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nakedwaterskier
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Post by nakedwaterskier » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:20 am

It's a little hard to generalize about the difference between Mobil 1 passenger-car motor oils and Mobil 1 motorcycle oils. That's because not all viscosities of Mobil 1 passenger-car oils have the same levels of zinc and phosphorus, and there are even greater differences among the three Mobil 1 motorcycle oils. In general, Mobil 1 motorcycle oils have: Additive packages balanced differently for motorcycle engine and transmission operation. For passenger vehicles, fuel economy and emission system protection are higher priorities. These require low phosphorus systems and the use of friction modifiers. Motorcycle oils do not require friction modifiers for fuel economy and for better clutch friction less/no friction modifier is optimum. Motorcycle oils allow the use of higher levels of antiwear additives such as ZDDP (phosphorous).

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Post by Ed Dobson » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:54 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "nakedwaterskier" wrote:
> > It's a little hard to generalize about the difference between Mobil 1 > passenger-car motor oils and Mobil 1 motorcycle oils. That's because > not all viscosities of Mobil 1 passenger-car oils have the same levels > of zinc and phosphorus, and there are even greater differences among > the three Mobil 1 motorcycle oils. In general, Mobil 1 motorcycle oils > have: > > Additive packages balanced differently for motorcycle engine and > transmission operation. For passenger vehicles, fuel economy and > emission system protection are higher priorities. These require low > phosphorus systems and the use of friction modifiers. Motorcycle oils > do not require friction modifiers for fuel economy and for better > clutch friction less/no friction modifier is optimum. Motorcycle oils > allow the use of higher levels of antiwear additives such as ZDDP > (phosphorous).
Yup. [:-)] ED

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Post by Robert Wayne » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:28 pm

Oh my God! I'm headed to the shop to drain that nasty Mobile 1 passenger car oil right out of my bike. Thanks for the ALERT! nakedwaterskier wrote: It's a little hard to generalize about the difference between Mobil 1 passenger-car motor oils and Mobil 1 motorcycle oils. That's because not all viscosities of Mobil 1 passenger-car oils have the same levels of zinc and phosphorus, and there are even greater differences among the three Mobil 1 motorcycle oils. In general, Mobil 1 motorcycle oils have: Additive packages balanced differently for motorcycle engine and transmission operation. For passenger vehicles, fuel economy and emission system protection are higher priorities. These require low phosphorus systems and the use of friction modifiers. Motorcycle oils do not require friction modifiers for fuel economy and for better clutch friction less/no friction modifier is optimum. Motorcycle oils allow the use of higher levels of antiwear additives such as ZDDP (phosphorous). --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Post by rockiedog2 » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:02 pm

Hard to say exactly what it had in it when it ran out as I bummed about a qt and a half or so to get to the station a quarter mile down the road...but it held 4.4 gallons there at the pump...will run it out again and take careful note of what's in it before making any changes yet. Am now hauling a gallon can with me thanks for the help guys Joe --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote:
> > I've used those filters without a problem, but I always carry a
small
> piece of copper tubing in case the filter breaks or clogs. > > Grasping here, but maybe your filter is partially clogged and won't > flow enough gas without more pressure from the fuel above. I'd take
it
> out of the line the next time you go on reserve and see if you get > more miles out the reserve. Also, do a visual check if you have > another short reserve session and see what's left in the tank. How > much less than 5 gallons did you put in? > > __Arden > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "rockiedog2" wrote: > > > > Oh yeh forgot that I had recently added one of the little brass > element > > clear filters in the line to the carb. This is the first time on > > reserve after adding the filter...maybe related in some way? > > > > thx again Joe > > >

Walter Mitty
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Post by Walter Mitty » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:10 pm

While the Mobil 1 motorcycle specific oils do contain higher levels of zinc and phosphorous, both the motorcycle specific Mobil 1 oil and most of the other Mobil 1 oils contain friction modifiers (moly). The motorcycle specific oils actually contain higher levels of moly than the Mobil 1 15w50. nakedwaterskier wrote: It's a little hard to generalize about the difference between Mobil 1 passenger-car motor oils and Mobil 1 motorcycle oils. That's because not all viscosities of Mobil 1 passenger-car oils have the same levels of zinc and phosphorus, and there are even greater differences among the three Mobil 1 motorcycle oils. In general, Mobil 1 motorcycle oils have: Additive packages balanced differently for motorcycle engine and transmission operation. For passenger vehicles, fuel economy and emission system protection are higher priorities. These require low phosphorus systems and the use of friction modifiers. Motorcycle oils do not require friction modifiers for fuel economy and for better clutch friction less/no friction modifier is optimum. Motorcycle oils allow the use of higher levels of antiwear additives such as ZDDP (phosphorous). --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ed Dobson
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Post by Ed Dobson » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:03 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Walter Mitty wrote:
> > While the Mobil 1 motorcycle specific oils do contain higher levels
of zinc and phosphorous, both the motorcycle specific Mobil 1 oil and most of the other Mobil 1 oils contain friction modifiers (moly). The motorcycle specific oils actually contain higher levels of moly than the Mobil 1 15w50.
> > nakedwaterskier wrote: It's a little
hard to generalize about the difference between Mobil 1
> passenger-car motor oils and Mobil 1 motorcycle oils. That's because > not all viscosities of Mobil 1 passenger-car oils have the same levels > of zinc and phosphorus, and there are even greater differences among > the three Mobil 1 motorcycle oils. In general, Mobil 1 motorcycle oils > have: > > Additive packages balanced differently for motorcycle engine and > transmission operation. For passenger vehicles, fuel economy and > emission system protection are higher priorities. These require low > phosphorus systems and the use of friction modifiers. Motorcycle oils > do not require friction modifiers for fuel economy and for better > clutch friction less/no friction modifier is optimum. Motorcycle oils > allow the use of higher levels of antiwear additives such as ZDDP > (phosphorous). > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of
Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
Do you have references for the claims of moly in the Mobil and other oils. Thanks. ED

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