Grill shell medallion

Duncan
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Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion

Post by Duncan » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:01 pm

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This radiator medallion is without doubt original.   Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting.  It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either.  Orange is a closer description than brown.  Not sure what the best description of the color is.  Note the dimples.   Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there.  Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color.Duncan-TC9866
On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony

Duncan
Posts: 95
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Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion

Post by Duncan » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:09 pm

I think you are thinking of the famous MG trials teams called Crackers and Cream.  The MG logo on the original TC is almost a bronze color, and definitely not red.
On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:10:15 PM PDT, Paul Huck paulhuck@bellsouth.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  actually referred to as biscuit and cream On Saturday, August 11, 2018 10:07 PM, "Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boxbe.com%2Fimages%2Flogo_dark_small.png&t=1534380910&sig=lZc1IL6yKk9.CyPktckLlw--~D[/img] [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2 ... RxcSgg--~D[/img] This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com) Add cleanup rule | More info   This radiator medallion is without doubt original.   Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting.  It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either.  Orange is a closer description than brown.  Not sure what the best description of the color is.  Note the dimples.   Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there.  Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color..Duncan-TC9866 On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony

David Lodge
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Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion

Post by David Lodge » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:09 pm

"Cream Crackers". Actually a name pinched from a Brit brand of plain - yes, you've guessed it! - crackers, manufactured by a company called Jacobs, which are like eating a dreary type of cardboard IMNSHO!
On 11 August 2018 at 21:09, Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] I think you are thinking of the famous MG trials teams called Crackers and Cream. The MG logo on the original TC is almost a bronze color, and definitely not red. On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:10:15 PM PDT, Paul Huck paulhuck@bellsouth.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: actually referred to as biscuit and cream On Saturday, August 11, 2018 10:07 PM, "Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boxbe.com%2Fimages%2Flogo_dark_small.png&t=1534380910&sig=lZc1IL6yKk9.CyPktckLlw--~D[/img] [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2 ... RxcSgg--~D[/img] This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com) Add cleanup rule | More info This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting.. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples. Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there. Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color..Duncan-TC9866 On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony

Michael Leckstein
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Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion

Post by Michael Leckstein » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:22 am

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A member of the MMM Forum posted this today, which should answer the question of color. But please note, within any series of badges the shade might have varied from year to year. The prewar specialist sell two very slightly different shades of the prewar and early T type badge as it did vary from time to time.

 

[b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]David Lodge emmgeeteesee@gmail.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, August 12, 2018 2:09 AM [b]To:[/b] Duncan [b]Cc:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com; paulhuck@bellsouth.net [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion

 

"Cream Crackers".  Actually a name pinched from a Brit brand of plain - yes, you've guessed it! - crackers, manufactured by a company called Jacobs, which are like eating a dreary type of cardboard IMNSHO!

 

On 11 August 2018 at 21:09, Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I think you are thinking of the famous MG trials teams called Crackers and Cream.  The MG logo on the original TC is almost a bronze color, and definitely not red.

 

On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:10:15 PM PDT, Paul Huck paulhuck@bellsouth.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

 

actually referred to as biscuit and cream

 

On Saturday, August 11, 2018 10:07 PM, "Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

[img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boxbe.com%2Fimages%2Flogo_dark_small.png&t=1534380910&sig=lZc1IL6yKk9.CyPktckLlw--~D[/img][img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2 ... RxcSgg--~D[/img]This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com) Add cleanup rule | More info

 

This radiator medallion is without doubt original.   Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting..  It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either.  Orange is a closer description than brown.  Not sure what the best description of the color is.  Note the dimples.  

 

Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there.  Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color..

Duncan-

TC9866

 

 

On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

 

I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony

 

 


Steve S
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Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion

Post by Steve S » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:16 am

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The attached photo is of an original 1949 badge. This is verified, as the car is an original owner and it has never been removed. The color is a bronze-brown on cream. - Steve Simmons, TC8975

Clive Sherriff
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Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion

Post by Clive Sherriff » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:18 am

OK so ~ ~ ~ >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! [/color][color=#000000]Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately !

Clive

Oxford UK.[/color]

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[color=#000000] [/color]
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] Well, this medallion is without a doubt original may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

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We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge![u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ![u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated.[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown. So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again) There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Mike[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments][u][/u][u][/u]

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This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there. Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color..[u][/u][u][/u]

Duncan-[u][/u][u][/u]

TC9866[u][/u][u][/u]

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On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u][u][/u]

I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u][u][/u]

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MGLeckstein
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Re: Grill shell medallion

Post by MGLeckstein » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:33 am

Good point. I think we should deduct 50 points for unoriginal air in the tires Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 12, 2018, at 2:17 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:
OK so ~ ~ ~  >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! [/color][color=#000000]Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately !

Clive

Oxford UK.[/color]

m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[color=#000000] [/color] On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   Well, this medallion is without a doubt original   may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge![u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ![u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated.[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown.  So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again)  There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Mike[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments][u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

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This radiator medallion is without doubt original.   Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting.  It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either.  Orange is a closer description than brown.  Not sure what the best description of the color is.  Note the dimples.  [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there.  Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color..[u][/u][u][/u]

Duncan-[u][/u][u][/u]

TC9866[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

  [u][/u][u][/u]

I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u][u][/u]


David Lodge
Posts: 156
Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:44 pm

Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion

Post by David Lodge » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:03 pm

Satire! Satire!
On 12 August 2018 at 11:17, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] OK so ~ ~ ~ >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! [/color][color=#000000]Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately !

Clive

Oxford UK.[/color]

m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[color=#000000] [/color] On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] Well, this medallion is without a doubt original may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge![u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ![u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated.[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown. So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again) There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Mike[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments][u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u][u][/u]

This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples.. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there. Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color..[u][/u][u][/u]

Duncan-[u][/u][u][/u]

TC9866[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u][u][/u]

I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u][u][/u]


Duncan
Posts: 95
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:04 pm

Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion

Post by Duncan » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:37 am

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    [*][url=file:///C:\Users\Steve\AppData\Local\PG Offline 4\Attachments\\DSC07044.JPG]DSC07044.JPG[/url]
Here is another shot of the radiator badge on the unrestored '49 TC my dad got in '52.   I would describe it as more a bronze-orange, or similar to a "popular" spray on tan.   DuncanCalifornia 
On Sunday, August 12, 2018, 9:03:19 PM PDT, David Lodge emmgeeteesee@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  Satire!  Satire! On 12 August 2018 at 11:17, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   OK so ~ ~ ~  >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! [/color]Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately !

Clive

Oxford UK.

m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[color=#000000] [/color] On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   Well, this medallion is without a doubt original   may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge![u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ![u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated.[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown.  So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again)  There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Mike[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

[b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments][u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

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This radiator medallion is without doubt original.   Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting.  It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either.  Orange is a closer description than brown.  Not sure what the best description of the color is.  Note the dimples..  [u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there..  Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color..[u][/u][u][/u]

Duncan-[u][/u][u][/u]

TC9866[u][/u][u][/u]

[u][/u] [u][/u]

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Michael Leckstein
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Re: Grill shell medallion

Post by Michael Leckstein » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:31 am

Whenever we get into color discussions, there is always a difference of opinions. I have three prewar cars with darker brown badges. I posted the note from Sports and Vintage about the lack of agreement by experts in the UK. I will note that I acquired my TC in the late 70 s and my badge is lighter, similar but not quite as orange as Duncan s.

 

I also believe that age and sunlight have an effect on color. I also think like paint batches, especially years ago, varied from batch to batch. Surely MG didn t order one batch of badges in 1929, which lasted to 1952.

 

So probably all the variations might be correct. I am sure that my 47 TC badge is not original as I replaced it back then, probably from Moss.

 

Mike

 

[b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]'jorolibb@aol.com' Jorolibb@aol.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, August 13, 2018 6:18 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion

 

Duncan,

 

So, what you're saying is,

 

[i]"[/i][i]This radiator medallion is without doubt original.   Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting.  It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either.  Orange is a closer description than brown.  Not sure what the best description of the color is.  Note the dimples..[/i][i]"[/i]

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"[i]Here is another shot of the radiator badge on the unrestored '49 TC my dad got in '52.[/i][i]"[/i][i]  [/i]

you have undeniable proof that the badge is original, although you state that your dad didn't obtain the car until it was three years old,

Hmm... without a doubt, that's a pretty bold statement.

 

John

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message----- From: Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; emmgeeteesee emmgeeteesee@gmail.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2018 3:21 pm Subject: Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [1 Attachment]

 

Here is another shot of the radiator badge on the unrestored '49 TC my dad got in '52.  

 

I would describe it as more a bronze-orange, or similar to a "popular" spray on tan.  

 

Duncan

California 

 

 

On Sunday, August 12, 2018, 9:03:19 PM PDT, David Lodge emmgeeteesee@gmail.com [mg-tabc] wrote:

 

 

 

Satire!  Satire!

 

On 12 August 2018 at 11:17, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

OK so ~ ~ ~ 

 >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen !

Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately !

Clive

Oxford UK.

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On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.c om> wrote:

 

Well, this medallion is without a doubt original   may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts.

 

 

 

We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each

 

We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners

 

offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge!

 

The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen !

 

So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering.

 

 

If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated.

 

Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown.  So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again)  There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look.

 

Mike

 

[b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.co m] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments]

 

This radiator medallion is without doubt original.   Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting.  It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either.  Orange is a closer description than brown.  Not sure what the best description of the color is.  Note the dimples...  

 

Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there..  Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color..

Duncan-

TC9866

 

 

On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.c om> wrote:

 

 

 

I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony

 

 

 


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