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[Rick McCauley]

I agree. But I haven't seen any claims to 10,000 mile tires on a KLR yet. I don't know if i would pay triple, but i would certainly pay $50 for every additional 4,000 miles I could get from the tire. Rick A17

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Craig Kahler wrote: From: Craig Kahler Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 11:27 AM A big reason I would consider an other than stock rear tire is mileage. If there is a tire available which will provide substantially higher mileage than stock, let me know about it. I would be willing to pay up to triple the cost of a stock tire, if I only had to change it half as often. Craig Kahler --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Rick McCauley wrote: From: Rick McCauley Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: dsn_klr650@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:11 PM There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one that uses the OEM tires? The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the stock tires seem great. Rick A17 --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: "Jeff Saline" Cc: "foolstools@ gmail. com" , "DSN_KLR650@ yahoogro ups.com" Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and cattywompus. - Jeff Khoury On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > writes: > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > Dave > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Dave, > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy duty > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > which > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it will. > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > riding. > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think the > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > lighter than you fully loaded. > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals and > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > and travel in style! > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick McCauley]

I agree. But I haven't seen any claims to 10,000 mile tires on a KLR yet. I don't know if i would pay triple, but i would certainly pay $50 for every additional 4,000 miles I could get from the tire. Rick A17

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Craig Kahler wrote: From: Craig Kahler Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 11:27 AM A big reason I would consider an other than stock rear tire is mileage. If there is a tire available which will provide substantially higher mileage than stock, let me know about it. I would be willing to pay up to triple the cost of a stock tire, if I only had to change it half as often. Craig Kahler --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Rick McCauley wrote: From: Rick McCauley Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: dsn_klr650@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:11 PM There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one that uses the OEM tires? The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the stock tires seem great. Rick A17 --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: "Jeff Saline" Cc: "foolstools@ gmail. com" , "DSN_KLR650@ yahoogro ups.com" Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and cattywompus. - Jeff Khoury On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > writes: > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > Dave > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Dave, > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy duty > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > which > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it will. > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > riding. > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think the > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > lighter than you fully loaded. > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals and > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > and travel in style! > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

I switched away from the stock tire because it erased itself in a scant 5600 miles. The Metzeler has a slightly more aggressive tread design, but using the scientific "fingernail" test, it is a much harder compound and should give me a few more miles. The reason this is important to me is that I put so many miles on the bike. I've only had it since December and I already have over 6500 miles on it - commuting, touring and trail riding. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:11:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one that uses the OEM tires? The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the stock tires seem great. Rick A17 --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury < jeff@... > wrote: From: Jeff Khoury < jeff@... > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: "Jeff Saline" < salinej1@... > Cc: " foolstools@... " < foolstools@... >, " DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com " < DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and cattywompus. - Jeff Khoury On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > writes: > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > Dave > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Dave, > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy duty > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > which > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it will. > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > riding. > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think the > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > lighter than you fully loaded. > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals and > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > and travel in style! > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Gary Thacker]

I just ordered a Kenda 270 5.10 for the rear of my 07. Hope it was a good choice for on and off road. I am gonna keep the stock tire on the front for now. To many miles left in it yet. I have about 4200 on the bike. I could probably get another 1k out of the stock rear but on dirt and gravel roads it may be a better idea to change it out soon. Gary Souderton,Pa. No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~~ Abraham Lincoln To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com From: ckahleer@... Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:27:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade A big reason I would consider an other than stock rear tire is mileage. If there is a tire available which will provide substantially higher mileage than stock, let me know about it. I would be willing to pay up to triple the cost of a stock tire, if I only had to change it half as often. Craig Kahler

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Rick McCauley wrote: From: Rick McCauley Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:11 PM There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one that uses the OEM tires? The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the stock tires seem great. Rick A17 --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: "Jeff Saline" Cc: "foolstools@gmail. com" , "DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com" Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and cattywompus. - Jeff Khoury On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > writes: > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > Dave > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Dave, > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy duty > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > which > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it will. > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > riding. > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think the > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > lighter than you fully loaded. > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals and > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > and travel in style! > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photo ... are:082009 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[stevedyer@cox.net]

'Slaunchwise' and 'antigoglin' are clearly defined and widely-used engineering terms in this neck of the woods. Steve Dyer Norman, OK ---- Jeff Khoury wrote: In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and cattywompus. - Jeff Khoury

On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > writes: > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > Dave > <><><><><><><><><> > <><><><><><><><><> > > Dave, > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy duty > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > which > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it will. > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > riding. > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think the > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > lighter than you fully loaded. > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals and > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > __________________________________________________________ > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > and travel in style! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQawKgdaNapDbsbbF8htPp803slf4Bo8/ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links

[Rick McCauley]

I would like to hear how many miles you get out of the metzler, and how much did it cost? Rick A17

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: "Rick McCauley" Cc: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:43 PM I switched away from the stock tire because it erased itself in a scant 5600 miles. The Metzeler has a slightly more aggressive tread design, but using the scientific "fingernail" test, it is a much harder compound and should give me a few more miles. The reason this is important to me is that I put so many miles on the bike. I've only had it since December and I already have over 6500 miles on it - commuting, touring and trail riding. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: "dsn klr650" Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:11:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one that uses the OEM tires? The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the stock tires seem great. Rick A17 --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury < jeff@astatic. net > wrote: From: Jeff Khoury < jeff@astatic. net > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: "Jeff Saline" < salinej1@juno. com > Cc: " foolstools@gmail. com " < foolstools@gmail. com >, " DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com " < DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and cattywompus. - Jeff Khoury On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > writes: > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > Dave > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Dave, > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy duty > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > which > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it will. > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > riding. > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think the > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > lighter than you fully loaded. > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals and > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > and travel in style! > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[The Reverend]

I think you answered your own question with the last sentence. The KLR is oddly enough the bike I've ridden the least of all my bikes. I've had it little over a year and only put about 7000 miles on it (doesn't help that the Denver area gets nasty cold for six months of the year, or that good riding is so damn far away, but I digress). I do commute on mine, and I romp a bit offroad on it too, and maybe it's my riding style, but only getting about 5000-6000 miles out of a tire makes one itch for something better. Like you said though, it's based on riding style. I just put my E705 on the rear and suddenly all the weaving on the freeway is gone. Hopefully it'll be even more dramatic when the new front goes on tonight. I could maintain 90mph instead of the regular 75-80 and not break out in a panicked sweat. If this tire will give me 7000 miles for the $48 it cost me, I'll be happy. -----Original Message----- From: Rick McCauley There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one that uses the OEM tires? The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the stock tires seem great.

[Jeff Khoury]

I will keep everyone posted. I have 1200 miles or so on it now, and it is wearing well. I paid $166.00 for it using my brother's discount at Santa Monica Kawasaki. (he works for Moto-Tow and they have a company account). They can be had on the Internet for $145.00 plus shipping. - Jeff Khoury

On Aug 14, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Rick McCauley wrote: > I would like to hear how many miles you get out of the metzler, and > how much did it cost? > > Rick > A17 > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > From: Jeff Khoury > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: "Rick McCauley" > Cc: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:43 PM > > > > I switched away from the stock tire because it erased itself in a > scant 5600 miles. The Metzeler has a slightly more aggressive tread > design, but using the scientific "fingernail" test, it is a much > harder compound and should give me a few more miles. > > The reason this is important to me is that I put so many miles on > the bike. I've only had it since December and I already have over > 6500 miles on it - commuting, touring and trail riding. > > -Jeff Khoury > Astatic Solutions, LLC. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick McCauley" > To: "dsn klr650" > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:11:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > > There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one > that uses the OEM tires? > The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs > $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire > every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend > almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I > was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I > understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a > motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the > stock tires seem great. > > Rick > A17 > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury < jeff@astatic. net > wrote: > > From: Jeff Khoury < jeff@astatic. net > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: "Jeff Saline" < salinej1@juno. com > > Cc: " foolstools@gmail. com " < foolstools@gmail. com >, " > DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com " < DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM > > In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and > cattywompus. > > - > Jeff Khoury > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > > writes: > > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > > > Dave > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > > > Dave, > > > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy > duty > > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > > which > > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it > will. > > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > > riding. > > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think > the > > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > > lighter than you fully loaded. > > > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals > and > > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > > . > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > > and travel in style! > > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN > 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dooden]

Scant 5,600 miles ?? Huh Mine was toast and slick by 2,700 on the OEM Rear. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > I switched away from the stock tire because it erased itself in a scant 5600 miles. The Metzeler has a slightly more aggressive tread design, but using the scientific "fingernail" test, it is a much harder compound and should give me a few more miles. > > The reason this is important to me is that I put so many miles on the bike. I've only had it since December and I already have over 6500 miles on it - commuting, touring and trail riding. > > > > -Jeff Khoury > Astatic Solutions, LLC. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick McCauley" > To: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:11:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > > > > > > > > There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one that uses the OEM tires? > The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the stock tires seem great. > > Rick > A17 > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury < jeff@... > wrote: > > From: Jeff Khoury < jeff@... > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: "Jeff Saline" < salinej1@... > > Cc: " foolstools@... " < foolstools@... >, " DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com " < DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM > > > > In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and cattywompus. > > - > Jeff Khoury > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > > writes: > > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > > > Dave > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > > > Dave, > > > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy duty > > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > > which > > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it will. > > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > > riding. > > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think the > > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > > lighter than you fully loaded. > > > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals and > > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > > . > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > > and travel in style! > > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[dooden]

The front is was scared me the most off pavement. The Kenda 270 might scare you first time you corner it on pavement, the knobs will flex and let you know it, but has yet to let me down. K-270, about 18 psi and it will hurl mud/much/sm tree roots pretty far when given its chance. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Gary Thacker wrote: > > > I just ordered a Kenda 270 5.10 for the rear of my 07. Hope it was a good choice for on and off road. I am gonna keep the stock tire on the front for now. To many miles left in it yet. I have about 4200 on the bike. I could probably get another 1k out of the stock rear but on dirt and gravel roads it may be a better idea to change it out soon. > > Gary > > Souderton,Pa. > > No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. > Thomas Jefferson > > America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. > ~~ Abraham Lincoln > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > From: ckahleer@... > Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:27:48 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > > > > > > A big reason I would consider an other than stock rear tire is mileage. If there is a tire available which will provide substantially higher mileage than stock, let me know about it. I would be willing to pay up to triple the cost of a stock tire, if I only had to change it half as often. > > Craig Kahler > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Rick McCauley wrote: > > From: Rick McCauley > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:11 PM > > > > There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one that uses the OEM tires? > The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the stock tires seem great. > > Rick > A17 > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > From: Jeff Khoury > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: "Jeff Saline" > Cc: "foolstools@gmail. com" , "DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com" > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM > > > > In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and cattywompus. > > - > Jeff Khoury > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > > writes: > > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > > > Dave > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > > > Dave, > > > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy duty > > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > > which > > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it will. > > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > > riding. > > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think the > > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > > lighter than you fully loaded. > > > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals and > > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > > . > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > > and travel in style! > > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get free photo software from Windows Live > http://www.windowslive.com/online/photo ... are:082009 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >