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[Rick McCauley]

Ouch !! I would want to get 12,000 miles out of it to make it worth buying. Rick A17

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: "Rick McCauley" Cc: "dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 2:23 PM I will keep everyone posted. I have 1200 miles or so on it now, and it is wearing well. I paid $166.00 for it using my brother's discount at Santa Monica Kawasaki. (he works for Moto-Tow and they have a company account). They can be had on the Internet for $145.00 plus shipping. - Jeff Khoury On Aug 14, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Rick McCauley wrote: > I would like to hear how many miles you get out of the metzler, and > how much did it cost? > > Rick > A17 > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > From: Jeff Khoury > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: "Rick McCauley" > Cc: "dsn klr650" > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:43 PM > > > > I switched away from the stock tire because it erased itself in a > scant 5600 miles. The Metzeler has a slightly more aggressive tread > design, but using the scientific "fingernail" test, it is a much > harder compound and should give me a few more miles. > > The reason this is important to me is that I put so many miles on > the bike. I've only had it since December and I already have over > 6500 miles on it - commuting, touring and trail riding. > > -Jeff Khoury > Astatic Solutions, LLC. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick McCauley" > To: "dsn klr650" > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:11:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > > There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one > that uses the OEM tires? > The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs > $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire > every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend > almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I > was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I > understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a > motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the > stock tires seem great. > > Rick > A17 > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury < jeff@astatic. net > wrote: > > From: Jeff Khoury < jeff@astatic. net > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: "Jeff Saline" < salinej1@juno. com > > Cc: " foolstools@gmail. com " < foolstools@gmail. com >, " > DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com " < DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM > > In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and > cattywompus. > > - > Jeff Khoury > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > > writes: > > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > > > Dave > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > > > Dave, > > > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy > duty > > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > > which > > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it > will. > > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > > riding. > > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think > the > > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > > lighter than you fully loaded. > > > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals > and > > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > > . > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > > and travel in style! > > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN > 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[jbukwyld]

I just bought a used '08 KLR with Dunlop 606's that are about due to be changed. Anyone feel like there is something better than TKC's for mostly off road touring and adventure? Thanks, John

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "David Giuliani" wrote: > > I've gone through four IRC rear tires (two fronts)and none of the rear lasted more than 3000 miles, in fact that was pushing it. This time I splurged and bought front and rear TKC80. I used to keep the IRC at 26/28 lbs. no matter the road surface. The max pressure shown on the side wall for the TKC80 is 40psi. That seemed a little excessive so I tried 34/36 this morning. They felt great on the road, quicker through turns, but got a little squirrely on the dirt (dry powdery red clay this time of year)& gravel. I'm wondering what others have to say about these tires and air pressure. > > By the way, I also upgraded to a mid weight Progressive rear spring. (Did the fork springs over a year ago.) Great improvement! No more mushy feeling. Solid. > > Dave >

[Jeff Khoury]

If there's one thing I don't skimp on, it's motorcycle tires. I don't wanna be riding down the road and wake up in the hospital. - Jeff Khoury

On Aug 14, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Rick McCauley wrote: > Ouch !! > I would want to get 12,000 miles out of it to make it worth buying. > > Rick > A17 > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > From: Jeff Khoury > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: "Rick McCauley" > Cc: "dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 2:23 PM > > > > I will keep everyone posted. I have 1200 miles or so on it now, and it > is wearing well. I paid $166.00 for it using my brother's discount at > Santa Monica Kawasaki. (he works for Moto-Tow and they have a company > account). They can be had on the Internet for $145.00 plus shipping. > > - > Jeff Khoury > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Rick McCauley > wrote: > > > I would like to hear how many miles you get out of the metzler, and > > how much did it cost? > > > > Rick > > A17 > > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > > > From: Jeff Khoury > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > > To: "Rick McCauley" > > Cc: "dsn klr650" > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:43 PM > > > > > > > > I switched away from the stock tire because it erased itself in a > > scant 5600 miles. The Metzeler has a slightly more aggressive tread > > design, but using the scientific "fingernail" test, it is a much > > harder compound and should give me a few more miles. > > > > The reason this is important to me is that I put so many miles on > > the bike. I've only had it since December and I already have over > > 6500 miles on it - commuting, touring and trail riding. > > > > -Jeff Khoury > > Astatic Solutions, LLC. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick McCauley" > > To: "dsn klr650" > > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:11:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada > Pacific > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > > > > There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one > > that uses the OEM tires? > > The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs > > $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire > > every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend > > almost twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I > > was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I > > understand if you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a > > motocrosser (Yikes), but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the > > stock tires seem great. > > > > Rick > > A17 > > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury < jeff@astatic. net > wrote: > > > > From: Jeff Khoury < jeff@astatic. net > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > > To: "Jeff Saline" < salinej1@juno. com > > > Cc: " foolstools@gmail. com " < foolstools@gmail. com >, " > > DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com " < DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM > > > > In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and > > cattywompus. > > > > - > > Jeff Khoury > > > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > > > writes: > > > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it > kept > > > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never > had > > > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. > I'd > > > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > > > > > Dave, > > > > > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy > > duty > > > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > > > which > > > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > > > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to > 180 > > > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it > > will. > > > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > > > > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > > > riding. > > > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think > > the > > > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a > bit > > > lighter than you fully loaded. > > > > > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals > > and > > > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Jeff Saline > > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > > > > . > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor > home > > > and travel in style! > > > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN > > 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Tumu Rock]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "jbukwyld" wrote:

> > I just bought a used '08 KLR with Dunlop 606's that are about due to be changed. Anyone feel like there is something better than TKC's for mostly off road touring and adventure? > > Thanks, > > John >

Yeah, new 606s. You can lean 'em over almost as far on pavement as the TKCs and they are far better off road. Look at the side knobs and you can see how a TKC will let go of the dirt way sooner than a 606 in a trail braking or power sliding situation. da Vermonster

[The Reverend]

I doubt that would really happen unless you *seriously* ignore the bikes input. Because karma came to bite me in the ass (and then reward me moments later), I got to experience a flat tire last night - yes, the very same night I had planned to replace the tires. It stranded me 10 minutes from my house. The first clue was coming off the freeway, making the turn onto the highway the rear felt a little... Squirrely... Now those tires were have done that before in aggressive cornering, but either it was an oil slick or it was just the Kendas. I'm sailing about 80mph when suddenly the rear of the bike gets very slippery and I figured that the gamble was wrong. It's a flat. Indeed. Alas, over the years I've had a few incidents where I've had a flat. The ZX9R popped a rear at 130mph, it popped a rear a few times actually. The Suzuki did the same etc. They let you know. If you gently roll off the throttle and don't make any hasty movements, you'll be fine. Of course, you might anticipate it a bit if you inspect the tires regularly too (which is why I had my Shinko's at the ready). So I figure that tires are more a preference than "more money = more quality" as long as you're within the parameters of them. I need to pose this question in my "riding group" too. In my years of riding with them, I can think of one time where a possible flat may have caused a bike to go down (due to no fault of the rider!)- and this in a group with thousands of miles per week between us. My curiosity is piqued. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Khoury If there's one thing I don't skimp on, it's motorcycle tires. I don't wanna be riding down the road and wake up in the hospital.

[D Critchley]

I fitted Anakees before going on a cross-Canada trip last year, from Ucluelet to St Johns' NFLD. Almost 15000 km. The rear was replaced when I got back, the front is still on. DC Rick McCauley wrote:

> > > I agree. But I haven't seen any claims to 10,000 mile tires on a KLR yet. > I don't know if i would pay triple, but i would certainly pay $50 for > every additional 4,000 miles I could get from the tire. > > Rick > A17 > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Craig Kahler > wrote: > > From: Craig Kahler > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 11:27 AM > > > > A big reason I would consider an other than stock rear tire is > mileage. If there is a tire available which will provide substantially > higher mileage than stock, let me know about it. I would be willing to > pay up to triple the cost of a stock tire, if I only had to change it > half as often. > > Craig Kahler > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Rick McCauley wrote: > > From: Rick McCauley > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: dsn_klr650@yahoogro ups.com > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:11 PM > > > > There are a lot of posts about what tire to use. Am I the only one > that uses the OEM tires? > The rear costs $55.00 delivered to my door, and the front costs > $45.00. I ride 4,500 miles a year on average. I get a new rear tire > every Spring, and a new front one every other. I used to spend almost > twice that every year for the rear tire on my V65 Sabre. I was just > wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? I understand if > you are going mudding, or are using the KLR as a motocrosser (Yikes), > but for the type of riding done on a KLR, the stock tires seem great. > > Rick > A17 > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > From: Jeff Khoury > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade > To: "Jeff Saline" > Cc: "foolstools@ gmail. com" , "DSN_KLR650@ > yahoogro ups.com" > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:30 AM > > > > In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and cattywompus. > > - > Jeff Khoury > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > > writes: > > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > > > Dave > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > > > Dave, > > > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy duty > > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > > which > > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it will. > > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > > riding. > > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think the > > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > > lighter than you fully loaded. > > > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals and > > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > > . > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > > and travel in style! > > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN > 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

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[Robert Waters]

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> Posted by: "Jeff Khoury" jeff@... DsrtEgl

Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:26 pm (PDT)

> I will keep everyone posted. I have 1200 miles or so on it now, and it

is wearing well. I paid $166.00 for it using my brother's discount at Santa Monica Kawasaki. (he works for Moto-Tow and they have a company account). They can be had on the Internet for $145.00 plus shipping. > Jeff Khoury I have been "had" on the internet a couple of times. rw [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Greg May]

The one I always found the most interesting was actually 2 words, the first usually uttered by an electronics tech I worked with for years....that word being "oops" .....it was usually followed by "wow" by whoever was close by.......have a great evening.....Greg

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: "Jeff Saline" Cc: "foolstools@..." , "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Received: Friday, August 14, 2009, 11:30 AM In my professional life, some of my favorites are wonky and cattywompus. - Jeff Khoury On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:44 -0000 "David Giuliani" > writes: > > Another question and a little clarification: > > > > When I "balanced" the wheel/tire on a pair of jack stands, it kept > > landing at the same point until I worked up to 2 oz. of 1/4 oz. > > weights lined up along one side between the spokes. I've never had > > to place that many before. Could it be do to the newly installed > > extra heavy duty tube? Has anyone experienced this? > > > > > > I'm wondering what sort of pressure you guys run in the TKC80. I'd > > like to keep an average for road, gravel, and dirt use but don't > > want to sacrifice road-ability for my 15% trail use. And I don't > > want to sacrifice wear either. My weight plus minor gear usually > > doesn't go over 220lbs. > > > > Dave > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Dave, > > I've had to add lots of weight when using a heavy or ultra heavy duty > tube too. I did find/feel a large piece of material inside a tube > which > I think was from installing the valve at manufacture. It made the > balancing pretty whacky*. You could try rotating the tire 90 to 180 > degrees to see if that makes any difference but I don't think it will. > My suggestion is to just ride it once it's balanced. > > I run Kenda K270s at 32 psi front and 36 psi rear for most of my > riding. > I normally don't change pressures for off pavement riding. I think the > TKC80s are a similar tread and might work about the same. I'm a bit > lighter than you fully loaded. > > * Whacky is a technical term only for use by trained professionals and > often misused by other than trained professionals. : ) > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home > and travel in style! > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTD0ffnN 0iMBzLVOxYSfLDrQ awKgdaNapDbsbbF8 htPp803slf4Bo8/ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

I've never had one catastrophically go either, and I don't wanna. The tire is quite literally where the rubber meets the road. I know it was not due to a faulty tire, but remember the recent thread "KLR DOWN, and rider, too" on this mailing list? One nail landed Tom in the hospital with no recollection of how he got there. You guys go ahead with the $60.00 Chinese tires. I'm all for taking a calculated risk... for Mithra's sake I ride to work every morning on the legendary 405, but I won't do it on a cheap tire. On the helmets: I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but Motorcyclist Magazine did extensive testing of helmets and how much energy was transmitted to the "heads" of crash test dummies in a variety of impacts. The best helmet by far for absorbing those brain-injuring g-forces was... ...wait for it... ...an $80.00 Z1R helmet. The theory is that the harder Snell-rated helmets are actually TOO hard and don't absorb as much impact as the DOT-only rated helmets. You can read the full article here: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html It's an interesting read, and I may be re-thinking my next helmet purchase. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "The Reverend" To: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:09:06 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade I doubt that would really happen unless you *seriously* ignore the bikes input. Because karma came to bite me in the ass (and then reward me moments later), I got to experience a flat tire last night - yes, the very same night I had planned to replace the tires. It stranded me 10 minutes from my house. The first clue was coming off the freeway, making the turn onto the highway the rear felt a little... Squirrely... Now those tires were have done that before in aggressive cornering, but either it was an oil slick or it was just the Kendas. I'm sailing about 80mph when suddenly the rear of the bike gets very slippery and I figured that the gamble was wrong. It's a flat. Indeed. Alas, over the years I've had a few incidents where I've had a flat. The ZX9R popped a rear at 130mph, it popped a rear a few times actually. The Suzuki did the same etc. They let you know. If you gently roll off the throttle and don't make any hasty movements, you'll be fine. Of course, you might anticipate it a bit if you inspect the tires regularly too (which is why I had my Shinko's at the ready). So I figure that tires are more a preference than "more money = more quality" as long as you're within the parameters of them. I need to pose this question in my "riding group" too. In my years of riding with them, I can think of one time where a possible flat may have caused a bike to go down (due to no fault of the rider!)- and this in a group with thousands of miles per week between us. My curiosity is piqued. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff Khoury If there's one thing I don't skimp on, it's motorcycle tires. I don't wanna be riding down the road and wake up in the hospital. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

I too am a fan of 606's (other than they wear quick on pavement). 606's are amazing for a tire as knobby as they are on pavement. Didn't like TKC's. I am trying a Mefo on the rear now and seems like it is going to be a good one also ..... but pricey. Criswell

On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:53 PM, Tumu Rock wrote: > -- > > > > Yeah, new 606s. You can lean 'em over almost as far on pavement as > the TKCs and they are far better off road. Look at the side knobs > and you can see how a TKC will let go of the dirt way sooner than a > 606 in a trail braking or power sliding situation. > > da Vermonster > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]