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Krgrife@aol.com
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Post by Krgrife@aol.com » Wed Sep 20, 2000 6:53 pm

In a message dated 9/20/00 12:06:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, MScherer@... writes: << A lot of us have had luck trading shims at the local dealer. >> Talk to the service mgr., not the parts counter kid. Kurt Grife

Fred Hink
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Post by Fred Hink » Fri Sep 22, 2000 12:09 am

[b]That would be me......  I sell an assortment of shims in the most popular sizes.  At $3.99 each they are pretty cheap compared to some dealers prices costing two or three times that much.  I have them in stock too.[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Fred[/b] [b][/b]  [b][/b] 
----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] letourn@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:00 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_klr650] Valve Shims Seems I remember reading a post where someone had purchased some sort of valve shim package.  Is there such a thing available?  I'm getting ready to do a long overdue valve check myself and would like to save myself the time of waiting for the nearest dealership to order the shims. -- ________________________ Mick LeTourneaux letourn@... Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

Andre Fiedler
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Post by Andre Fiedler » Mon Mar 05, 2001 11:49 am

Just an FYI-At our local Colorado Springs wrenching session last Saturday (thanks again, Tom), we did the 500 mile valve adjustment on my new KLR. Using Bogdan's knowledge and expertise, we determined the needed replacement shims and installed them. Bolted everything back together and then measured valve clearances again. Surprise-the clearances were actually less than they had been with the original shims. We unbolted it all again and pulled out the shims. We then carefully (with a DIGITAL Micrometer, thanks Tom and Swede) measured each shim and realized that the stamped numbers were off by several mm. Just enough to screw everything up. Luckily I had bought enough shims (thanks Fred) to go down another size to make it all work out in the end. Moral: Measure your shims before popping in the replacement ones and then do the math to determine what you need to drop down to. Don't trust those stamped numbers! Andre

Kurt Simpson
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Post by Kurt Simpson » Mon Mar 05, 2001 1:02 pm

> Moral: Measure your shims before popping in the replacement ones > and then do the math to determine what you need to drop down to. > Don't trust those stamped numbers! > > Andre
good advice and one I've always advocated... Kurt

IronJungle@Hotmail.com
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Post by IronJungle@Hotmail.com » Mon Mar 05, 2001 6:46 pm

Just wondering..... Collectively the group has probably viewed a million shims. Has anyone ever found the stamp to differ from the actual valve? I never measure them, but maybe I need to get more parinoid? Pat Austin TX
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Kurt Simpson" wrote: > > Moral: Measure your shims before popping in the replacement ones > > and then do the math to determine what you need to drop down to. > > Don't trust those stamped numbers! > > > > Andre > > good advice and one I've always advocated... > > Kurt

Bogdan Swider
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Post by Bogdan Swider » Tue Mar 06, 2001 7:19 pm

> Just wondering..... > Collectively the group has probably viewed a million shims. Has > anyone ever found the stamp to differ from the actual valve? I never > measure them, but maybe I need to get more parinoid? > > Pat > Austin TX > > >
Yeah, me last Saturday when working on Andre's bike. Both the original shim and the one we replaced it with were a bit thicker than spec. Therefore, we didn't get the desired clearance; it measured tighter than it should have. We had to go down one shim size. Bogdan, paranoid in Colorado

Michael Lipke
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Post by Michael Lipke » Sun Mar 25, 2001 3:15 pm

I heard there is a shim library. Who is the keeper?? I have 3 shims I need to trade for 3 of a different size. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Kurt Simpson (Dual Sport News)
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Post by Kurt Simpson (Dual Sport News) » Sun Mar 25, 2001 3:24 pm

It no longer exists...I donated it to a fine upstanding doctor in-training in New York City...cash poor a real hardship case...lives in Secaucus... Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Michael Lipke [mailto:lipke@...] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 2:17 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Valve shims I heard there is a shim library. Who is the keeper?? I have 3 shims I need to trade for 3 of a different size. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Andrus Chesley
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Post by Andrus Chesley » Sun Mar 25, 2001 4:05 pm

No don't know of any..... Fred is the best bet. My local dealer charged me 10 bucks a shim with a 10% discount. Some dealers swap. Mine didn't.. Andy Cajun Country

IronJungle@Hotmail.com
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Post by IronJungle@Hotmail.com » Sun Mar 25, 2001 5:11 pm

I adjust the valves on my '01 (822 miles) today. Two were out of spec (tight of course), but I loosened up one more of them up as well. So all of you that suggested I not skip this early check up, thanks! If I do say so myself, ShimCalc is one hell of a useful software program to help with the calculations and documentation. Pat Austin, TX

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