nklr - old time dual sport riders

[James L. Miller Jr.]

I must have a unicorn, as I hate Santa. I never use/lose oil, unless it's upside down, leaking it out into the airbox. 2200+ mile trip this summer, no difference in level from when I left til when I got back. Mostly 4 lane superslab and 2 scenic. Of course, I rebuilt mine myself and followed the high RPM break-in proceedure "satanized" by many. millerized (just another oddity in a world of stock KLR's)

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, rm@r... wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Keith Saltzer wrote: > > >Normal oil usage, in my opinion, is ZERO. > > The KLR that doesn't burn oil is right up there with the 40hp modified > airbox/jetting/exhaust KLR, Santa, the Tooth Fairy, and unicorns. > > I used 3/4 quart riding to Florida and 1/2 quart on the way back. > > RM

[Keith Saltzer]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, rm@r... wrote:

> > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Keith Saltzer wrote: > > >Normal oil usage, in my opinion, is ZERO. > > The KLR that doesn't burn oil is right up there with the 40hp

modified

> airbox/jetting/exhaust KLR, Santa, the Tooth Fairy, and unicorns. > > I used 3/4 quart riding to Florida and 1/2 quart on the way back. > > RM

So your saying that because MOST KLR's burn oil, then that's the way it should be. That's just par for the course. It's always been easier to just go with the flow of the general population, and it always will be. I am one of those that rarely goes with the flow. I have done my homework, and I know that combustion engines were not made to burn the lubricating oil in the cases. Properly broken in, running, and tuned motors do not burn any oil. And there are some out there. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

[rm@richardmay.net]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Keith Saltzer wrote:

>So your saying that because MOST KLR's burn oil, then that's the way it >should be. That's just par for the course. It's always been easier to >just go with the flow of the general population, and it always will be. > >I am one of those that rarely goes with the flow. I have done my >homework, and I know that combustion engines were not made to burn the >lubricating oil in the cases. Properly broken in, running, and tuned >motors do not burn any oil. And there are some out there.

I reckon there are exceptions to every rule, but it's easier to acknowledge that the KLR is an oil-burner and then get on with the business of riding. If yours keeps its oil under the rings where it belongs, that's great. It's unrealistic to expect this from the majority of KLR's though. RM

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2003-12-23 12:42:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, millerized_2000@... writes:

> > I must have a unicorn, as I hate Santa. I never use/lose oil, unless > it's upside down, leaking it out into the airbox. 2200+ mile trip > this summer, no difference in level from when I left til when I got > back. Mostly 4 lane superslab and 2 scenic. Of course, I rebuilt > mine myself and followed the high RPM break-in proceedure "satanized" > by many. > millerized > (just another oddity in a world of stock KLR's) > >

Put both the KLRs I've owned in the list of oddities. I've only needed to add oil after draining same. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[klr6501995]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, kdxkawboy@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 2003-12-23 12:42:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, > millerized_2000@y... writes: > > > > > I must have a unicorn, as I hate Santa. I never use/lose oil,

unless

> > it's upside down, leaking it out into the airbox. 2200+ mile

trip

> > this summer, no difference in level from when I left til when I

got

> > back. Mostly 4 lane superslab and 2 scenic. Of course, I

rebuilt

> > mine myself and followed the high RPM break-in

proceedure "satanized"

> > by many. > > millerized > > (just another oddity in a world of stock KLR's) > > > > > > Put both the KLRs I've owned in the list of oddities. I've only

needed to add

> oil after draining same. > > Pat > G'ville, Nv > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

87 klr650 burned zero 95 motor burn ~ 4oz 2000-3000 miles if that. Always above sight glass. 98 burns .75 qt 2000miles using synthetic valvoline. using ?coastal 20w50 seems to burn less. rpm sensitive. 5k above burns. No history on the break in. Meeting the 87 1st owner I think it was broke in hard. Young 18yo 250lbs red head farm boy. 95 owner was proper gentlman. Factory method off breakin i suspect. 98 motor salvage yard with 8k. bike caught fire. No burned paint. Want a oddity. Vibration. Same frame 2 different motors. Both balancers synced (95 was off a tooth) Vibration a lot for klr. I think the vibe issues are frame related. any thoughts. sorry for hijacking the thread.

[ron criswell]

Dang! Malcom was a Vespa enthusiasts Also? I bought one with my paper route moneys in 1960 brand new. A year and a half later I sold it for junk for $25. Was not the machines fault. I just enjoyed it waaaaay too much for it's own good. And I did my own maintenance which it suffered from dearly. And let too many friends ride it (and crash it). Criswell thad_carey wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, kdxkawboy@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 2003-12-23 6:51:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > ttcarey1@t... writes: > > > > > >> > > > >>http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29723 > > > >> > > > >> Jeff Jones > > > > > > > > > > > >Now THATS what I call RIDING!!! F&%$ all this crap about you > can't > > > >do this or shouldn't do that.........go fill up the damn tank, > head > > > >out away from the general population, and ride ride ride. Let > > > >NOTHING get in your way. > > > > > > > >Those pics remind me of my 1969 Honda CB360 street bike, turned > > > dirt > > > >bike. That's what started it all for me 22 years ago. > > > > > > > >MrMoose > > > >A8 (Barbie and Ken special) > > > CB360?...Heck, Keith, you almost had a real dirt bike in that > > > steed--LOL! It reminds me of my '70 Suzuki 350 Rebel twin 2- > stroke > > > street bike. Eventually in some mad scientist mechanical haze I > > > stripped everything off of that bike in the early '70s and turned > it > > > into a dirt bike. Full knobbies, lower gearing, etc. It was > real > > > ugly...and I mean that in every aspect. > > > Thad Carey > > > A15 (but no GI Joe) > > > > > > > > > > Back when I started, about 34 years ago, if it wasn't a HD and you > could get > > knobbies on it it was a dirt bike. I counted myself among the lucky > to have a > > real dirt bike, a CT90. Friends were on JC Penny Bennelis and Sears > and > > Roebucks Puchs, street bike twins and the odd scooter - for those > too young to know, > > Malcolm SMith's first dirt bike was a Vespa. Didn't matter what > you rode, > > just the fact you chose to ride dirt. Ahh, the gold old days. > > > > Pat > > G'ville, Nv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Dang, I hate to sound like some old geezer reminiscing about the > past, but Pat, you and others talking about some of these old bikes > and first riding experiences really brings out the memories. That > Malcolm Smith/Vespa deal reminds me of my first "real" off road > experience, and I wasn't even driving. My good friend in junior high > (in the 60's) had one of those red Allstate scooters (just like a > Vespa) that he threw his paper route on. They were great for paper > routes, because your carrying bags didn't get in the wheel, spokes, > etc. They also got incredible mileage. While riding two-up on this > Allstate, we rode some fairly gnarly trails near Salado Creek in San > Antonio, Texas. You know the ground clearance on one of these > scooters. We slid and ground over rocks and dips until the thing was > nearly out of gas. It was actually kind of stupid, and I got the > cr^p scared out of me. But I was bit big time from that point on as > far as motorcycle lust. Thanks for bringing up the old Vespa deal. > I did not realize that Malcolm ever rode one of those in any off road > setting--crazy. > Thad Carey > A15 (But GI Joe's in civys) > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_klr650/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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