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[mark ward]

[Shane]

I just thought most of us carried a pre-oiled spare filter. In a ziplock bag, stuffed into the luggage somewhere. Never thought of actually cleaning one on the road.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "skypilot110" wrote: > > revmaaatin, you must be one of those Hotelier loving, Liberal, Pinko tree hugger, commies! > > How dare you suggest that it is not ok to simply put the filter under the hotel pillow and sleep on it so it and the matress soak up all that old oil and dirt. The raw nerve of thinking it is not ok to change your oil by pulling the plug over a storm drain near a wild bird preserve. It is hard to imagine the unmitigated gall it would take to suggest that it is in some way inapropriate to clean you chain with WD40 by simply parking the bike behind someone's rose garden and hosing it down. You would probably suggest putting an old pizza box down to catch the black goo or something. > > We will hear no more of your save the Dolphins rubish. Take it back and never dare to soil this list with you green dribble again. > > Actually, thank you for having the stones to step up and remind us that we should consider greener options to what we are doing! It was just more fun saying the other stuff. > > Chris Eckert > a.k.a. Skypilot > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > > Hey All > > > I was cleaning my filter getting ready to install my new Filter-skins, provided > > > by fred of coarse, (at a price. lol...not bad $18. for 3) > > > and being a cross between MacGyver, and Tim Taylor, I was thinking, when on a > > > trip and the filter being soaked in oil, If realy dirty, just rinse in warm > > > water (in the motel sink. shhh.) > > > > > SNIP all following > > > > Notice: names removed. cough. > > Soap-box: ON > > > > Sir- > > I must strongly disagree with this entire premise. > > I am not a wacked-out Greenie--but this idea is just wrong. > > > > If you want to do motorcycle maintenance in your motel room, have the grace to use something fully biodegradable; like NoToil (Honda and Kawi branded bio-degradable are both manufactured by NoToil) > > > > Although it was suggested that the oil would not come out of the filter with just hot water--enough comes out that it is still a mess. > > Many of the mom and pop motels are on a septic tank for grey water exhaust; septic tanks are not meant to digest carbon based petroleum. No-Toil cleaning system is septic tank friendly, lawn friendly, etc. > > > > There are reasons why motorcyclist are not 'welcome' in some places, and such conduct when noticed by owners, is one reason not to make the next motorcyclist welcome. > > > > Often, if you ask, you will be given a place to do 'spot' maintenance and even free rags if you ask vs using the motel towel for motorcycle maintenance, deeming that item no longer usable for guests. > > > > Soap box rant: OFF > > > > revmaaatin. > > >

[mark ward]

[Shane]

So leave the screwdriver behind which opens the airbox and you're all good!

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Shane" wrote: > > > I just thought most of us carried a pre-oiled spare filter. In a ziplock bag, stuffed into the luggage somewhere. Never thought of actually cleaning one on the road. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "skypilot110" wrote: > > > > revmaaatin, you must be one of those Hotelier loving, Liberal, Pinko tree hugger, commies! > > > > How dare you suggest that it is not ok to simply put the filter under the hotel pillow and sleep on it so it and the matress soak up all that old oil and dirt. The raw nerve of thinking it is not ok to change your oil by pulling the plug over a storm drain near a wild bird preserve. It is hard to imagine the unmitigated gall it would take to suggest that it is in some way inapropriate to clean you chain with WD40 by simply parking the bike behind someone's rose garden and hosing it down. You would probably suggest putting an old pizza box down to catch the black goo or something. > > > > We will hear no more of your save the Dolphins rubish. Take it back and never dare to soil this list with you green dribble again. > > > > Actually, thank you for having the stones to step up and remind us that we should consider greener options to what we are doing! It was just more fun saying the other stuff. > > > > Chris Eckert > > a.k.a. Skypilot > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > > > > Hey All > > > > I was cleaning my filter getting ready to install my new Filter-skins, provided > > > > by fred of coarse, (at a price. lol...not bad $18. for 3) > > > > and being a cross between MacGyver, and Tim Taylor, I was thinking, when on a > > > > trip and the filter being soaked in oil, If realy dirty, just rinse in warm > > > > water (in the motel sink. shhh.) > > > > > > > SNIP all following > > > > > > Notice: names removed. cough. > > > Soap-box: ON > > > > > > Sir- > > > I must strongly disagree with this entire premise. > > > I am not a wacked-out Greenie--but this idea is just wrong. > > > > > > If you want to do motorcycle maintenance in your motel room, have the grace to use something fully biodegradable; like NoToil (Honda and Kawi branded bio-degradable are both manufactured by NoToil) > > > > > > Although it was suggested that the oil would not come out of the filter with just hot water--enough comes out that it is still a mess. > > > Many of the mom and pop motels are on a septic tank for grey water exhaust; septic tanks are not meant to digest carbon based petroleum. No-Toil cleaning system is septic tank friendly, lawn friendly, etc. > > > > > > There are reasons why motorcyclist are not 'welcome' in some places, and such conduct when noticed by owners, is one reason not to make the next motorcyclist welcome. > > > > > > Often, if you ask, you will be given a place to do 'spot' maintenance and even free rags if you ask vs using the motel towel for motorcycle maintenance, deeming that item no longer usable for guests. > > > > > > Soap box rant: OFF > > > > > > revmaaatin. > > > > > >

[Bob K]

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[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "skypilot110" wrote:

> > revmaaatin, you must be one of those Hotelier loving, Liberal, Pinko tree hugger, commies! > > How dare you suggest that it is not ok to simply put the filter under the hotel pillow and sleep on it so it and the matress soak up all that old oil and dirt. The raw nerve of thinking it is not ok to change your oil by pulling the plug over a storm drain near a wild bird preserve. It is hard to imagine the unmitigated gall it would take to suggest that it is in some way inapropriate to clean you chain with WD40 by simply parking the bike behind someone's rose garden and hosing it down. You would probably suggest putting an old pizza box down to catch the black goo or something. > > We will hear no more of your save the Dolphins rubish. Take it back and never dare to soil this list with you green dribble again. > > Actually, thank you for having the stones to step up and remind us that we should consider greener options to what we are doing! It was just more fun saying the other stuff. > > Chris Eckert > a.k.a. Skypilot >

well, You get big points when you spelled my name right.... You talk about spraying your chain with WD-40, you have gone to meddling. Unfortunately, there is always seems to be some collateral damage for everything we do. sigh. revmaaatin. WD40 chain cleaning sinner, just not in the hotel room.

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, mark ward wrote:

> > It was a THEORY (Example) SIMPLIFIED! To be modified as needed. > I Still hug a few trees. > > But I'm A Inventer, A modifier, A THINKER, > It just pooped () into My head while installing the skins. > When I was a Machinest If the "engineers" had trouble with some thing the > owner came to Me. > My mind Tries to solve Issues, (good or bad) Non stop! (gift? Curse?) > > A few friends have been looking at a 2 month trip in south America ride, and we > hear of trouble while in route in the middle of no where. > what are POSIBILITIES to solve an Issue. And A Very Dirty Filter seems to be a > common one. > > If I just said, rinse with warm water, I would have heard, "where are you gonna > find Hot water in the middle of Alaska. > > Many Gas stations have special sink drains to sort the oil when they wash there > hands etc. Restarants have a tank (sump) to sort catch the grease before going > down the drain. > My first thought was, you "could" take Warm water out and over a dumpster. > But the MAIN thought was in a REAL Pinch it would work, to rince it becuase most > the dirt would leave and must the oil would stay. > > When I was 16 i had to figure out, how to change a tire, on a trailer, with No > jack. (So I just asked jill to help. lol) > > As I started out I paid for filter skins. > so I can clean them at a friends shop, where he, has the equipment to recycle > oil. >

The answer to the question--how to manage filter maintenance on the road: NoToil filter systems. One or more extra oiled filter in a baggie. Oil/cleaner moved into smaller containers. revmaaatin. who 'hugs' trees occasionally; but it hurts when still attached to the KLR

[mark ward]

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Shane" wrote:

> > > I just thought most of us carried a pre-oiled spare filter. In a ziplock bag, stuffed into the luggage somewhere. Never thought of actually cleaning one on the road.

Shane- Sounds like your ride alone, and not where there is much dust. You ever been #5 rider on 2000miles of gravel? or even on a 100 mile ride? You will suck a lot of dust. Even #2 will suck a lot of extra dirt. On a long ride, you will change filters every other day--if not more. Happy is he that is the #1/guide. Only #1 has the cleanest filter. and the whitest teeth. revmaaatin.

[Shane]

REV You are right in that I ride alone. I ride MOSTLY on road, here in the usa. I ride alone because IF I knew anyone crazy enough to do what I do, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that person. Especially on a motorcycle. Here in GringoLandia one must ride roads, the "Authorities" keep closing "Public" lands, seems there may be a bacteria or some/any critter in the soil which we would certainly kill off by riding over them. So I save the off road for Peru, where a human is actually free and responsible for him/herself. Well that and all the bikes are ORANGE there!!

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Shane" wrote: > > > > > > I just thought most of us carried a pre-oiled spare filter. In a ziplock bag, stuffed into the luggage somewhere. Never thought of actually cleaning one on the road. > > Shane- > Sounds like your ride alone, and not where there is much dust. > You ever been #5 rider on 2000miles of gravel? or even on a 100 mile ride? You will suck a lot of dust. > Even #2 will suck a lot of extra dirt. > On a long ride, you will change filters every other day--if not more. > Happy is he that is the #1/guide. > Only #1 has the cleanest filter. > and the whitest teeth. > > revmaaatin. >