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DSN_KLR650
Me
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carb icing?

Post by Me » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:21 am

2005 KLR650 I've begun to run into a problem recently I'm hoping one of you can help me with. I'm riding along, early in my trip, I gun the engine to pass and the thing sounds like i need to switch to reserve. The first time, i switched to reserve and it kept acting like it had no gas (lurching, chugging) so i slowed down and gassed up. Then no problem. 2nd time, I eased up on the throttle and put the choke full on. It seemed ok after that. Temps were between 36 and 40. So I doubt it was ice. Any ideas? Do i need to take it to the dealer? test'; "> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

JOHN_HARKINS@HMCO.COM
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carb icing?

Post by JOHN_HARKINS@HMCO.COM » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:35 am

I have also experienced the same symptoms on my 2005 KLR. The first time was right after I washed the motorcycle, the bike would not start up. I was careful not to hose around the carb and electrical. When I cranked the ignition, eventually it would just barely catch running and the instant I touched the throttle, it would die. I let the bike sit overnight and the next day it fired right up and ran fine. Soon after I brought the bike in to have the forks tightened up and also to check out why the motor acted the way it did. They couldn't find anything wrong I was advised by the group that you should NOT ever to wash your bike. About a month ago, the bike sputtered as I was riding. I was low on gas so I switched to the reserve it fired right up and soon filled up the tank. After gassing up, I was riding and the bike sputtered again, like it was running out of gas, the motor died and I coasted to the side of the road. I switched back to reserve and it restarted. These occurrences make me a little uneasy about the reliability of the bike if I'm off in no man's land. I wish I could find out the reason it acts like that. Me Sent by: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 10/16/06 05:16 AM To MADS_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com cc Subject [DSN_KLR650] Carb Icing? 2005 KLR650 I've begun to run into a problem recently I'm hoping one of you can help me with. I'm riding along, early in my trip, I gun the engine to pass and the thing sounds like i need to switch to reserve. The first time, i switched to reserve and it kept acting like it had no gas (lurching, chugging) so i slowed down and gassed up. Then no problem. 2nd time, I eased up on the throttle and put the choke full on. It seemed ok after that. Temps were between 36 and 40. So I doubt it was ice. Any ideas? Do i need to take it to the dealer? test'; "> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

fasteddiecopeman
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carb icing?

Post by fasteddiecopeman » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:45 am

YES you can get carb icing ABOVE 32F. Ed (an old pilot)

Moose
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carb icing?

Post by Moose » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:49 pm

You need 3 things for a good burn and all in the proper ratio. Fuel, air and spark. If it dies when you hit the gas, that is usually indicative of flooding, but being that new of a carb, check to see that the air flow isn't restricted, basically making it so you can't burn all the gas. If your air filter is clean, move to the fuel lines and any filters you have. If they're clogged, or perhaps a piece of trash in the filter that plugs your line when under pressure. I've had a piece of a leaf fall into my tank and make it all the way through the line to me filter where it would rattle harmlessly, until you added volume, then it would suck up to the line and block it. Drove me nuts until I saw it floating around by chance. My .02 Moose JOHN_HARKINS@... wrote: I have also experienced the same symptoms on my 2005 KLR. The first time was right after I washed the motorcycle, the bike would not start up. I was careful not to hose around the carb and electrical. When I cranked the ignition, eventually it would just barely catch running and the instant I touched the throttle, it would die. I let the bike sit overnight and the next day it fired right up and ran fine. Soon after I brought the bike in to have the forks tightened up and also to check out why the motor acted the way it did. They couldn't find anything wrong I was advised by the group that you should NOT ever to wash your bike. About a month ago, the bike sputtered as I was riding. I was low on gas so I switched to the reserve it fired right up and soon filled up the tank. After gassing up, I was riding and the bike sputtered again, like it was running out of gas, the motor died and I coasted to the side of the road. I switched back to reserve and it restarted. These occurrences make me a little uneasy about the reliability of the bike if I'm off in no man's land. I wish I could find out the reason it acts like that. Me Sent by: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 10/16/06 05:16 AM To MADS_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com cc Subject [DSN_KLR650] Carb Icing? 2005 KLR650 I've begun to run into a problem recently I'm hoping one of you can help me with. I'm riding along, early in my trip, I gun the engine to pass and the thing sounds like i need to switch to reserve. The first time, i switched to reserve and it kept acting like it had no gas (lurching, chugging) so i slowed down and gassed up. Then no problem. 2nd time, I eased up on the throttle and put the choke full on. It seemed ok after that. Temps were between 36 and 40. So I doubt it was ice. Any ideas? Do i need to take it to the dealer? test'; "> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jim
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carb icing?

Post by Jim » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:35 pm

Several things can cause this condition, assuming it's not an electrical gremlin. Bad fuel. Debris in float bowl. Tank vent not functioning. Fuel screen(s) blocked. Vacuum petcock system not functioning. Emissions system not functioning (CA models). Any more? Good luck and let us know what you find. --Jim A-15
> 2005 KLR650 > I've begun to run into a problem recently I'm hoping one of > you can help me with. I'm riding along, early in my trip, I > gun the engine to pass and the thing sounds like i need to > switch to reserve. > > The first time, i switched to reserve and it kept acting > like it had no gas (lurching, chugging) so i slowed down > and gassed up. Then no problem. > > 2nd time, I eased up on the throttle and put the choke full > on. It seemed ok after that. > > Temps were between 36 and 40. So I doubt it was ice. > > Any ideas? Do i need to take it to the dealer? > > > > test'; "> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >

Tengai Mark Van Horn
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carb icing?

Post by Tengai Mark Van Horn » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:25 pm

Carb ice is a real problem for those of us who ride the KLR in sleet and other high-humidity conditions near the freezing point. In the UK, carbs on the KLR have/had a carb heat accessory that taps hot coolant and circulates it around the carb intake. This accessory included a different water pump cover and thermostat cover, both with nipples for the carb coolant lines. Several years ago, I had the chance to buy one off ebay, but my damn job got in the way of my manual bid sniping and I missed out. I never saw one again....Doh! Mark At 8:32 PM +0000 10/16/06, Jim wrote:
>Several things can cause this condition, assuming it's not an >electrical gremlin. >Bad fuel. >Debris in float bowl. >Tank vent not functioning. >Fuel screen(s) blocked. >Vacuum petcock system not functioning. >Emissions system not functioning (CA models). > >Any more? >Good luck and let us know what you find. > >--Jim >A-15 > > > > > >> 2005 KLR650 >> I've begun to run into a problem recently I'm hoping one of >> you can help me with. I'm riding along, early in my trip, I >> gun the engine to pass and the thing sounds like i need to >> switch to reserve. >> >> The first time, i switched to reserve and it kept acting >> like it had no gas (lurching, chugging) so i slowed down >> and gassed up. Then no problem. >> >> 2nd time, I eased up on the throttle and put the choke full >> on. It seemed ok after that. >> >> Temps were between 36 and 40. So I doubt it was ice. >> >> Any ideas? Do i need to take it to the dealer?

Terry Green
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carb icing?

Post by Terry Green » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:46 pm

Not saying it is icing, but the temps you are talking about are not to high for icing to occur. It will with single engine planes at those temps. Remember, the venturi effect within the carb along with the gas misting can cool the temps down to the level you need for this to occur. I am new to the KLR , so I don't know if this is a regular thing. Just saying. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

John
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carb icing?

Post by John » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:49 pm

Had exactly same thing happen to me yesterday. Riding on freeway in very heavy rain and spray. Gassed up, went about 10 miles and it started spluttering, like it was running out of gas. Hammered the throttle and after a about 5 miles it seemed back to normal. My thoughts were; bad gas, a few drops of water in when I was gassing up in the heavy rain, maybe the tank sucked in a lot of very damp air when I opened the gas cap to fill? Really no idea, its perfect today-as perfect as KLR ever gets. So, this whole reply to your question is a waste of your time-shouldn't even read it if I were you! John --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Norm Keller

carb icing?

Post by Norm Keller » Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:25 pm

Check your fuel tank vent hose as they are easy to kink. If you can get it to do the evil, try opening the fuel cap to see if that solves the problem. If you haven't done the float bowl "T" modification, do it as inadequate venting can cause strange symptoms. Are you using a fuel filter? Some have problems with paper filters. Ditto the fuel tank screens. The petcock has given some owners fits with similar symptoms but most have no problems. HIH Norm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tyson Stephenson
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carb icing?

Post by Tyson Stephenson » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:04 pm

I had that happen when I first got my bike. I ran some "gum-be-gone" through the next couple of tanks of gas. That fixed it. The guy I bought it from had left it sitting for a while. Do you ride yours regular enough to keep gum/varnish from forming in the carb? _____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JOHN_HARKINS@... Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:12 AM To: Me Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; MADS_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Carb Icing? I have also experienced the same symptoms on my 2005 KLR. The first time was right after I washed the motorcycle, the bike would not start up. I was careful not to hose around the carb and electrical. When I cranked the ignition, eventually it would just barely catch running and the instant I touched the throttle, it would die. I let the bike sit overnight and the next day it fired right up and ran fine. Soon after I brought the bike in to have the forks tightened up and also to check out why the motor acted the way it did. They couldn't find anything wrong I was advised by the group that you should NOT ever to wash your bike. About a month ago, the bike sputtered as I was riding. I was low on gas so I switched to the reserve it fired right up and soon filled up the tank. After gassing up, I was riding and the bike sputtered again, like it was running out of gas, the motor died and I coasted to the side of the road. I switched back to reserve and it restarted. These occurrences make me a little uneasy about the reliability of the bike if I'm off in no man's land. I wish I could find out the reason it acts like that. _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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