forces that > > are loose in our cars. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > > Graham Hore > > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:58 PM > > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [mg-tabc] Re:Clock > > > > G'day Cliff, > > > > My TC clock has been stopped at 7.30 for about 30 years - but at least > > it tells the right time twice a day! > > > > Graham Hore > > Melbourne, > > Australia > > TC8819 > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1891 - Release Date: 1/13/2009 8:17 AM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]