handbrake cable

[tonygoodall]

Hi everyone The handbrake cable on the nearside of TC 9825 seems to be too long and is on the limit of adjustment both on the cable itself and on the butterfly adjuster, the lever on the side rail being well forward of vertical, and I am not able to get adequate stopping on the rear wheel. So, has it stretched or does the clamp on the backplate offer a way of effectively shortening the cable, or do I need a new cable? Any suggestions? Tony TC9825

[Bob Butson]

Moss catalogue page 21 item 15 shows a lubricator assembly for the handbrake cable. Is this fitted to early TA's? Thanks in advance.....Bob. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bob Butson]

TA and TC handbrake cables being similar, can someone answer this question? At the end of a TA handbrake cable, from the end of the cable to towards the front of the car there is a fork, spring, washer, felt pad, and a grooved ferrule, then the outer sheath. At the point where the cable enters the backplate, where in in relation to the grooved shaped outer sheath retainer is the washer, pad and ferrule located? It seems that these three items will fit either side...Thanks....Bob.

[Clifford Knight]

It looks as though after 71 years use and "vintage" cable shorteners fitted at least 45 years ago, my handbrake cables now actually need replacing. Has anyone any experience of the repro handbrake cables currently on the market? There seem to be a big variation in price and I wondered how good/accurate reproductions they are after hearing some of the horror stories of wrong threads etc some of you guys have experienced on bits from some suppliers. My TA has the piped lubrication system - is the handbrake lube connector the same for cars with grease nipples? Reply off line if you wish to flame a supplier privately!!! Thanks Cliff (Athens, Greece) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ian Linton]

Cliff, I installed new Moss handbrake cables. They seem fine (car not on road yet) but aluminium castings are used instead of brass at the lube point. The lube system nipples are different from grease nipples - see my article on the TA lube system in TABC/Technology. I believe they are designed for EP140 oil (as rear axle) rather than grease. Regards, Ian Linton TA3120

----- Original Message ----- From: Clifford Knight To: MG-TABC Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:02 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Handbrake cable It looks as though after 71 years use and "vintage" cable shorteners fitted at least 45 years ago, my handbrake cables now actually need replacing. Has anyone any experience of the repro handbrake cables currently on the market? There seem to be a big variation in price and I wondered how good/accurate reproductions they are after hearing some of the horror stories of wrong threads etc some of you guys have experienced on bits from some suppliers. My TA has the piped lubrication system - is the handbrake lube connector the same for cars with grease nipples? Reply off line if you wish to flame a supplier privately!!! Thanks Cliff (Athens, Greece) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick Waters]

I also purchased a replacement cable for one side. I cannot recall the name of the supplier, but it too had the aluminum fittings in place of the original brass. In addition to this, the lube system, with the grease nipple, leaks grease where the fitting joins the cable, and thus I doubt if grease is getting to where it is needed. I kept the old cable, and wonder if there's a rebuilding artisan out there somewhere? -Rick, TC 7881 in Vancouver Ian Linton wrote:

> > Cliff, > > I installed new Moss handbrake cables. They seem fine (car not on road > yet) but aluminium castings are used instead of brass at the lube point. > > The lube system nipples are different from grease nipples - see my > article on the TA lube system in TABC/Technology. I believe they are > designed for EP140 oil (as rear axle) rather than grease. > > Regards, > Ian Linton TA3120 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Clifford Knight > To: MG-TABC > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:02 PM > Subject: [mg-tabc] Handbrake cable > > It looks as though after 71 years use and "vintage" cable shorteners > fitted > at least 45 years ago, my handbrake cables now actually need > replacing. Has > anyone any experience of the repro handbrake cables currently on the > market? > There seem to be a big variation in price and I wondered how good/accurate > reproductions they are after hearing some of the horror stories of wrong > threads etc some of you guys have experienced on bits from some suppliers. > My TA has the piped lubrication system - is the handbrake lube > connector the > same for cars with grease nipples? > Reply off line if you wish to flame a supplier privately!!! > Thanks > Cliff (Athens, Greece) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

[WS Hyatt]

Cliff - I noticed that Vintage Motor Parts http://www.vintagemgparts.com/brake_cables.html http://www.vintagemgparts.com/brake_cables.html%20offers%20the%20e.brake> offers the e.brake cable(s) for TC. They say are made to original factory specs M.O.L. 34 GBP ea. Have no experience with them as to reliability or quality. Bill TC 4926 Odessa, Fl. _____ From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clifford Knight Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:03 PM To: MG-TABC Subject: [mg-tabc] Handbrake cable It looks as though after 71 years use and "vintage" cable shorteners fitted at least 45 years ago, my handbrake cables now actually need replacing. Has anyone any experience of the repro handbrake cables currently on the market? There seem to be a big variation in price and I wondered how good/accurate reproductions they are after hearing some of the horror stories of wrong threads etc some of you guys have experienced on bits from some suppliers. My TA has the piped lubrication system - is the handbrake lube connector the same for cars with grease nipples? Reply off line if you wish to flame a supplier privately!!! Thanks Cliff (Athens, Greece) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[James A H Hallett]

Hi Cliff - I had replacement cables from C&C Parts in Holland, they were well made but with aluminium grease section, fit properly and installed easily. C&C also makes incredible solid bronze brake cylinders and master cylinders and excellent brake lines. They also do a bronze thermostat housing. See http://www.ccparts.nl/ Best wishes, James James A H Hallett MG TC 6902/XPAG7758 Pembroke, Bermuda JHallett@Elevado.org> JHallett@Elevado.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Roger Furneaux]

hi Cliff - I would not be surprised if many of the new cables sold by the various dealers come from the same source. As they are so cheap (around 30 squids) you can only guess where they are made They have Ali centre sections, not brass, and are plastic covered (so that could mean they are not properly plated, and will therefore rust, despite the covering). Maybe the expensive ones are UK made. We can have originals re-cabled, costing more than a new one, but at least you get yours back! Doug Pelton can supply all the greaser parts, which he gets from me, so less postage if you are in the UK (probably about equal to Greece) ocTagonally Roger

On 4 Mar 2010, at 18:02, Clifford Knight wrote: > It looks as though after 71 years use and "vintage" cable shorteners fitted > at least 45 years ago, my handbrake cables now actually need replacing. Has > anyone any experience of the repro handbrake cables currently on the market? > There seem to be a big variation in price and I wondered how good/accurate > reproductions they are after hearing some of the horror stories of wrong > threads etc some of you guys have experienced on bits from some suppliers. > My TA has the piped lubrication system - is the handbrake lube connector the > same for cars with grease nipples? > Reply off line if you wish to flame a supplier privately!!! > Thanks > Cliff (Athens, Greece) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Clifford Knight]

Thanks everyone for the answers about repro handbrake cables. It seems aluminium has replaced brass for the greaser fitting and plastic coating has replaced galvanising for the sheath, at least on many units. But no one has had any problems or been dis-satisfied. The centralised greaser fitting should have the same thread as the grease nipple from advice given. I have just ordered from www.vintagemgparts.com who have a great video of last year's Silverstone MMM race on their site. It may be worth mentioning that the new cable on UK ebay seems to have a galvanised sheath from the picture, but I prefer a plastic coat to stop all that dust sticking to the greasy outer sheath - those in wetter climates may prefer/need the galvanised. Once I have solved my immediate problem, I'll see if I can get bare cable and make up another set from my parts stock bin. Anyone tried in the past? Best wishes Cliff (Athens, Greece) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]