--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "atomck" wrote:
> POLICE STATE REPORT
> POLICE STATE REPORT
> POLICE STATE REPORT
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> As a citizen of the Police State Of Canada, I am filing my mandatory Police State report today.
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> US Gun Deaths for year 2002 through 01/04/02=== 131 people killed by guns this year to date. that's 4 >days, folks.
How many of the above deaths involved the lawful use of deadly force? Assuming some of the deaths were murders, how many of the suspects were in lawful possession of the involved firearm? I'd venture to guess that a large majority of the suspects involved in the above incidents were previously convicted felons. Those felons under the laws of most states and under the US code can not lawfully possess any firearm. Punishment is normally 2-10 years in a state prison or federal penitentiary.
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> Canadian Gun Deaths for year 2002 through 01/04/02==== 0 Yes that's right 0
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> US Gun Deaths for year 2001==== 12000 for the year. source CDC statistics
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>Canadian Gun Deaths for year 2001==== 168 for the year
>source Statistics Canada
What is conspicuously absent here are statistics for violent crimes in Canada. How do they compare with pre-ban statistics? How do total gun deaths in Canada compare with pre-ban total gun deaths? Your stated statistic is worthless, as you've presented it.
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> Read these statistics carefully. We are not allowed to carry guns in Canada. We can own them, but under very
> strict controls. We have 10% of the population of the United States, but we only have 1.5 percent of the gun
> deaths that the US has. Who is safer? The bad guys in Canada walk up to your car with a squeegee, the bad guys
>in the US walk up to your car with a Walther, or maybe a hair trigger Glock.
There's an idea...we could start a exchange your gun for a squeegee program. We wouldn't save anyone's life but we'd surely feel good about ourselves..
> I own lots of firearms, I hunt, and I own handguns. The handguns are kept at my gun club. They can be used at
> both the indoor and outdoor range. If I want to go to a competition, I have to obtain a transportation permit.
> The gun has got to be transported in a non firing mode. I prefer broken down, and in my trunk with trigger
> guard. I have rifles and shotguns, and they are legally able to be kept in my home, and taken out to hunt
> with. They have to be kept in my gun safe, with the ammunition locked away in a different place than where my
> gun safe is. Sure I have had to get permits for each gun, and I have had to obtain a firearms acquisition
> certificate. And yes the Police State of Canada knows about each and every gun. Do I like that idea? >Nope. Would I rather have >it your way? Just read the stats, and you can answer that question yourself.
The Canadian government has expressed their opinion of Candian Citizens. You obviously can not be trusted with firearms. In addition, your lives are too insignificant to warrant the possession of equal or greater force to thwart the imminent use of deadly force against you. In other words, in the event you are placed in imminent fear of serious bodily injury or death by another's illegal use of force, your existence is expendable. In the US we cherish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Denying firearms to citizens is an act of passive violence. The prohibition of firearms denies the average citizen an effective means of self-protection in the event that citizen is faced with the imminent fear of serious bodily injury or death. Free men understand free societies are not places of absolute security. As a citizen of Canada.I don't expect you to understand..
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> One more thing. If you commit a crime in Canada and use a gun while committing that crime, you go to jail for
> the gun offence. Not a reduced penalty or any plea bargain, nothing. You do two full years in prison just for
> the gun. That now includes replicas or toy guns. Threaten someone with a gun or a lookalike gun and you >are
>going to do two years. That will bring the Canadian stats down even more.
Gosh, it's also a violation of US law to unlawfully use a firearm in the commission of a crime. You're going to do much more than 2 years for introducing a firearm into whatever offense is being committed. You need to do some more homework.
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>I like guns for what they are. I don't ever think of shooting someone.
Most Americans lay awake at night fantasizing about how much fun it would be to launch a bullet out the barrel of a firearm and have that projectile make contact with a human body causing massive cavitation and penetration of skin, muscle, bone, and organs. The thought of fine particles of blood spatter painting surfaces near the victim gives most Americans sexual gratification. You Canadians surely are on the moral high ground. Expecting US citizens to be as moral as Canadians is.....well....unreasonable.
>If you had tough laws, you wouldn't
>have gangsters or gangster rappers that would even think of carrying a gun.
Gosh, we do have tough laws. Let's say for instance a person uses a firearm in the commission of a theft. That left becomes...errr..an aggravated robbery. The penalty for an aggravated robbery in the State of Texas is 20-99 years. Two thirds of that sentence must be spent in the custody of the Texas Department of Corrections. Oh, and what can happen to a person who kills someone in the commission of a robbery? In many states that person can be sentenced to death. I suppose death is not severe enough for you Canadians?
Could it be that there are cultural differences between the US and Canada. Comparing Canada with the US is just..well...naive. Let's compare the murder rates in the US with murder rates in Mexico where firearms laws are more restrictive than in Canada. As a matter of fact a Mexican citizen can be sentenced to prison for 5 years for merely possessing one bullet.
>It's a helluva lot harder to beat a man to death than it is to shoot him.
You've apparently have never met a Philippine knife fighter. Folks in our culture are going to kill each other with whatever deadly weapons are available. If firearms are prohibited bigger crooks and , or, more talented crooks, will win physical confrontations. How special.. We can revert back to might is right.
>Up here in Canada we prefer a good beating to a gunfight any day.
Ah.. so you're sadists? I've long suspected this. In the US we don't "prefer" either.
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>"If you carry it, you're one day going to want to use it." Quoted from the L.A. police chief.
What police chief? Willie? Willie failed the examination for basic peace officer in California three times after becoming the police chief of LA. The State of California even proposed dumbing down the test so that Willy could pass. Noteworthy is not a term I'd use to describe Willy. Whether it was Willy or not I hate to tell you this but folks in most areas of the US don't wait with baited breath for the next LA police chief quote.
I don't know if you're aware or not but the US is not part of Canada. I seriously doubt if US firearms effect any Canadians who do not visit the US. If you fear or are disgusted by US laws regarding firearms... Stay in Canada.
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> Tom McKenzie
> Nanaimo BC Canada
> tom@a...
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