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[Ronald Criswell]

No pair here, A lot of wide open spaces where I live....suitable for 80 mph for hours and hours and hours...and no fear...! Criswell

On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:37 PM, David Critchley wrote: > I think that the big trick here is not to grow a pair, just keep the > ones you have, (assuming that they are serviceable). I think too that a > lot of the "80 mph for a 10 hour day" is a much easier thing to write > about than to accomplish. I have taken part in the "Alberta 2000" > endurance run about 8 times on my old A13, 2000 km in 24 hours, and I > understand that the KLR can do some great stuff. The people running that > affair tried to make it easier and easier, finally killing it off > altogether by "Mummyfying" it down to 1650 km, which I regret. > DC > > D Critchley > > On 15/06/2011 15:03, Jim Douglas wrote: > > It always somewhat shocks me when folks say "at 80MPH" in any post > > on a KLR as I am no way comfortable past 65MPH. I currently have a > > 2008 which is way better than the (2) others I had but still they are > > quite squirrely at that speed to me! Guess I need to either grow a > > pair or get over it! But will probably just settle on going slower which > > is hard here in TX where everyone thinks there is NO speed limit! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ronald Criswell]

Er... you have never been to Texas? Errr... West Texas? Not too much to hit...except deer. One guy told me every Sunday morning he does just that (185mph) on the road going across the road of a dam of a lake that is pretty long...in the North Dallas area and I believed him. The Lake is called Ray Roberts. Google Map it. Long, long dam.You can slow those new big sport bikes down preeeety quick if you need to. My Dad used to drive all across the Lonely Star State never getting below 100 mph on 2 ply tires, mechanical brakes, and no suspension. We lived. Sorry if you think I am full of it but I am not. You can do a hundred all day long on most Texas roads out west if the shoval ready projects have been enlightend with no problem at all (other than cops). Check yer tire pressure. Criswell

On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:01 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > Where could you go 185 mph and not rear-end somebody? At night? Now THAT'S a scary thought. > > > Maybe on a lousy road in Nevada. Watch out for potholes! > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > On 6/15/2011 2:48 PM, Ronald Criswell wrote: >> Huh.....guess different strokes for different folks. I am never a high speed type guy but I guess it is what you consider high speed. I have only had my Concours up to 110 a couple of times even though it will probably do 130-140 mph. It is expensive if the cops catch you at anything above 20 over these days. But really you really don't want to crash above 35 mph especially if you don't have proper gear on. i have had my KLR up 95 indicated a few times with street knobbies and didn't really have any issues that bothered me. The wind bothered me at first but found out if you don't have death grip on the bars, it ain't no big deal. Aie pressure at about 32 psi. As I have said before, I cruise everywhere on the highway at about 5200 rpm all day long with no problems at 54,000 miles. 700 mile days. Seems to be the sweet spot for the engine. You can actually see something in the mirrors. Every Hyabusa guy I have talked to and asked how fast they have been on those, they all say 1 >> 85-195 mph. That gives me the shudders,... but really, I was once taking to a Harley guy who said "they don't tell you what happens to you when you hit a cantaloupe truck at 120 mph on a sport bike." I told him "about the same thing when you hit one on a Harley at 60 mph with no helmet." My KLR is a 1999. Are you sure the suspension preload and everything fits you? >> >> Criswell >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Jim Douglas wrote: >> >>> It always somewhat shocks me when folks say "at 80MPH" in any post >>> on a KLR as I am no way comfortable past 65MPH. I currently have a >>> 2008 which is way better than the (2) others I had but still they are >>> quite squirrely at that speed to me! Guess I need to either grow a >>> pair or get over it! But will probably just settle on going slower which >>> is hard here in TX where everyone thinks there is NO speed limit! >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On 6/15/2011 3:56 PM, Ian Francisco wrote: >>>> I'm liking the Kenda K761 tires I recently bought. Good price! Bigger >>>> blocks, wider and deeper grooves than the Pirelli Scorpion A/T they >>>> replaced. Work great on the street and seem to work as well as this >>>> type of >>>> tire works in the dirt. Good enough on hardpack and gravel, fire roads >>>> etc. >>>> Not so good in the soft stuff; sand, silt or mud. >>>> >>>> http://kendatire.com/en/home.aspx >>>> There is a slight weave at 80+ mph with these tires that I didn't notice >>>> before. Maybe it's time to tighten the steering bearings a bit. The simple >>>> solution is to just slow down to 75 mph, which is more comfortable for me >>>> anyway. >>>> >>>> If you're looking for only street tires there are more choices. Avon >>>> Distanza, Pirelli Scorpion, Bridgestone TrailWing are all dual sport. Not >>>> sure about pure street tires. Finding a matched set in the KLR sizes might >>>> be a challenge, but I found that Bridgestone Battlax BT45 are available in >>>> the correct sizes for the KLR. They work great on my street bikes. >>>> Harley is >>>> about the only street bike running a 21 inch front these days, except for >>>> choppers. >>>> -- >>>> ian >>>> http://www.scarletfuries.com >>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 >>>> >>>> replacement tires >>>> Posted by: "klrrdr" mad1980@... >>>> klrrdr >>>> Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:47 pm (PDT) >>>> >>>> Looking to replace tires.I am currently running pure street tires. Was >>>> looking at the Metzler tourance tires. Only street no trails etc. Are >>>> these >>>> good or are there better choices for just on road? sorry for the >>>> misunderstanding. >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com >> Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map >> Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >

[RobertWichert]

I know, or at least I believe, that you are honest, Ron, but it would take a lot of good road to do 185 mph, would you agree? So your dam road is good flat no potholes road, and at least a mile or two long? And deserted? Well, I'll be dammed and moved to Texas! I "have" done 100 + mph on Highway I80 in California between SFO and SMF in the middle of the night in a car. It's pretty deserted then, but I would NOT want to be doing 185 on a moto at night. I must be chicken! I also "have" had my old bike up to ~120 mph indicated and my KLR up to 95 mph indicated without problems, other than looking for THE MAN. The fastest vehicles I have ever seen on public roads are motos on the autobahn. They just fly. I would think 150+ is not unusual, and when a bunch of them enters the autobahn and then are out of sight in seconds, they could be doing 200 mph for all I know. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 6/15/2011 4:01 PM, Ronald Criswell wrote: > > Er... you have never been to Texas? Errr... West Texas? Not too much > to hit...except deer. One guy told me every Sunday morning he does > just that (185mph) on the road going across the road of a dam of a > lake that is pretty long...in the North Dallas area and I believed > him. The Lake is called Ray Roberts. Google Map it. Long, long dam.You > can slow those new big sport bikes down preeeety quick if you need to. > My Dad used to drive all across the Lonely Star State never getting > below 100 mph on 2 ply tires, mechanical brakes, and no suspension. We > lived. Sorry if you think I am full of it but I am not. You can do a > hundred all day long on most Texas roads out west if the shoval ready > projects have been enlightend with no problem at all (other than > cops). Check yer tire pressure. > > Criswell > On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:01 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > > Where could you go 185 mph and not rear-end somebody? At night? Now > THAT'S a scary thought. > > > > > > Maybe on a lousy road in Nevada. Watch out for potholes! > > > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP > > +1 916 966 9060 > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > > > > On 6/15/2011 2:48 PM, Ronald Criswell wrote: > >> Huh.....guess different strokes for different folks. I am never a > high speed type guy but I guess it is what you consider high speed. I > have only had my Concours up to 110 a couple of times even though it > will probably do 130-140 mph. It is expensive if the cops catch you at > anything above 20 over these days. But really you really don't want to > crash above 35 mph especially if you don't have proper gear on. i have > had my KLR up 95 indicated a few times with street knobbies and didn't > really have any issues that bothered me. The wind bothered me at first > but found out if you don't have death grip on the bars, it ain't no > big deal. Aie pressure at about 32 psi. As I have said before, I > cruise everywhere on the highway at about 5200 rpm all day long with > no problems at 54,000 miles. 700 mile days. Seems to be the sweet spot > for the engine. You can actually see something in the mirrors. Every > Hyabusa guy I have talked to and asked how fast they have been on > those, they all say 1 > >> 85-195 mph. That gives me the shudders,... but really, I was once > taking to a Harley guy who said "they don't tell you what happens to > you when you hit a cantaloupe truck at 120 mph on a sport bike." I > told him "about the same thing when you hit one on a Harley at 60 mph > with no helmet." My KLR is a 1999. Are you sure the suspension preload > and everything fits you? > >> > >> Criswell > >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Jim Douglas wrote: > >> > >>> It always somewhat shocks me when folks say "at 80MPH" in any post > >>> on a KLR as I am no way comfortable past 65MPH. I currently have a > >>> 2008 which is way better than the (2) others I had but still they are > >>> quite squirrely at that speed to me! Guess I need to either grow a > >>> pair or get over it! But will probably just settle on going slower > which > >>> is hard here in TX where everyone thinks there is NO speed limit! > >>> > >>> Jim > >>> > >>> On 6/15/2011 3:56 PM, Ian Francisco wrote: > >>>> I'm liking the Kenda K761 tires I recently bought. Good price! Bigger > >>>> blocks, wider and deeper grooves than the Pirelli Scorpion A/T they > >>>> replaced. Work great on the street and seem to work as well as this > >>>> type of > >>>> tire works in the dirt. Good enough on hardpack and gravel, fire > roads > >>>> etc. > >>>> Not so good in the soft stuff; sand, silt or mud. > >>>> > >>>> http://kendatire.com/en/home.aspx > >>>> There is a slight weave at 80+ mph with these tires that I didn't > notice > >>>> before. Maybe it's time to tighten the steering bearings a bit. > The simple > >>>> solution is to just slow down to 75 mph, which is more > comfortable for me > >>>> anyway. > >>>> > >>>> If you're looking for only street tires there are more choices. Avon > >>>> Distanza, Pirelli Scorpion, Bridgestone TrailWing are all dual > sport. Not > >>>> sure about pure street tires. Finding a matched set in the KLR > sizes might > >>>> be a challenge, but I found that Bridgestone Battlax BT45 are > available in > >>>> the correct sizes for the KLR. They work great on my street bikes. > >>>> Harley is > >>>> about the only street bike running a 21 inch front these days, > except for > >>>> choppers. > >>>> -- > >>>> ian > >>>> http://www.scarletfuries.com > >>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > >>>> > >>>> replacement tires > >>>> Posted by: "klrrdr" mad1980@... > > >>>> klrrdr > >>>> Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:47 pm (PDT) > >>>> > >>>> Looking to replace tires.I am currently running pure street > tires. Was > >>>> looking at the Metzler tourance tires. Only street no trails etc. Are > >>>> these > >>>> good or are there better choices for just on road? sorry for the > >>>> misunderstanding. > >>>> > >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>> > >>>> > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> > >> List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > >> Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >> Member Map: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > >> Group Apps: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ronald Criswell]

I believe if you research google maps the dam at Ray Roberts Lake in north Texas is roughly 3 miles long. Now lets see, how long does it take to get a Hyabusa up to top speed....not that long. So .....anyway.....if you want to ride fast.....maybe I am on the wrong motorcycle....because when you go over 65 mph....bad things happen to girly, girly.....folks, maybe I need another bike. I have rode this one for 11 years......unafraid....., way above 65. I feel macho. I even wave to to other folks along the way with one hand off the bars.....on a windy day. i live for danger. Criswell

On Jun 15, 2011, at 7:28 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > I know, or at least I believe, that you are honest, Ron, but it would > take a lot of good road to do 185 mph, would you agree? So your dam > road is good flat no potholes road, and at least a mile or two long? > And deserted? > Well, I'll be dammed and moved to Texas! > > I "have" done 100 + mph on Highway I80 in California between SFO and SMF > in the middle of the night in a car. It's pretty deserted then, but I > would NOT want to be doing 185 on a moto at night. I must be chicken! > I also "have" had my old bike up to ~120 mph indicated and my KLR up to > 95 mph indicated without problems, other than looking for THE MAN. > > The fastest vehicles I have ever seen on public roads are motos on the > autobahn. They just fly. I would think 150+ is not unusual, and when a > bunch of them enters the autobahn and then are out of sight in seconds, > they could be doing 200 mph for all I know. > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > =============================================== > > On 6/15/2011 4:01 PM, Ronald Criswell wrote: > > > > Er... you have never been to Texas? Errr... West Texas? Not too much > > to hit...except deer. One guy told me every Sunday morning he does > > just that (185mph) on the road going across the road of a dam of a > > lake that is pretty long...in the North Dallas area and I believed > > him. The Lake is called Ray Roberts. Google Map it. Long, long dam.You > > can slow those new big sport bikes down preeeety quick if you need to. > > My Dad used to drive all across the Lonely Star State never getting > > below 100 mph on 2 ply tires, mechanical brakes, and no suspension. We > > lived. Sorry if you think I am full of it but I am not. You can do a > > hundred all day long on most Texas roads out west if the shoval ready > > projects have been enlightend with no problem at all (other than > > cops). Check yer tire pressure. > > > > Criswell > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:01 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > > > > Where could you go 185 mph and not rear-end somebody? At night? Now > > THAT'S a scary thought. > > > > > > > > > Maybe on a lousy road in Nevada. Watch out for potholes! > > > > > > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP > > > +1 916 966 9060 > > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > > > > > > > On 6/15/2011 2:48 PM, Ronald Criswell wrote: > > >> Huh.....guess different strokes for different folks. I am never a > > high speed type guy but I guess it is what you consider high speed. I > > have only had my Concours up to 110 a couple of times even though it > > will probably do 130-140 mph. It is expensive if the cops catch you at > > anything above 20 over these days. But really you really don't want to > > crash above 35 mph especially if you don't have proper gear on. i have > > had my KLR up 95 indicated a few times with street knobbies and didn't > > really have any issues that bothered me. The wind bothered me at first > > but found out if you don't have death grip on the bars, it ain't no > > big deal. Aie pressure at about 32 psi. As I have said before, I > > cruise everywhere on the highway at about 5200 rpm all day long with > > no problems at 54,000 miles. 700 mile days. Seems to be the sweet spot > > for the engine. You can actually see something in the mirrors. Every > > Hyabusa guy I have talked to and asked how fast they have been on > > those, they all say 1 > > >> 85-195 mph. That gives me the shudders,... but really, I was once > > taking to a Harley guy who said "they don't tell you what happens to > > you when you hit a cantaloupe truck at 120 mph on a sport bike." I > > told him "about the same thing when you hit one on a Harley at 60 mph > > with no helmet." My KLR is a 1999. Are you sure the suspension preload > > and everything fits you? > > >> > > >> Criswell > > >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Jim Douglas wrote: > > >> > > >>> It always somewhat shocks me when folks say "at 80MPH" in any post > > >>> on a KLR as I am no way comfortable past 65MPH. I currently have a > > >>> 2008 which is way better than the (2) others I had but still they are > > >>> quite squirrely at that speed to me! Guess I need to either grow a > > >>> pair or get over it! But will probably just settle on going slower > > which > > >>> is hard here in TX where everyone thinks there is NO speed limit! > > >>> > > >>> Jim > > >>> > > >>> On 6/15/2011 3:56 PM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > >>>> I'm liking the Kenda K761 tires I recently bought. Good price! Bigger > > >>>> blocks, wider and deeper grooves than the Pirelli Scorpion A/T they > > >>>> replaced. Work great on the street and seem to work as well as this > > >>>> type of > > >>>> tire works in the dirt. Good enough on hardpack and gravel, fire > > roads > > >>>> etc. > > >>>> Not so good in the soft stuff; sand, silt or mud. > > >>>> > > >>>> http://kendatire.com/en/home.aspx > > >>>> There is a slight weave at 80+ mph with these tires that I didn't > > notice > > >>>> before. Maybe it's time to tighten the steering bearings a bit. > > The simple > > >>>> solution is to just slow down to 75 mph, which is more > > comfortable for me > > >>>> anyway. > > >>>> > > >>>> If you're looking for only street tires there are more choices. Avon > > >>>> Distanza, Pirelli Scorpion, Bridgestone TrailWing are all dual > > sport. Not > > >>>> sure about pure street tires. Finding a matched set in the KLR > > sizes might > > >>>> be a challenge, but I found that Bridgestone Battlax BT45 are > > available in > > >>>> the correct sizes for the KLR. They work great on my street bikes. > > >>>> Harley is > > >>>> about the only street bike running a 21 inch front these days, > > except for > > >>>> choppers. > > >>>> -- > > >>>> ian > > >>>> http://www.scarletfuries.com > > >>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > >>>> > > >>>> replacement tires > > >>>> Posted by: "klrrdr" mad1980@... > > > > >>>> klrrdr > > >>>> Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:47 pm (PDT) > > >>>> > > >>>> Looking to replace tires.I am currently running pure street > > tires. Was > > >>>> looking at the Metzler tourance tires. Only street no trails etc. Are > > >>>> these > > >>>> good or are there better choices for just on road? sorry for the > > >>>> misunderstanding. > > >>>> > > >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------ > > >> > > >> List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > > >> Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >> Member Map: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > > >> Group Apps: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > > Groups Links > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mechanizeinc]

I have been riding the D606s 34psi front and back. 90% street commuting their entire life it seems. long runs to other towns on stock gearing at 6K to 7000 rpm. No speedo so I don't know exact speed but think'n 75 to 85. It's windy in central Texas. I have no turn signals yet, so I indicate by hand and finger. I don't run a headlight cowl/fairing I think the bike wants to shake a bit but as someone said, slide back on the saddle a bit and make 'er squat for speed Sand and mud too The wind from the hills or the vehicles seem battering between 65 and 70 But at 75 you're punching a hole through the denser air anyhow so it minimizes the other effects. The rear 606 is not going to make it 4000 miles... maybe not 3. Mech

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ian Francisco wrote: > > I'm liking the Kenda K761 tires I recently bought. Good price! Bigger > blocks, wider and deeper grooves than the Pirelli Scorpion A/T they > replaced. Work great on the street and seem to work as well as this type of > tire works in the dirt. Good enough on hardpack and gravel, fire roads etc. > Not so good in the soft stuff; sand, silt or mud. > > http://kendatire.com/en/home.aspx > There is a slight weave at 80+ mph with these tires that I didn't notice > before. Maybe it's time to tighten the steering bearings a bit. The simple > solution is to just slow down to 75 mph, which is more comfortable for me > anyway. > > If you're looking for only street tires there are more choices. Avon > Distanza, Pirelli Scorpion, Bridgestone TrailWing are all dual sport. Not > sure about pure street tires. Finding a matched set in the KLR sizes might > be a challenge, but I found that Bridgestone Battlax BT45 are available in > the correct sizes for the KLR. They work great on my street bikes. Harley is > about the only street bike running a 21 inch front these days, except for > choppers. > -- > ian > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > replacement tires > Posted by: "klrrdr" mad1980@... klrrdr > Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:47 pm (PDT) > > Looking to replace tires.I am currently running pure street tires. Was > looking at the Metzler tourance tires. Only street no trails etc. Are these > good or are there better choices for just on road? sorry for the > misunderstanding. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Jeff Khoury]

If you've never ridden a modern sportbike, I suggest you give it a try at least once. These are not your father's KZ1000, not even close. It will open your eyes to exactly what acceleration feels like. A bone stock R1 with a decent rider will run under 10 seconds in the 1/4 mile at over 140MPH. Hayabusas are a little faster and are easier to keep the front end on the ground, but don't handle as well in the twisties. Outside of fighter jets and top-fuel dragsters that's as fast as *%&$ gets. That 80MPH we were talking about can literally be achieved in first gear in 3 seconds and change. As fast as it goes, it stops just as fast. Be mindful of grabbing that front brake though, that is unless you're actually trying to do a "stoppie". 150MPH on an R1 feels like 80 on the KLR. The difference in high-speed stability is astounding. Once you're under 50MPH, the KLR will start feeling more responsive than a sportbike, leading to the new supermoto craze. Up on Mulholland you'll see guys on DRZ400SMs eating the lunches of 600 and 1000cc sportbikes. As soon as the road opens up though, the sporties are gone and they're left eating dust and exhaust. That being said, speeds like that are a young man's game. I picked up a DL1000 because I wanted something in-between the KLR and a sport bike. I'd ridden a SV1000S and absolutely LOVED it and figured a more comfy version of that bike would be just the ticket. It accelerates fast enough to outrun any car on the road except a few exotics and cruises at speeds measured in 3 digits just as easily as the KLR does at 65. I don't go that fast very often, but it is nice to know where your ceiling is. -Jeff Khoury From: "mechanizeinc" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:03:30 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tires I have been riding the D606s 34psi front and back. 90% street commuting their entire life it seems. long runs to other towns on stock gearing at 6K to 7000 rpm. No speedo so I don't know exact speed but think'n 75 to 85. It's windy in central Texas. I have no turn signals yet, so I indicate by hand and finger. I don't run a headlight cowl/fairing I think the bike wants to shake a bit but as someone said, slide back on the saddle a bit and make 'er squat for speed Sand and mud too The wind from the hills or the vehicles seem battering between 65 and 70 But at 75 you're punching a hole through the denser air anyhow so it minimizes the other effects. The rear 606 is not going to make it 4000 miles... maybe not 3. Mech

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , Ian Francisco wrote: > > I'm liking the Kenda K761 tires I recently bought. Good price! Bigger > blocks, wider and deeper grooves than the Pirelli Scorpion A/T they > replaced. Work great on the street and seem to work as well as this type of > tire works in the dirt. Good enough on hardpack and gravel, fire roads etc. > Not so good in the soft stuff; sand, silt or mud. > > http://kendatire.com/en/home.aspx > There is a slight weave at 80+ mph with these tires that I didn't notice > before. Maybe it's time to tighten the steering bearings a bit. The simple > solution is to just slow down to 75 mph, which is more comfortable for me > anyway. > > If you're looking for only street tires there are more choices. Avon > Distanza, Pirelli Scorpion, Bridgestone TrailWing are all dual sport. Not > sure about pure street tires. Finding a matched set in the KLR sizes might > be a challenge, but I found that Bridgestone Battlax BT45 are available in > the correct sizes for the KLR. They work great on my street bikes. Harley is > about the only street bike running a 21 inch front these days, except for > choppers. > -- > ian > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > replacement tires > Posted by: "klrrdr" mad1980@... klrrdr > Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:47 pm (PDT) > > Looking to replace tires.I am currently running pure street tires. Was > looking at the Metzler tourance tires. Only street no trails etc. Are these > good or are there better choices for just on road? sorry for the > misunderstanding. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[judjonzz]

While it is true that the KLR lacks the solid, planted feel of ,say, a Moto Guzzi at speed, there is no reason it should be frightening. It is always going to move around some; that is its nature. But if it is actually scaring you, there may be something wrong with the bike's setup: insufficient spring preload, loose steering head, swing arm bearings, wheel bearings, tire pressures, spoke tension, overloading. That said, the KLR is at its best around 65. You can run faster, but 65 is more comfortable. If you are trying to make some miles, 60-65 will probably give you the most in a day.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jim Douglas wrote: > > It always somewhat shocks me when folks say "at 80MPH" in any post > on a KLR as I am no way comfortable past 65MPH. I currently have a > 2008 which is way better than the (2) others I had but still they are > quite squirrely at that speed to me! Guess I need to either grow a > pair or get over it! But will probably just settle on going slower which > is hard here in TX where everyone thinks there is NO speed limit! > > > Jim > > On 6/15/2011 3:56 PM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > > > I'm liking the Kenda K761 tires I recently bought. Good price! Bigger > > blocks, wider and deeper grooves than the Pirelli Scorpion A/T they > > replaced. Work great on the street and seem to work as well as this > > type of > > tire works in the dirt. Good enough on hardpack and gravel, fire roads > > etc. > > Not so good in the soft stuff; sand, silt or mud. > > > > http://kendatire.com/en/home.aspx > > There is a slight weave at 80+ mph with these tires that I didn't notice > > before. Maybe it's time to tighten the steering bearings a bit. The simple > > solution is to just slow down to 75 mph, which is more comfortable for me > > anyway. > > > > If you're looking for only street tires there are more choices. Avon > > Distanza, Pirelli Scorpion, Bridgestone TrailWing are all dual sport. Not > > sure about pure street tires. Finding a matched set in the KLR sizes might > > be a challenge, but I found that Bridgestone Battlax BT45 are available in > > the correct sizes for the KLR. They work great on my street bikes. > > Harley is > > about the only street bike running a 21 inch front these days, except for > > choppers. > > -- > > ian > > http://www.scarletfuries.com > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > > > replacement tires > > Posted by: "klrrdr" mad1980@... > > klrrdr > > Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:47 pm (PDT) > > > > Looking to replace tires.I am currently running pure street tires. Was > > looking at the Metzler tourance tires. Only street no trails etc. Are > > these > > good or are there better choices for just on road? sorry for the > > misunderstanding. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Jud]

I have never done 185 either, but there are lots of places, especially in the desert, where it should be doable in relative safety. What you need is a bike with the power and road manners to do it. There are several available on the market today. Then you need optokinetic reflexes that are quick enough to allow you to ride that fast. Usually, a bit of fast riding will bring your eye reflexes up to speed, but there are also tricks to stimulate them artificially. I have done 135 on a number of occasions. Do it long enough for the optokinetics to get up to speed, and 135 will seem slow. I'd bet the same thing will happen at 185.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > I know, or at least I believe, that you are honest, Ron, but it would > take a lot of good road to do 185 mph, would you agree? So your dam > road is good flat no potholes road, and at least a mile or two long? > And deserted? > Well, I'll be dammed and moved to Texas! > > I "have" done 100 + mph on Highway I80 in California between SFO and SMF > in the middle of the night in a car. It's pretty deserted then, but I > would NOT want to be doing 185 on a moto at night. I must be chicken! > I also "have" had my old bike up to ~120 mph indicated and my KLR up to > 95 mph indicated without problems, other than looking for THE MAN. > > The fastest vehicles I have ever seen on public roads are motos on the > autobahn. They just fly. I would think 150+ is not unusual, and when a > bunch of them enters the autobahn and then are out of sight in seconds, > they could be doing 200 mph for all I know. > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > On 6/15/2011 4:01 PM, Ronald Criswell wrote: > > > > Er... you have never been to Texas? Errr... West Texas? Not too much > > to hit...except deer. One guy told me every Sunday morning he does > > just that (185mph) on the road going across the road of a dam of a > > lake that is pretty long...in the North Dallas area and I believed > > him. The Lake is called Ray Roberts. Google Map it. Long, long dam.You > > can slow those new big sport bikes down preeeety quick if you need to. > > My Dad used to drive all across the Lonely Star State never getting > > below 100 mph on 2 ply tires, mechanical brakes, and no suspension. We > > lived. Sorry if you think I am full of it but I am not. You can do a > > hundred all day long on most Texas roads out west if the shoval ready > > projects have been enlightend with no problem at all (other than > > cops). Check yer tire pressure. > > > > Criswell > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:01 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > > > > Where could you go 185 mph and not rear-end somebody? At night? Now > > THAT'S a scary thought. > > > > > > > > > Maybe on a lousy road in Nevada. Watch out for potholes! > > > > > > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP > > > +1 916 966 9060 > > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > > > > > > > On 6/15/2011 2:48 PM, Ronald Criswell wrote: > > >> Huh.....guess different strokes for different folks. I am never a > > high speed type guy but I guess it is what you consider high speed. I > > have only had my Concours up to 110 a couple of times even though it > > will probably do 130-140 mph. It is expensive if the cops catch you at > > anything above 20 over these days. But really you really don't want to > > crash above 35 mph especially if you don't have proper gear on. i have > > had my KLR up 95 indicated a few times with street knobbies and didn't > > really have any issues that bothered me. The wind bothered me at first > > but found out if you don't have death grip on the bars, it ain't no > > big deal. Aie pressure at about 32 psi. As I have said before, I > > cruise everywhere on the highway at about 5200 rpm all day long with > > no problems at 54,000 miles. 700 mile days. Seems to be the sweet spot > > for the engine. You can actually see something in the mirrors. Every > > Hyabusa guy I have talked to and asked how fast they have been on > > those, they all say 1 > > >> 85-195 mph. That gives me the shudders,... but really, I was once > > taking to a Harley guy who said "they don't tell you what happens to > > you when you hit a cantaloupe truck at 120 mph on a sport bike." I > > told him "about the same thing when you hit one on a Harley at 60 mph > > with no helmet." My KLR is a 1999. Are you sure the suspension preload > > and everything fits you? > > >> > > >> Criswell > > >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Jim Douglas wrote: > > >> > > >>> It always somewhat shocks me when folks say "at 80MPH" in any post > > >>> on a KLR as I am no way comfortable past 65MPH. I currently have a > > >>> 2008 which is way better than the (2) others I had but still they are > > >>> quite squirrely at that speed to me! Guess I need to either grow a > > >>> pair or get over it! But will probably just settle on going slower > > which > > >>> is hard here in TX where everyone thinks there is NO speed limit! > > >>> > > >>> Jim > > >>> > > >>> On 6/15/2011 3:56 PM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > >>>> I'm liking the Kenda K761 tires I recently bought. Good price! Bigger > > >>>> blocks, wider and deeper grooves than the Pirelli Scorpion A/T they > > >>>> replaced. Work great on the street and seem to work as well as this > > >>>> type of > > >>>> tire works in the dirt. Good enough on hardpack and gravel, fire > > roads > > >>>> etc. > > >>>> Not so good in the soft stuff; sand, silt or mud. > > >>>> > > >>>> http://kendatire.com/en/home.aspx > > >>>> There is a slight weave at 80+ mph with these tires that I didn't > > notice > > >>>> before. Maybe it's time to tighten the steering bearings a bit. > > The simple > > >>>> solution is to just slow down to 75 mph, which is more > > comfortable for me > > >>>> anyway. > > >>>> > > >>>> If you're looking for only street tires there are more choices. Avon > > >>>> Distanza, Pirelli Scorpion, Bridgestone TrailWing are all dual > > sport. Not > > >>>> sure about pure street tires. Finding a matched set in the KLR > > sizes might > > >>>> be a challenge, but I found that Bridgestone Battlax BT45 are > > available in > > >>>> the correct sizes for the KLR. They work great on my street bikes. > > >>>> Harley is > > >>>> about the only street bike running a 21 inch front these days, > > except for > > >>>> choppers. > > >>>> -- > > >>>> ian > > >>>> http://www.scarletfuries.com > > >>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > >>>> > > >>>> replacement tires > > >>>> Posted by: "klrrdr" mad1980@... > > > > >>>> klrrdr > > >>>> Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:47 pm (PDT) > > >>>> > > >>>> Looking to replace tires.I am currently running pure street > > tires. Was > > >>>> looking at the Metzler tourance tires. Only street no trails etc. Are > > >>>> these > > >>>> good or are there better choices for just on road? sorry for the > > >>>> misunderstanding. > > >>>> > > >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------ > > >> > > >> List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > > >> Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >> Member Map: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > > >> Group Apps: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > > Groups Links > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Ian Francisco]

I'm about to replace the rear Kenda K761 on my A14. It lasted 8k miles and has more to go but the fun factor is long gone. It's almost as sawtoothed as the front was at 7k miles when I replaced it with a TKC80. The sawtooth effect is on the shoulders from trailbraking into corners. Since I don't do enough offroading the TKC80 was wishful thinking but I'm hoping to get at least 7k out of it on mostly pavement. But most reviews say the rear TKC80 is only good for about 4k miles, which makes it a bit spendy. The combination of new TKC80 front and well-worn K761 rear is not stable at speeds greater than 75mph. The bike dances on the interstate rain grooves like Carmen Miranda. So far the set of Pirelli Scorpion A/T were the best on the slab and in the twisties. The K761s were not bad for the money when new but I was made painfully aware of how much I had slowed down on them last time I did a group ride. I was the leader and Cliff who video'ed me said he was using his brakes more than usual. At the time the front had 6k and the rear about 7k . So, what to get for the rear? I want a TKC80 but figure if I get one I'll just be asking the same question again in 4k miles. I hear the Distancias are even worse than the Slipsters in anything loose. The K761 was not bad for the money. I liked the rear much better than the front. Might have to try a Shinko 705 now. -- ian http://www.scarletfuries.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarl ... 1218125931 Re: Tires?http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR65 ... TU- by: "Jeff Khoury" jeff@... DsrtEgl http://profiles.yahoo.com/DsrtEgl>Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:32 am (PDT) I have run 705s on the KLR and the DL1000. They're very good tires. They are the best "high-speed handlers" of any tire I've had on the KLR and they're fairly good on fire roads, etc. You can literally drag pegs on the slab without any compunction at all. They last pretty well but not as well as the K761. Here's a pic of their dry handling. http://www.facebook**.com/photo.**php?fbid=**2860408705624&**l=c887ddef6d I've never run the Distanzias. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Criswell" > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:47:00 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Tires? Sent from my iPad Anybody try any Shinko 705 tires or the Avon Distancia's? I am going to need tires on my Versys soon and was thinking of getting something better for dirt, gravel and wet roads. Criswell [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RobertWichert]

I got more than 6K on a TKC 80 rear. I "may" be able to find out exactly how much, but I'm pretty sure it was more than 4K. I ride mostly on the street, but I like being able to go through anything, and I find that the TKC 80 can do it all. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 3/13/2012 11:20 AM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > I'm about to replace the rear Kenda K761 on my A14. It lasted 8k miles and > has more to go but the fun factor is long gone. It's almost as sawtoothed > as the front was at 7k miles when I replaced it with a TKC80. The sawtooth > effect is on the shoulders from trailbraking into corners. Since I > don't do > enough offroading the TKC80 was wishful thinking but I'm hoping to get at > least 7k out of it on mostly pavement. But most reviews say the rear TKC80 > is only good for about 4k miles, which makes it a bit spendy. The > combination of new TKC80 front and well-worn K761 rear is not stable at > speeds greater than 75mph. The bike dances on the interstate rain grooves > like Carmen Miranda. So far the set of Pirelli Scorpion A/T were the best > on the slab and in the twisties. The K761s were not bad for the money when > new but I was made painfully aware of how much I had slowed down on them > last time I did a group ride. I was the leader and Cliff who video'ed me > said he was using his brakes more than usual. At the time the front had 6k > and the rear about 7k . > > So, what to get for the rear? I want a TKC80 but figure if I get one I'll > just be asking the same question again in 4k miles. I hear the Distancias > are even worse than the Slipsters in anything loose. The K761 was not bad > for the money. I liked the rear much better than the front. Might have to > try a Shinko 705 now. > -- > ian > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarl ... 1218125931 > > Re: > Tires?http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR65 ... TU- > by: "Jeff Khoury" jeff@... > ?Subject=+Re%3A%20Tires%3F> > DsrtEgl http://profiles.yahoo.com/DsrtEgl>Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:32 am (PDT) > > I have run 705s on the KLR and the DL1000. They're very good tires. They > are the best "high-speed handlers" of any tire I've had on the KLR and > they're fairly good on fire roads, etc. > > You can literally drag pegs on the slab without any compunction at all. > They last pretty well but not as well as the K761. > > Here's a pic of their dry handling. > > http://www.facebook**.com/photo.**php?fbid=**2860408705624&**l=c887ddef6d > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... c887ddef6d>> > > I've never run the Distanzias. > > -Jeff Khoury > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Criswell" > > > > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:47:00 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Tires? > > Sent from my iPad > Anybody try any Shinko 705 tires or the Avon Distancia's? I am going to > need tires on my Versys soon and was thinking of getting something better > for dirt, gravel and wet roads. > > Criswell > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]