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skypilot110
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thermobob and why i think it's a "bad idea"(tm)

Post by skypilot110 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:30 am

Call it a compromise but my klr climbed out of the pools to pass a lot of expensive euro bikes at the Roaming Rally this year. I put my bike through some water holes that ate every KTM and Husky that hit them. The BMWs did ok but the BMW riders weren't all up to the task in some of the wet spots. No KLR got drowned although I did cool mine off once enough that I though I had wet wires. Once I hit the chock I was fine. me riding through http://skypilot.smugmug.com/Other/Roamingrally2011/i-7M62F88/0/XL/IMG2818-XL.jpg The KTM version of riding through. There was another KTM and a Husky dead on the other side too :-) http://skypilot.smugmug.com/Other/Roamingrally2011/i-fvMj8X2/0/XL/IMG2828-XL.jpg
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Landmann wrote: > > Interesting! Now I no longer feel guilty for being too cheap to buy a T-Bob. > :-) > > There is at least a compelling argument against. > > Generally, I am in the camp that says the KLR, being a compromise, does > nothing exceptionally well, but quite a lot "acceptably well". >

Jeff Khoury
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Post by Jeff Khoury » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:37 am

Excellent picture. I've had mine almost - but not quite - that deep in Azusa Canyon OHV park (http://www.ohvguide.com/maps/azusacanyon.htm). It never complained once about the water. The deep gravel was "interesting" to say the least. My brother's YZ just "floated" across the top of it. The KLR had to plow its way through. No spills though, I managed to stay upright the whole time. -Jeff Khoury From: "skypilot110" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:30:22 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ThermoBob and why I think it's a "Bad Idea"(tm) Call it a compromise but my klr climbed out of the pools to pass a lot of expensive euro bikes at the Roaming Rally this year. I put my bike through some water holes that ate every KTM and Husky that hit them. The BMWs did ok but the BMW riders weren't all up to the task in some of the wet spots. No KLR got drowned although I did cool mine off once enough that I though I had wet wires. Once I hit the chock I was fine. me riding through http://skypilot.smugmug.com/Other/Roamingrally2011/i-7M62F88/0/XL/IMG2818-XL.jpg The KTM version of riding through. There was another KTM and a Husky dead on the other side too :-) http://skypilot.smugmug.com/Other/Roamingrally2011/i-fvMj8X2/0/XL/IMG2828-XL.jpg
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , Thomas Landmann wrote: > > Interesting! Now I no longer feel guilty for being too cheap to buy a T-Bob. > :-) > > There is at least a compelling argument against. > > Generally, I am in the camp that says the KLR, being a compromise, does > nothing exceptionally well, but quite a lot "acceptably well". > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Eckert, Christopher (Infrastructure Solut

thermobob and why i think it's a "bad idea"(tm)

Post by Eckert, Christopher (Infrastructure Solut » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:08 am

I put the 08 KLR into water to the top of the seat once. Short section but it climbed out with no problem I shut it off as soon as I was out to let the airbox drain, just in case. Ottawa was different. There were huge water sections unlike anything I have ever seen. I cant wait to go back ________________________________ From: Jeff Khoury [mailto:jeff@...] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:04 AM To: Eckert, Christopher (Infrastructure Solutions Dept.) Cc: DSN KLR650 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ThermoBob and why I think it's a "Bad Idea"(tm) Excellent picture. I've had mine almost - but not quite - that deep in Azusa Canyon OHV park (http://www.ohvguide.com/maps/azusacanyon.htm). It never complained once about the water. The deep gravel was "interesting" to say the least. My brother's YZ just "floated" across the top of it. The KLR had to plow its way through. No spills though, I managed to stay upright the whole time. ************************************************************ This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. ************************************************************

Eckert, Christopher (Infrastructure Solut

thermobob and why i think it's a "bad idea"(tm)

Post by Eckert, Christopher (Infrastructure Solut » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:14 am

Ya, Califormia sounds nice. We don't get to stay above freezing here. This was a new years ride too. Sorry for the bike in the pictures KLRistas. This was before I was born again. I was bad and full of satan in those days. I had a GS, but I am better now! http://www.ginsucity.com/turkeys.pdf ________________________________ From: Jeff Khoury [mailto:jeff@...] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:54 AM To: Eckert, Christopher (Infrastructure Solutions Dept.) Cc: DSN KLR650 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ThermoBob and why I think it's a "Bad Idea"(tm) I never stopped. One of the few advantages of living in California. The weather never gets so bad that I can't ride to work. The coldest commute I had was in January at about 38 degrees, and it never rains harder than a steady shower. New Year's Day, all the drunks were still in bed and I was flogging the KLR on "The Snake". http://on.fb.me/fOWzBr -Jeff Khoury ________________________________ From: "skypilot110" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:19:04 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ThermoBob and why I think it's a "Bad Idea"(tm) You people are all missing one very important point. Today it is oficially summer. Stop talking and go hit the trails. In fact stop workign and go hit the trails if need be. :-) --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , Jeff Khoury wrote:
> > I've been on these KLR boards for a while and I've read almost every
article about the KLR imaginable. I've also read a great deal about engines in general.
>
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Thomas Landmann
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Post by Thomas Landmann » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:40 am

Impressive! Those of us that love the KLR know that it is limited mostly by the rider's ability, and nerve. :-) I am relatively unskilled and still trying to be brave on loose/deep gravel, so I am always the weak link. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:30 AM, skypilot110 wrote:
> ** > > > Call it a compromise but my klr climbed out of the pools to pass a lot of > expensive euro bikes at the Roaming Rally this year. > > I put my bike through some water holes that ate every KTM and Husky that > hit them. The BMWs did ok but the BMW riders weren't all up to the task in > some of the wet spots. No KLR got drowned although I did cool mine off once > enough that I though I had wet wires. Once I hit the chock I was fine. > > me riding through > > http://skypilot.smugmug.com/Other/Roamingrally2011/i-7M62F88/0/XL/IMG2818-XL.jpg > > The KTM version of riding through. There was another KTM and a Husky dead > on the other side too :-) > > http://skypilot.smugmug.com/Other/Roamingrally2011/i-fvMj8X2/0/XL/IMG2828-XL.jpg >
-- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Eckert, Christopher (Infrastructure Solut

thermobob and why i think it's a "bad idea"(tm)

Post by Eckert, Christopher (Infrastructure Solut » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:13 pm

Rallys are your friend. There are always skilled riders willing to help and you dont need to ride alone. The Roaming Rally might not be a good place to start though since you needed to know how to ride off road and how to pilot a submarine. I never saw so much water before ________________________________ From: thomas.landmann@... [mailto:thomas.landmann@...] On Behalf Of Thomas Landmann Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:40 PM To: Eckert, Christopher (Infrastructure Solutions Dept.) Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ThermoBob and why I think it's a "Bad Idea"(tm) Impressive! Those of us that love the KLR know that it is limited mostly by the rider's ability, and nerve. :-) I am relatively unskilled and still trying to be brave on loose/deep gravel, so I am always the weak link. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:30 AM, skypilot110 wrote: Call it a compromise but my klr climbed out of the pools to pass a lot of expensive euro bikes at the Roaming Rally this year. I put my bike through some water holes that ate every KTM and Husky that hit them. The BMWs did ok but the BMW riders weren't all up to the task in some of the wet spots. No KLR got drowned although I did cool mine off once enough that I though I had wet wires. Once I hit the chock I was fine. me riding through http://skypilot.smugmug.com/Other/Roamingrally2011/i-7M62F88/0/XL/IMG281 8-XL.jpg The KTM version of riding through. There was another KTM and a Husky dead on the other side too :-) http://skypilot.smugmug.com/Other/Roamingrally2011/i-fvMj8X2/0/XL/IMG282 8-XL.jpg -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. ************************************************************ This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. ************************************************************ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jim Douglas
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red lights that don't change

Post by Jim Douglas » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:00 pm

I know the lights where I ride and which one's don't trip on the bike, I simply do a right on red and turn around. Running a red light in front of the police is somewhat stupid, IMHO! It's not a big deal to me as there is only about 3 around town that I seem to be caught on.
On 6/20/2011 7:50 PM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > I have several lights in my area (SoCal) that won't change for me on the > KLR. From what I've read the sensors for the lights are a magnetic > field and > require a sufficient mass of ferric metal to trip them - iron or > steel, not > aluminum alloy. The KLR doesn't have enough iron or steel down low > enough to > trip the light. I've had some luck with putting the bike into neutral at > about 10 mph and working the kickstand up and down as I come to a stop, or > just letting it scrape the asphalt. The little magnets they sell on > eBay are > too puny to do the job on a bike with that kind of ground clearance. Some > sensors are just too old or buried under too much asphalt. In that case I > just go straight or make a right and find a place to make a U-turn or > otherwise get back on course. > > Annoying, isn't it? > -- > ian > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tengai Mark Van Horn
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Post by Tengai Mark Van Horn » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:47 pm

The presence of a Thermo-Bob wouldn't prevent me from cutting a deal on a bike. I don't think it causes any damage; I just think it's an unnecessary waste of money. Sadly, a lot of guys get sucked into buying these well-machined cottage industry gadgets. The Thermo-Bob might function as advertised, but there is documented proof that it in creases engine life. I live in a northern climate and my Tengai has always indicated a water temp on the cold side. It has 61K miles now, with ZERO oil consumption. Mark At 6:09 PM -0700 6/20/11, Jeff Khoury wrote: ... I will never buy a ThermoBob or a bike that has been equipped with one. -Jeff Khoury [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Mike Frey
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thermobob and why i think it's a "bad idea"(tm)

Post by Mike Frey » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:20 pm

Jennifer had a Thermo-Bob. And, a nicely done doohickey. I have neither. I like tacos

Harry Seifert
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thermobob and why i think it's a "bad idea"(tm)

Post by Harry Seifert » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:38 pm

No, Jennifer had Thermo-Boobs..........one in front and one in back. Tasty tacos, too!
On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mike Frey wrote: > Jennifer had a Thermo-Bob. And, a nicely done doohickey. > > I have neither. > > I like tacos > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > >

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