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[The Mule]

I'm just around 20,000 miles, going from original stock to DID X-Ring, as well as new sprockets. Is my leftover PJ-1 "blue" O-Ring lube gonna hurt it? Steve Miller(occasional wise-ass) A14 "The Mule" PS: But seriously.................... Went by the Owners' Manual max drive chain service length (due to stretch). Frequently abused, had no problems. Looking forward to the ride a new drive chain AND balancer doohickey thingy are gonna bring.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrel & Deanna" To: Cc: "KLR list" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 9:13 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Chain lube > If your A15 has around 10K miles on it, there's a good chance your chain is > shot. My OEM chain died about that time and the noise you > mention was the indicator. I've got over 15K miles on my DID X-Ring chain > and still going strong. > > Darrel > A12 > ****************** > So how do I clean my chain and what kind of lube should I use to make > this noise go away. I am new to motorcycling and any help would be > greatly appreciated. > > David > A15 > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[leedodd2001]

I,m still running the stock chain on my 99 A13 using Chain Wax , Its just now at the streach limit at 20k miles. Its a EK o-ring chain I believe, and thats what I,m going to replace it with. cheers, Lee

[TexasThumpin@aol.com]

In a message dated 12/16/01 3:23:53 AM Central Standard Time, DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com writes:

> I'm just around 20,000 miles, going from original stock to DID X-Ring, as > well as new sprockets. Is my leftover PJ-1 "blue" O-Ring lube gonna hurt it? >

I have seen a lot of statements about one should choose this or that method to lube the drive chain. So, I thought I'd share my method. First, I get out a good pile of rags. Then I reach for my High temperature Bearing Grease. OOooops, forgot to mention that jewelry should be removed. I sit next to the bike, get a big wade of grease and start massaging the chain. When I feel a section is done, then I move on to the next one by turning the rear wheel. I massage high temp grease throughout the entire chain. I get and old tooth brush and I cross brush the sprockets. After completing this, I wipe off the excess. For the initial cleaning, I use S100 and a toothbrush. Happy Holidays Jim Texas Thumpin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[bsetliff]

Here's some info from Tom Grenon's motorcycleexplorer.com website... "The KLR like all single cylinder dual sport bikes, all have similar drive line characteristics that come together to destroy chains and sprockets in a relatively short distance of 16,000 - 18,000km. I had gotten tired of such poor performence using the popular aerosol chain lubricants and decided to try what is written on all RK chains boxes " lube with 90 weight gear oil", doing that every 150 - 200 km has produced almost TRIPLE the normal chain and sprocket life, I put 52,256 km (32,660 miles) on this last set before replacement - even then the chain was running smooth with no tight spots, the rear sprocket was still in great shape, but it was the engine sprocket that was hooking that made me do the change."

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Robert J. Kaub" wrote: > My personal experience: > Since day one I have used Chain Wax on my '98 EXCEPT for last riding season > when I tried 90w gear oil.

[Rev.Chuck]

When the chain is warm I scrub it with WD40, dry and apply chain wax every 1000 miles or so if straight clean street riding, and every time after dirt/mud/sand riding. Rev. Chuck :^)>+ A13 Antelope, California http://KLR650.50Megs.Com/ Or http://DualSports.OnWeb.CX/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- "bohdansdad" wrote:

>I have been the proud owner of a 2001 klr for about two weeks now. >Man >what a great ride. Last weekend I went for about a ninety mile ride. >Most of this ride was on rough dirt roads which were followed by a 25 >mile highway ride back into town. Once I was back in town I noticed >that my chain was making some nasty sounds as I accelerate from a >stop. > >So how do I clean my chain and what kind of lube should I use to make >this noise go away. I am new to motorcycling and any help would be >greatly appreciated. > >David >A15 > > >Checkout Dual Sport News at >http://www.dualsportnews.com >Be part of the Adventure! > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

> I was wondering what CHAIN LUBE do we use as a GROUP > and is there some we DONT use use to the ORING (I am > guessing it is some kind of O-Ring)

Hey Chuck, *I* generally use the PJ1 black, but will settle for anything on the following list that ranked near the top. Someone posted this to the list a while ago: As tested by Motorcycle Consumer News in the Sept issue. They tested 22 different chain lubes, here are the results: #01 - PJ1 Chain Lube (black) total score 25.0 / est. @ $0.42/oz #02 - Kawasaki K-Kare Foaming total score 23.5 / est. @ $0.36/oz #03 - Yamaha Performance total score 23.5 / est. @ $0.53/oz #04 - Pro Honda HP Lube total score 22.0 / est. @ $0.53/oz #05 - PJ1 Chain Lube (blue) total score 22.0 / est. @ $0.44/oz #06 - Torco Power Slide Titanium total score 21.5 /est.@ $0.54/oz #07 - Bardahl Chain Wax w/ score 20.0 @ $0.47/oz #08 - Maxima Synthetic Chain Guard w/ score 19.5 @ $0.54/oz #09 - Silkolene ProChain w/ score 18.5 @ $0.48/oz #10 - Bel-Ray Chain Lube w/ score 18.5 @ $0.43/oz #11 - Maxima Chain Wax w/ score 17.5 @ $0.59/oz #12 - VP Chain Glide w/ score 17.5 @ $0.54/oz #13 - Bel-ray Super Clean w/ score 17.5 @ $0.59/oz #14 - Castrol Chain Wax w/ score 17.0 @ $1.84/oz #15 - Lubrimatic EP Gear Lube w/ score 16.5 @ $0.059/oz* roughly 6 cents #16 - Motul Chain Lube w/ score 16.5 @ $0.59/oz #17 - Motul Chain Lube Plus w/ score 16.0 @ $0.59/oz #18 - Suzuki Chain Lube w/ score 16.0 @ $0.42/oz [The following were below WD-40 ratings] #19 - WD-40 w/ score 14.5 @ $0.40/oz #20 - Spectro Synthetic Total Tac w/ score 14.5 @ $0.46/oz #21 - Silkolene Chain Lube w/ score 11.0 @ $0.41/oz #22 - Yamaha Chain Lube w/ score 9.0 @ $0.43/oz Mark KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html My Adelphia Email can be "iffy." If you don't get a response, please try: KLR6500@...

[Devon Jarvis]

One important thing to consider- as far as I know, this test was conducted with bikes used on the street. I'm guessing a dual-sport or dirtbike o-ring chain would have WD-40 MUCH higher on the scorecard, since thick chain lubes just turn into grinding paste in sand or mud. Devon A15 Mark St.Hilaire, Sr wrote:

>As tested by Motorcycle Consumer News in the Sept issue. They tested 22 >different chain lubes, here are the results: > >#01 - PJ1 Chain Lube (black) total score 25.0 / est. @ $0.42/oz >#02 - Kawasaki K-Kare Foaming total score 23.5 / est. @ $0.36/oz >#03 - Yamaha Performance total score 23.5 / est. @ $0.53/oz >#04 - Pro Honda HP Lube total score 22.0 / est. @ $0.53/oz >#05 - PJ1 Chain Lube (blue) total score 22.0 / est. @ $0.44/oz >#06 - Torco Power Slide Titanium total score 21.5 /est.@ $0.54/oz >#07 - Bardahl Chain Wax w/ score 20.0 @ $0.47/oz >#08 - Maxima Synthetic Chain Guard w/ score 19.5 @ $0.54/oz >#09 - Silkolene ProChain w/ score 18.5 @ $0.48/oz >#10 - Bel-Ray Chain Lube w/ score 18.5 @ $0.43/oz >#11 - Maxima Chain Wax w/ score 17.5 @ $0.59/oz >#12 - VP Chain Glide w/ score 17.5 @ $0.54/oz >#13 - Bel-ray Super Clean w/ score 17.5 @ $0.59/oz >#14 - Castrol Chain Wax w/ score 17.0 @ $1.84/oz >#15 - Lubrimatic EP Gear Lube w/ score 16.5 @ $0.059/oz* roughly 6 cents >#16 - Motul Chain Lube w/ score 16.5 @ $0.59/oz >#17 - Motul Chain Lube Plus w/ score 16.0 @ $0.59/oz >#18 - Suzuki Chain Lube w/ score 16.0 @ $0.42/oz > >[The following were below WD-40 ratings] > >#19 - WD-40 w/ score 14.5 @ $0.40/oz >#20 - Spectro Synthetic Total Tac w/ score 14.5 @ $0.46/oz >#21 - Silkolene Chain Lube w/ score 11.0 @ $0.41/oz >#22 - Yamaha Chain Lube w/ score 9.0 @ $0.43/oz > >Mark >

[Don Dotson]

--- Devon Jarvis wrote:

> I'm > guessing a dual-sport or > dirtbike o-ring chain would have WD-40 MUCH higher > on the scorecard, > since thick chain lubes just turn into grinding > paste in sand or mud. >

It is my understanding that o-ring chains need no lubrication. The o-rings keep the factory lube inside. But ya do need to keep the outside from rust and gunk. For this reason WD-40 is great. Gets rid of buggers & protects the outside from corrosion. don in UTah ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

[Devon Jarvis]

don dotson wrote:

>--- Devon Jarvis wrote: > > >>I'm >>guessing a dual-sport or >>dirtbike o-ring chain would have WD-40 MUCH higher >>on the scorecard, >>since thick chain lubes just turn into grinding >>paste in sand or mud. >> >> >> > >It is my understanding that o-ring chains need no >lubrication. The o-rings keep the factory lube >inside. But ya do need to keep the outside from rust >and gunk. For this reason WD-40 is great. Gets rid >of buggers & protects the outside from corrosion. >don in UTah > > >

Especially on the highway, WD-40 will keep the chain running cooler than it would have dry. Devon

[tebklr]

> Especially on the highway, WD-40 will keep the chain running cooler

than

> it would have dry. > > Devon

I've cleaned/rinsed it with WD-40, then lubed it with Maxima Chain Wax. Seems to work pretty well. Tom A14 KDX220