> > > I used to be very impatient way back when I knew everything. > but now i find that I have much lower expectations of the public in > general, so I am more patient. > or maybe just more tolerant? > > > > > On Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:12 PM, "Alfred Elfman > maxtork1957@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Less patient for the overwhelming amount of dummies out there! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 21, 2014, at 12:40 PM, "'Norm Keller' normkel32@... > [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> Our reactions differ but I find that I'm less likely to care from an >> ego stand point whether someone believes that they are superior to me, >> so I react to a lesser degree also. Not certain that this is maturity >> because it might be apathy.>> >> I do wonder about the head space of guys like the ones you met, >> though. Let's set aside the polite social conventions and simply >> assume that I was one of those guys on the road side and I didn't care >> a bit about you or whether you were offended. So, what I'm saying is >> if I were completely self absorbed and didn't care all all excepting >> for myself, how should I proceed? >> >> It would seem that I would be better off to pretend that I did care >> about you so as to be more likely to get you to help me if I needed >> it. I would be better off in waiting for you to leave before making >> fun of you to try to enhance my status in the eyes of my buddies. >> >> From my perspective, people like that are simply too stupid for words. >> When I encounter them, I refuse to do anything to help them, saving >> not allowing them to die. I just leave because helping them after a >> reaction like that seems likely to reward that sort of behavior, IMO. >> >> My favorites are the friend of a friend on a ride who makes fun of me >> for carrying extra stuff, then later asks to borrow the same items >> which they ridiculed me for carrying. My response is always, "No, you >> can't borrow it. You were right in saying that only a stupid person >> would carry all that crap but I'm learning. I'm not going to throw it >> away so let's just pretend it doesn't exist." I stick to that and will >> not bend. >> >> Here's a straw poll for all of you who are over 50: "Are you becoming >> more patient or less patient as you get older?" >> >> For me it is less patient.
>> > > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com> > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3955/7572 - Release Date: 08/21/14 >
brake hoses from china
-
- Posts: 95
- Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:26 am
old age?? (nklr)
I can be impatient, but I wouldn't use that to describe how I interact
with people. I am very particular with whom I choose to associate with,
and that goes right down to casual meetings with people I don't know.
Over the years I've learned that I innate ability to "read" people
extremely well. I can tell whether I like someone in just a few seconds.
Slight mannerisms can tell you a lot about someone. If I pick up that
someone has even the slightest ego or attitude, I'll make an excuse to
leave. I just won't waste my time to douchebags.
On the otherhand, if someone is legitimately stupid, I don't mind
lending a hand, or explaining something. There should be a distinction
between truly dumb, and what we would call an idiot.
Ryan Newman
Phoenix, AZ
Bubba Gee underappreciated1@... [DSN_KLR650] wrote:
-
- Posts: 2
- Joined: Mon Apr 15, 2002 9:39 am
old age?? (nklr)
A little late to the party. Sorry. As a Christian reconnecting with his faith, I tend to grant a lot of grace. I will extend help to anyone willing to accept it. But I won't shove it down their throat. I ran out of gas (many years ago) about 5 miles south of Kettleman City on California's I5. I had made the run many times before. Headwinds had cut my gas mileage in half, more or less. I was riding a FJ1200 at the time. Many cars ignored my plight. Finally, a car pulled over to help. They were all Mexicans. Not a one of them spoke English. To make matters worse, I realized I left my wallet with the bike when we were about halfway to the gas stations in Kettelman City.
A few months later, riding an R100GS, I ran into someone in a similar situation. We pulled the line to the carb while the engine was running, and filled a plastic bottle we found on the side of the freeway.
More recent, I had to have a friend rescue me with his Harley tools (Crescent wrench and water pump pliers). We're all brothers under the skin.
Ride safe,
Bill
-
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:23 am
old age?? (nklr)
HAr-dee-har-har serves'em right. I hate to leave someone stranded, especially another rider, but a smart ass if a whole other thing.
On Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:34 AM, "Bill Woodard bmrbill@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
A little late to the party. Sorry. As a Christian reconnecting with his faith, I tend to grant a lot of grace. I will extend help to anyone willing to accept it. But I won't shove it down their throat. I ran out of gas (many years ago) about 5 miles south of Kettleman City on California's I5. I had made the run many times before. Headwinds had cut my gas mileage in half, more or less. I was riding a FJ1200 at the time. Many cars ignored my plight. Finally, a car pulled over to help. They were all Mexicans. Not a one of them spoke English. To make matters worse, I realized I left my wallet with the bike when we were about halfway to the gas stations in Kettelman City.
A few months later, riding an R100GS, I ran into someone in a similar situation. We pulled the line to the carb while the engine was running, and filled a plastic bottle we found on the side of the freeway.
More recent, I had to have a friend rescue me with his Harley tools (Crescent wrench and water pump pliers). We're all brothers under the skin.
Ride safe,
Bill
#ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 -- #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ad { padding:0 0;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ad p { margin:0;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-lc #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560hd { margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-lc .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ad { margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560actions { font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560activity { background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560activity span { font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560activity span:first-child { text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560activity span a { color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560activity span span { color:#ff7900;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560activity span .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560underline { text-decoration:underline;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560attach { clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560attach div a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560attach img { border:none;padding-right:5px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560attach label { display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560attach label a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 blockquote { margin:0 0 0 4px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560bold { font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560bold a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 dd.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560last p a { font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 dd.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560last p span { margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 dd.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560last p span.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560yshortcuts { margin-right:0;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560attach-table div div a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560attach-table { width:400px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560file-title a, #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560file-title a:active, #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560file-title a:hover, #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560file-title a:visited { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560photo-title a, #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560photo-title a:active, #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560photo-title a:hover, #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560photo-title a:visited { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 div#ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mlmsg #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-msg p a span.ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560yshortcuts { font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560green { color:#628c2a;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 o { font-size:0;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560photos div { float:left;width:72px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560photos div div { border:1px solid #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560photos div label { color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560reco-category { font-size:77%;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560reco-desc { font-size:77%;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 .ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560replbq { margin:4px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-actbar div a:first-child { margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mlmsg { font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mlmsg table { font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mlmsg select, #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 input, #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 textarea { font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mlmsg pre, #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 code { font:115% monospace;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mlmsg * { line-height:1.22em;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-mlmsg #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560logo { padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-msg p a { font-family:Verdana;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-msg p#ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560attach-count span { color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-reco #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560reco-head { color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ov li a { font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ov li { font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ov ul { margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-text { font-family:Georgia;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-text p { margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-text tt { font-size:120%;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560 #ygrps-yiv-1142211758yiv9956087560ygrp-vital ul li:last-child { border-right:none !important;} #ygrps-yiv-1142211758
-
- Posts: 361
- Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:17 am
old age?? (nklr)
Couple of montths ago , as i was going to work ,I heard the rumble of straight pipes , I looked in the left mirror and saw that a Harley was coming up too fast and too loud ,as he passed me , as a civilized person that I am, I lowered my left hand "HI" he responded by giving me the middle finger , I thought to myself well that's a normal reaction for a " lose my bolts all over the place" Harley rider ,10 miles down the road the same guy was sitting on his rust bucket with a trooper behind him , as we locked eyes , I could not help letting him know that he was number one in my book .. Dumb Ass....
On Sunday, August 31, 2014 5:36 PM, "Tim Pruitt tenntimtwo@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
HAr-dee-har-har serves'em right. I hate to leave someone stranded, especially another rider, but a smart ass if a whole other thing.
On Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:34 AM, "Bill Woodard bmrbill@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
A little late to the party. Sorry. As a Christian reconnecting with his faith, I tend to grant a lot of grace. I will extend help to anyone willing to accept it. But I won't shove it down their throat. I ran out of gas (many years ago) about 5 miles south of Kettleman City on California's I5. I had made the run many times before. Headwinds had cut my gas mileage in half, more or less. I was riding a FJ1200 at the time. Many cars ignored my plight. Finally, a car pulled over to help. They were all Mexicans. Not a one of them spoke English. To make matters worse, I realized I left my wallet with the bike when we were about halfway to the gas stations in Kettelman City.
A few months later, riding an R100GS, I ran into someone in a similar situation. We pulled the line to the carb while the engine was running, and filled a plastic bottle we found on the side of the freeway.
More recent, I had to have a friend rescue me with his Harley tools (Crescent wrench and water pump pliers). We're all brothers under the skin.
Ride safe,
Bill
#ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 -- #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ad { padding:0 0;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ad p { margin:0;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-lc #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164hd { margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-lc .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ad { margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164actions { font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164activity { background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164activity span { font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164activity span:first-child { text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164activity span a { color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164activity span span { color:#ff7900;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164activity span .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164underline { text-decoration:underline;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164attach { clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164attach div a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164attach img { border:none;padding-right:5px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164attach label { display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164attach label a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 blockquote { margin:0 0 0 4px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164bold { font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164bold a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 dd.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164last p a { font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 dd.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164last p span { margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 dd.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164last p span.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164yshortcuts { margin-right:0;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164attach-table div div a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164attach-table { width:400px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164file-title a, #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164file-title a:active, #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164file-title a:hover, #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164file-title a:visited { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164photo-title a, #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164photo-title a:active, #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164photo-title a:hover, #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164photo-title a:visited { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 div#ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mlmsg #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-msg p a span.ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164yshortcuts { font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164green { color:#628c2a;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 o { font-size:0;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164photos div { float:left;width:72px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164photos div div { border:1px solid #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164photos div label { color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164reco-category { font-size:77%;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164reco-desc { font-size:77%;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 .ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164replbq { margin:4px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-actbar div a:first-child { margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mlmsg { font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mlmsg table { font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mlmsg select, #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 input, #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 textarea { font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mlmsg pre, #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 code { font:115% monospace;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mlmsg * { line-height:1.22em;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-mlmsg #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164logo { padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-msg p a { font-family:Verdana;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-msg p#ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164attach-count span { color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-reco #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164reco-head { color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ov li a { font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ov li { font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ov ul { margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-text { font-family:Georgia;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-text p { margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-text tt { font-size:120%;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164 #ygrps-yiv-868107491yiv0618805164ygrp-vital ul li:last-child { border-right:none !important;} #ygrps-yiv-868107491
-
- Posts: 712
- Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:48 am
old age?? (nklr)
When peoples' behaviors cross a certain line, I begin to wonder about their rationality so often broach the subject to hear what others think.
For some reason I seem not to be able to articulate my point clearly which seems to often take the discussion into another direction but will try again because I really care to hear what others think.
When one encounters a total stranger, one has little idea as to their motives or attitudes so it is very difficult to predict their reactions. This is why creatures are generally either cautious or openly aggressive when encountering a stranger. A problem with open aggression in a civilized society is that the consequences of aggression tend to be very high.
Let's take the Harley rider incident to the primeval: he offered significant provocation (single digit) to a total stranger. What might have been your reaction? Unknown. Within the scope of reported and possible reactions might be that you are extremely violent, unstable and volatile, right? How could he conclude otherwise?
Let's say that you weren't on your medication, pursued, overcame and tortured him for an extended period. Possible? Would a rational person see the upside of that not happening as a balance to the downside? Hard to say but doesn't work for me.
Let's say that you burst into tears and decided to end your life because you were so devastated by his cruelty and were motivated to open the throttle to take him with you? Irrational? Yes, but less rational than provoking a total stranger...you decide.
Social groups of creatures tend to develop a "moral" code because it lubricates the interactions between members of the group. Pressure is applied to individuals who act outside the boundaries of the "moral" code in order to maintain the group. These "moral" codes often differ between members of different tribes/troops which brings individuals from separate tribes/groups into conflict when they encounter one another because the message conveyed by signals may be opposite to that intended. Could he be conveying, "I love you and think your bike is the best thing ever."? Maybe but unlikely since he is also part of the larger society.
Another side of that incident is that he cannot expect that you will not encounter each other in future. Might you be the person who just bought the business which employs him? Maybe you are the owner of their largest customer and drop their account when you recognize him later?
What's the upside for him of provoking you? A fleeting feeling of power/superiority from a psychopathic act? Maybe but how important can that be to a rational person, even a psychopathic one? The peer group would not appear to be much of a factor there because you suggest that he was alone.
Easy to say, "He's just an idiot!", but there must be some motivation involved so I continue to wonder what that might be......
-
- Posts: 1027
- Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:18 am
old age?? (nklr)
Big question, Was he "Flipping you off" OR
Now days even among friends the of the nicest groups, entertainers, etc etc.Giving someone the finger, (WHILE THE SAME WORDS ARE BEHIND THE SYMBOL.) is a positive thing.
The "norm" of today seems to be, HOW CRUDE & NASTY, CAN YOU BE.
I TOTALLY DO NOT LIKE IT.
I'm U.S. Navy Vet., (As kids we all heard about Sailors & Swearing. LOL) Carnie (Carnival) Veteran (6yrs. 70's & 80's still dabble) Raised in Flint & Detriot & Chicago, (& NC mountains, 1/2 Hillbilly) needed to leave home at 16 1/2, (On the streets, & bars alot in my youth) etc etc. All the areas the average people consider, "LOW PLACES" & PEOPLE So I am FAR from being self righteous about life styles.
Yet I have to shake my head about todays standard "values" & "morals"
On Monday, September 1, 2014 12:50 PM, "'Norm Keller' normkel32@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
When peoples' behaviors cross a certain line, I begin to wonder about their rationality so often broach the subject to hear what others think. For some reason I seem not to be able to articulate my point clearly which seems to often take the discussion into another direction but will try again because I really care to hear what others think. When one encounters a total stranger, one has little idea as to their motives or attitudes so it is very difficult to predict their reactions. This is why creatures are generally either cautious or openly aggressive when encountering a stranger. A problem with open aggression in a civilized society is that the consequences of aggression tend to be very high. Let's take the Harley rider incident to the primeval: he offered significant provocation (single digit) to a total stranger. What might have been your reaction? Unknown. Within the scope of reported and possible reactions might be that you are extremely violent, unstable and volatile, right? How could he conclude otherwise? Let's say that you weren't on your medication, pursued, overcame and tortured him for an extended period. Possible? Would a rational person see the upside of that not happening as a balance to the downside? Hard to say but doesn't work for me. Let's say that you burst into tears and decided to end your life because you were so devastated by his cruelty and were motivated to open the throttle to take him with you? Irrational? Yes, but less rational than provoking a total stranger...you decide. Social groups of creatures tend to develop a "moral" code because it lubricates the interactions between members of the group. Pressure is applied to individuals who act outside the boundaries of the "moral" code in order to maintain the group. These "moral" codes often differ between members of different tribes/troops which brings individuals from separate tribes/groups into conflict when they encounter one another because the message conveyed by signals may be opposite to that intended. Could he be conveying, "I love you and think your bike is the best thing ever."? Maybe but unlikely since he is also part of the larger society. Another side of that incident is that he cannot expect that you will not encounter each other in future. Might you be the person who just bought the business which employs him? Maybe you are the owner of their largest customer and drop their account when you recognize him later? What's the upside for him of provoking you? A fleeting feeling of power/superiority from a psychopathic act? Maybe but how important can that be to a rational person, even a psychopathic one? The peer group would not appear to be much of a factor there because you suggest that he was alone. Easy to say, "He's just an idiot!", but there must be some motivation involved so I continue to wonder what that might be...... #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 -- #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ad { padding:0 0;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ad p { margin:0;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-lc #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976hd { margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-lc .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ad { margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976actions { font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976activity { background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976activity span { font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976activity span:first-child { text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976activity span a { color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976activity span span { color:#ff7900;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976activity span .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976underline { text-decoration:underline;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976attach { clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976attach div a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976attach img { border:none;padding-right:5px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976attach label { display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976attach label a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 blockquote { margin:0 0 0 4px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976bold { font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976bold a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 dd.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976last p a { font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 dd.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976last p span { margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 dd.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976last p span.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976yshortcuts { margin-right:0;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976attach-table div div a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976attach-table { width:400px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976file-title a, #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976file-title a:active, #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976file-title a:hover, #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976file-title a:visited { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976photo-title a, #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976photo-title a:active, #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976photo-title a:hover, #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976photo-title a:visited { text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 div#ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mlmsg #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-msg p a span.ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976yshortcuts { font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976green { color:#628c2a;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 o { font-size:0;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976photos div { float:left;width:72px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976photos div div { border:1px solid #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976photos div label { color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976reco-category { font-size:77%;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976reco-desc { font-size:77%;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 .ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976replbq { margin:4px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-actbar div a:first-child { margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mlmsg { font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mlmsg table { font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mlmsg select, #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 input, #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 textarea { font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mlmsg pre, #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 code { font:115% monospace;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mlmsg * { line-height:1.22em;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-mlmsg #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976logo { padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-msg p a { font-family:Verdana;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-msg p#ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976attach-count span { color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-reco #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976reco-head { color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ov li a { font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ov li { font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-sponsor #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ov ul { margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-text { font-family:Georgia;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-text p { margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-text tt { font-size:120%;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976 #ygrps-yiv-915217647yiv8447991976ygrp-vital ul li:last-child { border-right:none !important;} #ygrps-yiv-915217647
-
- Posts: 472
- Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2000 9:42 am
brake hoses from china
Brake components are very much like parachutes. You want them to stop you every time.
I wouldn't skimp on either.
Galfer, Goodridge-Aeroquip, Spiegler, etc... all make top shelf parts for a reasonable price.
My personal choice are Spiegler hoses. You can rotate the bbanjo fittings a little, if required to ensure a 100% bind-free fit.
I have a set on my FZ-09 that was made with one banjo fitting 180 degrees off. The clamp tool they send with each kit took care of that, pronto.
-eddie
----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] itsdfoot@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, September 01, 2014 2:42 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: Brake hoses from China I myself would not trust the Chinese junk. sure as shit something will go wrong with it
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 22 guests