[dsn_klr650] mileage on reserve at approx 50mph.

[Jeff Layton]

Thanks to all who helped answer the "how to carry water" thread earlier. Here's another one for gearing up for a long trip: I have a multi-fuel backpacker's stove which runs on unleaded. It comes with a little .5L alum bottle. I'd like to carry the bottle empty & just fill it from the tank when needed. Short of carrying another piece of gear (a siphon), is there an easy way to drain some fuel (often) without spilling it? I know I could just disconnect the fuel line at the carb, but that would spill, and after time I know I'd break that fuel line in BFE somewhere. I'd like a little tap with a little valve on it. Any ideas? Jeff Layton Austin, TX [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Hedrek]

That reminds me, the little clips to hold the fuel/vacuum lines on my tank are gone and need to be replaced. This was the one dealer set up complaint I had, someone seemed to just squeeze on whatever they could find, not a size that cold be easily removed. So, if you have decent removeable clips, why not just pull the fuel line and stick on an 8in hose to put into your fuel bottle. --- Jeff Layton wrote:

> Thanks to all who helped answer the "how to carry > water" thread earlier. Here's another one for > gearing up for a long trip: > > I have a multi-fuel backpacker's stove which runs on > unleaded. It comes with a little .5L alum bottle. > I'd like to carry the bottle empty & just fill it > from the tank when needed. Short of carrying another > piece of gear (a siphon), is there an easy way to > drain some fuel (often) without spilling it? > > I know I could just disconnect the fuel line at the > carb, but that would spill, and after time I know > I'd break that fuel line in BFE somewhere. I'd like > a little tap with a little valve on it. Any ideas? > > Jeff Layton > Austin, TX > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > >

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[J Fortner]

On 8/29/06, Hedrek wrote:

> > That reminds me, the little clips to hold the > fuel/vacuum lines on my tank are gone and need to be > replaced. This was the one dealer set up complaint I > had, someone seemed to just squeeze on whatever they > could find, not a size that cold be easily removed. >

Buy an assortment of zip ties, they work well for this application and many others on the KLR jf [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Blake Sobiloff]

On 8/29/06, Jeff Layton wrote:

> I know I could just disconnect the fuel line at the carb, but that would spill, > and after time I know I'd break that fuel line in BFE somewhere. I'd like a little > tap with a little valve on it. Any ideas?

Big Cee used to offer a manual petcock conversion kit, IIRC. This was ideal for allowing you to drain fuel, as it got rid of the need to apply a vacuum to get fuel to flow through the petcock. Otherwise, you have to apply a manual vacuum (i.e. suck) to the petcock's vacuum line, and I don't think you'd ever want to be accused of sucking on a petcock! Maybe that cheapie plastic siphon is a better route after all... -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA)

[Jim]

I noticed my wife's "new" bike has a nice setup- the petcock as 3 positions- "ON", "RES" and "PRIME". The prime setting allows fuel to flow freely without the engine running (to fill the float bowls), and would work for draining the tank. The bike is an '81 Kawasaki 440 LTD. Jim

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Blake Sobiloff" wrote: > > On 8/29/06, Jeff Layton wrote: > > I know I could just disconnect the fuel line at the carb, but that would spill, > > and after time I know I'd break that fuel line in BFE somewhere. I'd like a little > > tap with a little valve on it. Any ideas? > > Big Cee used to offer a manual petcock conversion kit, IIRC. This was > ideal for allowing you to drain fuel, as it got rid of the need to > apply a vacuum to get fuel to flow through the petcock. Otherwise, > you have to apply a manual vacuum (i.e. suck) to the petcock's vacuum > line, and I don't think you'd ever want to be accused of sucking on a > petcock! > > Maybe that cheapie plastic siphon is a better route after all... > -- > Blake Sobiloff > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> > San Jose, CA (USA) >

[Jeff Layton]

Hedrek wrote: So, if you have decent removeable clips, why not just pull the fuel line and stick on an 8in hose to put into your fuel bottle. When you pull the fuel line, you always spll a little fuel. I've made a manual petcock conversion kit, so I can drain it without vacuum (or suckng), but the on & off will tear up the hose, as well as mess up that POS little clip...and spill. I'd like to know a better way if there's one out there. Jeff [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[John Biccum]

I would not add complexity to the fuel delivery system by adding another valve to take fuel for the stove. That is just one more thing to break when you are in the boonies. I have a lantern and a camp stove that run on unleaded. I use a "jiggle siphon" to siphon fuel from the KLRs tank to the 8 oz botttle that powers the stove. The siphon also comes in handy for tankering other bikes: http://johnbiccum.smugmug.com/popular/5/21792112 and makes filling the stove bottle a ten second process. Fill the lantern from the stove bottle then fill the stove bottle from the KLR. _____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Layton Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:31 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Frequent Fuel Drainage? Hedrek wrote: So, if you have decent removeable clips, why not just pull the fuel line and stick on an 8in hose to put into your fuel bottle. When you pull the fuel line, you always spll a little fuel. I've made a manual petcock conversion kit, so I can drain it without vacuum (or suckng), but the on & off will tear up the hose, as well as mess up that POS little clip...and spill. I'd like to know a better way if there's one out there. Jeff [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Layton]

Hedrek wrote: So, if you have decent removeable clips, why not just pull the fuel line and stick on an 8in hose to put into your fuel bottle. When you pull the fuel line, you always spll a little fuel. I've made a manual petcock conversion kit, so I can drain it without vacuum (or suckng), but the on & off will tear up the hose, as well as mess up that POS little clip...and spill. I'd like to know a better way if there's one out there. Jeff

[David C.]

At 08:50 PM 8/30/2006 +0000, DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>5c. Re: Frequent Fuel Drainage? > Posted by: "Jeff Layton" jeff@... jeeptherapy > Date: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:50 pm (PDT) > >Hedrek wrote: >So, if you have decent removeable clips, why not just pull the fuel line and >stick on an 8in hose to put into your fuel bottle. > >When you pull the fuel line, you always spll a little fuel. I've made a >manual petcock conversion kit, so I can drain it without vacuum (or suckng), >but the on & off will tear up the hose, as well as mess up that POS little >clip...and spill. > >I'd like to know a better way if there's one out there. > >Jeff

http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/Gas-Tank-Quick-Disconnect-p-17075.html Dave C

[Jeff Layton]

Thanks, Dave C - you're the one with the solution! You rock! http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/Gas-Tank-Quick-Disconnect-p-17075.html Jeff L. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]