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Post by jean luc ascencio » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:23 pm

Here is something you can do to help: In eight days Al Gore is going to address the UN Climate Change Conference in Bali, Indonesia. At his urging, I've signed an important petition showing I support his important call for a visionary treaty to address the climate crisis. I hope you will too. http://www.climateprotect.org/standwithal The world's elected leaders must take the steps necessary to solve global warming. It's not too late. We have the opportunity now to improve the Earth's future for our children, and their children. If we don't act, we will only have ourselves to blame. Please sign the petition today: http://www.climateprotect.org/standwithal --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Post by fasteddiecopeman » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:56 pm

Jean Luc, At risk of being controversial: Al Gore is one of the biggest SNAKE OIL salesmen around. Go to You Tube and look for the BBC documentary about him, 75 minutes long. I believe it's called "An Inconvenient Lie" or something close, and debunks his whole Oscar winning 'mockumentary'. Are you aware of WHY and HOW Greenland, a place covered in ice and snow, got its name, MANY years ago? Global warming is cyclical, and caused by the sun. That's NOT to say that we shouldn't husband our resources, and stop polluting, but to suggest that man is directly causing all these weather calamities.... Ed

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Post by fasteddiecopeman » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:13 pm

Jean Luc, I don't have time to find that BBC commentary for you, but I got this http://youtube.com/watch?v=-JNCgoiGYjM from You Tube. Watch it. Ed

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Post by Russell Scott » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:29 pm

Anybody who thinks global warming isn't 90% driven by fascist politics, and 10% science, keep reading. U.N. Blackballs International Scientists from Climate Change Conference Voice of dissent excluded from participation in Bali Written By: Tom Swiss Published In: News Releases Publication Date: December 4, 2007 Publisher: The Heartland Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- (CHICAGO, Illinois - December 5, 2007) -- The United Nations has rejected all attempts by a group of dissenting scientists seeking to present information at the climate change conference taking place in Bali, Indonesia. The International Climate Science Coalition (ICSC) has been denied the opportunity to present at panel discussions, side events, and exhibits; its members were denied press credentials. The group consists of distinguished scientists from Africa, Australia, India, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The scientists, citing pivotal evidence on climate change published in peer-reviewed journals, have expressed their opposition to the UN's alarmist theory of anthropogenic global warming. As the debate on man-made global warming has been heating up, the UN has tried to freeze out the scientists and new evidence, summarily dismissing them with the claim "the science is settled." James M. Taylor, senior fellow for The Heartland Institute explained, "It is not surprising the UN has completely rejected dissenting voices. They have been doing this for years. The censorship of scientists is necessary to promote their political agenda. After the science reversed on the alarmist crowd, they claimed 'the debate is over' to serve their wealth redistribution agenda." Taylor continued, "For example, ICSC scientist Dr. Vincent Gray recently published Unsound Science by the IPCC, which proves the main claims by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are scientifically unsound. Dr. Gray is an expert reviewer for the IPCC and has submitted more than 1,800 comments on IPCC reports. He is an expert on the IPCC methodology and published Spinning the Climate. "Dr. Gray is the last person the politicized UN wants speaking," Taylor noted. "He single-handedly debunks the entire alarmist theory. And there are more than 600 Dr. Grays trying to be the voice of reason and science. All are being censored." Tayor said, "The ICSC scientists don't agree with the pre-determined 'Bali Mandate,' so instead of discussion and debate, we get censorship. Until the UN rejects the politicization of climate change, their reports, protocols, and mandates aren't worth reading--much less ratifying." The ICSC scientists will be available for advice and counsel in Bali, but they expect scientists to be ignored at the Bali conference. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of fasteddiecopeman Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:56 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR metaphysics, the future, oil, and energy Jean Luc, At risk of being controversial: Al Gore is one of the biggest SNAKE OIL salesmen around. Go to You Tube and look for the BBC documentary about him, 75 minutes long. I believe it's called "An Inconvenient Lie" or something close, and debunks his whole Oscar winning 'mockumentary'. Are you aware of WHY and HOW Greenland, a place covered in ice and snow, got its name, MANY years ago? Global warming is cyclical, and caused by the sun. That's NOT to say that we shouldn't husband our resources, and stop polluting, but to suggest that man is directly causing all these weather calamities.... Ed [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Post by jt5231@hotmail.com » Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:55 am

Before you take this "news story" as gospel, do some research on the publisher, The Heartland Institute. Then look into the credentials of the so-called experts who comprise the membership of the ICSC. Anyone who thinks that the "Global Warming? What Global Warming?" movement isn't being coordinated by big-business interests, check your sources. JT To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com From: russell@... Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:25:21 -0800 Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR metaphysics, the future, oil, and energy Anybody who thinks global warming isn't 90% driven by fascist politics, and 10% science, keep reading. U.N. Blackballs International Scientists from Climate Change Conference Voice of dissent excluded from participation in Bali Written By: Tom Swiss Published In: News Releases Publication Date: December 4, 2007 Publisher: The Heartland Institute ---------------------------------------------------------- ---- (CHICAGO, Illinois - December 5, 2007) -- The United Nations has rejected all attempts by a group of dissenting scientists seeking to present information at the climate change conference taking place in Bali, Indonesia. The International Climate Science Coalition (ICSC) has been denied the opportunity to present at panel discussions, side events, and exhibits; its members were denied press credentials. The group consists of distinguished scientists from Africa, Australia, India, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The scientists, citing pivotal evidence on climate change published in peer-reviewed journals, have expressed their opposition to the UN's alarmist theory of anthropogenic global warming. As the debate on man-made global warming has been heating up, the UN has tried to freeze out the scientists and new evidence, summarily dismissing them with the claim "the science is settled." James M. Taylor, senior fellow for The Heartland Institute explained, "It is not surprising the UN has completely rejected dissenting voices. They have been doing this for years. The censorship of scientists is necessary to promote their political agenda. After the science reversed on the alarmist crowd, they claimed 'the debate is over' to serve their wealth redistribution agenda." Taylor continued, "For example, ICSC scientist Dr. Vincent Gray recently published Unsound Science by the IPCC, which proves the main claims by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are scientifically unsound. Dr. Gray is an expert reviewer for the IPCC and has submitted more than 1,800 comments on IPCC reports. He is an expert on the IPCC methodology and published Spinning the Climate. "Dr. Gray is the last person the politicized UN wants speaking," Taylor noted. "He single-handedly debunks the entire alarmist theory. And there are more than 600 Dr. Grays trying to be the voice of reason and science. All are being censored." Tayor said, "The ICSC scientists don't agree with the pre-determined 'Bali Mandate,' so instead of discussion and debate, we get censorship. Until the UN rejects the politicization of climate change, their reports, protocols, and mandates aren't worth reading--much less ratifying." The ICSC scientists will be available for advice and counsel in Bali, but they expect scientists to be ignored at the Bali conference. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of fasteddiecopeman Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:56 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR metaphysics, the future, oil, and energy Jean Luc, At risk of being controversial: Al Gore is one of the biggest SNAKE OIL salesmen around. Go to You Tube and look for the BBC documentary about him, 75 minutes long. I believe it's called "An Inconvenient Lie" or something close, and debunks his whole Oscar winning 'mockumentary'. Are you aware of WHY and HOW Greenland, a place covered in ice and snow, got its name, MANY years ago? Global warming is cyclical, and caused by the sun. That's NOT to say that we shouldn't husband our resources, and stop polluting, but to suggest that man is directly causing all these weather calamities.... Ed [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGL ... lhmtagline [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Post by Ronald Criswell » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:36 am

JT as one who has traveled a bit, I have been to places where they have glaciers (New Zealand, Alaska, Switzerland and Chili). Yes the glaciers are retreating in all those places but have been doing so for the last couple 100 years. Whether man is the cause .... don't know .... or if this is just one of the earth's natural cycles or a sun cycle???? I (and Al Gore) am not qualified to say. Pouring of all this concrete (which radiates heat) or big Suburbans creating warmth (and smog) or cows creating methane gas by farting might affect the balance. Don't know. But I do know there were once tropical plants in what is now Antarctica, and west Texas around Guadalupe National Park is one of the best places in the world to get fossils from an ancient sea bed that was once there. Or the Great Lakes were created by glaciers. The earth is constantly changing and always has. O'Bama or Hillary or Al won't have much effect on it in my opinion. I go to Corpus Christi quite often to monitor sea level. So far, so good. I will keep you posted. Criswell
On Dec 9, 2007, at 6:55 AM, wrote: > > > Before you take this "news story" as gospel, do some research on > the publisher, The Heartland Institute. Then look into the > credentials of the so-called experts who comprise the membership of > the ICSC. > > Anyone who thinks that the "Global Warming? What Global Warming?" > movement isn't being coordinated by big-business interests, check > your sources. > > JT > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > From: russell@... > Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:25:21 -0800 > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR metaphysics, the future, oil, > and energy > > Anybody who thinks global warming isn't 90% driven by fascist > politics, and > > 10% science, keep reading. > > U.N. Blackballs International Scientists from Climate Change > > Conference > > Voice of dissent excluded from participation in Bali > > Written By: Tom Swiss > > Published In: News Releases > > Publication Date: December 4, 2007 > > Publisher: The Heartland Institute > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > (CHICAGO, Illinois - December 5, 2007) -- The United Nations has > rejected > > all attempts by a group of dissenting scientists seeking to present > > information at the climate change conference taking place in Bali, > > Indonesia. > > The International Climate Science Coalition (ICSC) has been denied the > > opportunity to present at panel discussions, side events, and > exhibits; its > > members were denied press credentials. The group consists of > distinguished > > scientists from Africa, Australia, India, New Zealand, the United > Kingdom, > > and the United States. > > The scientists, citing pivotal evidence on climate change published in > > peer-reviewed journals, have expressed their opposition to the UN's > alarmist > > theory of anthropogenic global warming. As the debate on man-made > global > > warming has been heating up, the UN has tried to freeze out the > scientists > > and new evidence, summarily dismissing them with the claim "the > science is > > settled." > > James M. Taylor, senior fellow for The Heartland Institute > explained, "It is > > not surprising the UN has completely rejected dissenting voices. > They have > > been doing this for years. The censorship of scientists is > necessary to > > promote their political agenda. After the science reversed on the > alarmist > > crowd, they claimed 'the debate is over' to serve their wealth > > redistribution agenda." > > Taylor continued, "For example, ICSC scientist Dr. Vincent Gray > recently > > published Unsound Science by the IPCC, which proves the main claims > by the > > Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are scientifically > unsound. Dr. > > Gray is an expert reviewer for the IPCC and has submitted more than > 1,800 > > comments on IPCC reports. He is an expert on the IPCC methodology and > > published Spinning the Climate. > > "Dr. Gray is the last person the politicized UN wants speaking," > Taylor > > noted. "He single-handedly debunks the entire alarmist theory. And > there are > > more than 600 Dr. Grays trying to be the voice of reason and > science. All > > are being censored." > > Tayor said, "The ICSC scientists don't agree with the pre- > determined 'Bali > > Mandate,' so instead of discussion and debate, we get censorship. > Until the > > UN rejects the politicization of climate change, their reports, > protocols, > > and mandates aren't worth reading--much less ratifying." > > The ICSC scientists will be available for advice and counsel in > Bali, but > > they expect scientists to be ignored at the Bali conference. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On > > Behalf Of fasteddiecopeman > > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:56 AM > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR metaphysics, the future, oil, and > energy > > Jean Luc, > > At risk of being controversial: > > Al Gore is one of the biggest SNAKE OIL salesmen around. Go to You > Tube > > and look for the > > BBC documentary about him, 75 minutes long. I believe it's called "An > > Inconvenient Lie" or > > something close, and debunks his whole Oscar winning 'mockumentary'. > > Are you aware of WHY and HOW Greenland, a place covered in ice and > snow, > > got its name, > > MANY years ago? Global warming is cyclical, and caused by the sun. > That's > > NOT to say that > > we shouldn't husband our resources, and stop polluting, but to suggest > > that man is > > directly causing all these weather calamities.... > > Ed > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > __________________________________________________________ > Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. > Join in. > www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGL ... lhmtagline > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Post by Shane » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:13 am

I too have traveled a bit. I have picked up shark's teeth ( Megladoon) as large as my hand at +1500 ft. in the desert in Peru. Also dug up human remains (600 A.D.) in the same area. There are actual boat dock remains at +500 ft. in Peru, and docks complete with vessel remains at - 200ft. in the Med. I have pictures of a whale's skull larger than the suburban we were driving laying in the desert at + 1500 ft. Found fern fossils in IL. in shale piles dug up from 100+ ft. Fern fossils fron altitude in Utah. CO2 levels from hundreds of feet deep ice prove much higher levels in the past. Think I'll drive my Hummer down to the local cofee shop now. Shane

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Post by Luc Legrain » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:40 am

Boy, What a relief to hear that sea level in Corpus Christi remains unchanged ...It seems to be dropping in the Caymans,where I've been roasting for a while, the cause of this water level drop is blamed on the ladies bathing suits ( the fabrics suck up water like a sponge !! ) I therefore propose to BAN ( yes, I know,this is quite drastic,but the health of the planet is at stakes..) bathing suits for women ... Who is with me on this crusade ?? --- Ronald Criswell wrote:
> JT as one who has traveled a bit, I have been to > places where they > have glaciers (New Zealand, Alaska, Switzerland and > Chili). Yes the > glaciers are retreating in all those places but have > been doing so > for the last couple 100 years. Whether man is the > cause .... don't > know .... or if this is just one of the earth's > natural cycles or a > sun cycle???? I (and Al Gore) am not qualified to > say. Pouring of all > this concrete (which radiates heat) or big Suburbans > creating warmth > (and smog) or cows creating methane gas by farting > might affect the > balance. Don't know. But I do know there were once > tropical plants in > what is now Antarctica, and west Texas around > Guadalupe National Park > is one of the best places in the world to get > fossils from an ancient > sea bed that was once there. Or the Great Lakes were > created by > glaciers. The earth is constantly changing and > always has. O'Bama or > Hillary or Al won't have much effect on it in my > opinion. I go to > Corpus Christi quite often to monitor sea level. So > far, so good. I > will keep you posted. > > Criswell > On Dec 9, 2007, at 6:55 AM, > wrote: > > > > > > > Before you take this "news story" as gospel, do > some research on > > the publisher, The Heartland Institute. Then look > into the > > credentials of the so-called experts who comprise > the membership of > > the ICSC. > > > > Anyone who thinks that the "Global Warming? What > Global Warming?" > > movement isn't being coordinated by big-business > interests, check > > your sources. > > > > JT > > > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > From: russell@... > > Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:25:21 -0800 > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR metaphysics, > the future, oil, > > and energy > > > > Anybody who thinks global warming isn't 90% driven > by fascist > > politics, and > > > > 10% science, keep reading. > > > > U.N. Blackballs International Scientists from > Climate Change > > > > Conference > > > > Voice of dissent excluded from participation in > Bali > > > > Written By: Tom Swiss > > > > Published In: News Releases > > > > Publication Date: December 4, 2007 > > > > Publisher: The Heartland Institute > > > > >
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> > > > ---- > > > > (CHICAGO, Illinois - December 5, 2007) -- The > United Nations has > > rejected > > > > all attempts by a group of dissenting scientists > seeking to present > > > > information at the climate change conference > taking place in Bali, > > > > Indonesia. > > > > The International Climate Science Coalition (ICSC) > has been denied the > > > > opportunity to present at panel discussions, side > events, and > > exhibits; its > > > > members were denied press credentials. The group > consists of > > distinguished > > > > scientists from Africa, Australia, India, New > Zealand, the United > > Kingdom, > > > > and the United States. > > > > The scientists, citing pivotal evidence on climate > change published in > > > > peer-reviewed journals, have expressed their > opposition to the UN's > > alarmist > > > > theory of anthropogenic global warming. As the > debate on man-made > > global > > > > warming has been heating up, the UN has tried to > freeze out the > > scientists > > > > and new evidence, summarily dismissing them with > the claim "the > > science is > > > > settled." > > > > James M. Taylor, senior fellow for The Heartland > Institute > > explained, "It is > > > > not surprising the UN has completely rejected > dissenting voices. > > They have > > > > been doing this for years. The censorship of > scientists is > > necessary to > > > > promote their political agenda. After the science > reversed on the > > alarmist > > > > crowd, they claimed 'the debate is over' to serve > their wealth > > > > redistribution agenda." > > > > Taylor continued, "For example, ICSC scientist Dr. > Vincent Gray > > recently > > > > published Unsound Science by the IPCC, which > proves the main claims > > by the > > > > Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are > scientifically > > unsound. Dr. > > > > Gray is an expert reviewer for the IPCC and has > submitted more than > > 1,800 > > > > comments on IPCC reports. He is an expert on the > IPCC methodology and > > > > published Spinning the Climate. > > > > "Dr. Gray is the last person the politicized UN > wants speaking," > > Taylor > > > > noted. "He single-handedly debunks the entire > alarmist theory. And > > there are > > > > more than 600 Dr. Grays trying to be the voice of > reason and > > science. All > > > > are being censored." > > > > Tayor said, "The ICSC scientists don't agree with > the pre- > > determined 'Bali > > > > Mandate,' so instead of discussion and debate, we > get censorship. > > Until the >
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Post by Ronald Criswell » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:57 am

You da man. Lets hear it for dropping the suits. Luc for Prez! We must all do our part. Criswell
On Dec 9, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Luc Legrain wrote: > Boy, What a relief to hear that sea level in Corpus > Christi remains unchanged ...It seems to be dropping > in the Caymans,where I've been roasting for a while, > the cause of this water level drop is blamed on the > ladies bathing suits ( the fabrics suck up water like > a sponge !! ) I therefore propose to BAN ( yes, I > know,this is quite drastic,but the health of the > planet is at stakes..) bathing suits for women ... Who > is with me on this crusade ?? > --- Ronald Criswell wrote: > >> JT as one who has traveled a bit, I have been to >> places where they >> have glaciers (New Zealand, Alaska, Switzerland and >> Chili). Yes the >> glaciers are retreating in all those places but have >> been doing so >> for the last couple 100 years. Whether man is the >> cause .... don't >> know .... or if this is just one of the earth's >> natural cycles or a >> sun cycle???? I (and Al Gore) am not qualified to >> say. Pouring of all >> this concrete (which radiates heat) or big Suburbans >> creating warmth >> (and smog) or cows creating methane gas by farting >> might affect the >> balance. Don't know. But I do know there were once >> tropical plants in >> what is now Antarctica, and west Texas around >> Guadalupe National Park >> is one of the best places in the world to get >> fossils from an ancient >> sea bed that was once there. Or the Great Lakes were >> created by >> glaciers. The earth is constantly changing and >> always has. O'Bama or >> Hillary or Al won't have much effect on it in my >> opinion. I go to >> Corpus Christi quite often to monitor sea level. So >> far, so good. I >> will keep you posted. >> >> Criswell >> On Dec 9, 2007, at 6:55 AM, >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Before you take this "news story" as gospel, do >> some research on >>> the publisher, The Heartland Institute. Then look >> into the >>> credentials of the so-called experts who comprise >> the membership of >>> the ICSC. >>> >>> Anyone who thinks that the "Global Warming? What >> Global Warming?" >>> movement isn't being coordinated by big-business >> interests, check >>> your sources. >>> >>> JT >>> >>> To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >>> From: russell@... >>> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:25:21 -0800 >>> Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR metaphysics, >> the future, oil, >>> and energy >>> >>> Anybody who thinks global warming isn't 90% driven >> by fascist >>> politics, and >>> >>> 10% science, keep reading. >>> >>> U.N. Blackballs International Scientists from >> Climate Change >>> >>> Conference >>> >>> Voice of dissent excluded from participation in >> Bali >>> >>> Written By: Tom Swiss >>> >>> Published In: News Releases >>> >>> Publication Date: December 4, 2007 >>> >>> Publisher: The Heartland Institute >>> >>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> (CHICAGO, Illinois - December 5, 2007) -- The >> United Nations has >>> rejected >>> >>> all attempts by a group of dissenting scientists >> seeking to present >>> >>> information at the climate change conference >> taking place in Bali, >>> >>> Indonesia. >>> >>> The International Climate Science Coalition (ICSC) >> has been denied the >>> >>> opportunity to present at panel discussions, side >> events, and >>> exhibits; its >>> >>> members were denied press credentials. The group >> consists of >>> distinguished >>> >>> scientists from Africa, Australia, India, New >> Zealand, the United >>> Kingdom, >>> >>> and the United States. >>> >>> The scientists, citing pivotal evidence on climate >> change published in >>> >>> peer-reviewed journals, have expressed their >> opposition to the UN's >>> alarmist >>> >>> theory of anthropogenic global warming. As the >> debate on man-made >>> global >>> >>> warming has been heating up, the UN has tried to >> freeze out the >>> scientists >>> >>> and new evidence, summarily dismissing them with >> the claim "the >>> science is >>> >>> settled." >>> >>> James M. Taylor, senior fellow for The Heartland >> Institute >>> explained, "It is >>> >>> not surprising the UN has completely rejected >> dissenting voices. >>> They have >>> >>> been doing this for years. The censorship of >> scientists is >>> necessary to >>> >>> promote their political agenda. After the science >> reversed on the >>> alarmist >>> >>> crowd, they claimed 'the debate is over' to serve >> their wealth >>> >>> redistribution agenda." >>> >>> Taylor continued, "For example, ICSC scientist Dr. >> Vincent Gray >>> recently >>> >>> published Unsound Science by the IPCC, which >> proves the main claims >>> by the >>> >>> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are >> scientifically >>> unsound. Dr. >>> >>> Gray is an expert reviewer for the IPCC and has >> submitted more than >>> 1,800 >>> >>> comments on IPCC reports. He is an expert on the >> IPCC methodology and >>> >>> published Spinning the Climate. >>> >>> "Dr. Gray is the last person the politicized UN >> wants speaking," >>> Taylor >>> >>> noted. "He single-handedly debunks the entire >> alarmist theory. And >>> there are >>> >>> more than 600 Dr. Grays trying to be the voice of >> reason and >>> science. All >>> >>> are being censored." >>> >>> Tayor said, "The ICSC scientists don't agree with >> the pre- >>> determined 'Bali >>> >>> Mandate,' so instead of discussion and debate, we >> get censorship. >>> Until the >> > === message truncated === > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/ > newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

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Post by Randall Marbach » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:23 pm

Looks like big Al practices what he preaches.... or does he? http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp 'Nuff said... Randy from Burbank ----- Original Message ---- From: fasteddiecopeman To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2007 10:56:14 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR metaphysics, the future, oil, and energy Jean Luc, At risk of being controversial: Al Gore is one of the biggest SNAKE OIL salesmen around. Go to You Tube and look for the BBC documentary about him, 75 minutes long. I believe it's called "An Inconvenient Lie" or something close, and debunks his whole Oscar winning 'mockumentary'. Are you aware of WHY and HOW Greenland, a place covered in ice and snow, got its name, MANY years ago? Global warming is cyclical, and caused by the sun. That's NOT to say that we shouldn't husband our resources, and stop polluting, but to suggest that man is directly causing all these weather calamities.... Ed List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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