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[PATRICK J. CASSELS]

Hi there....For your information............Headlight Modulators are legal in Canada as well...I have instaled a switch so that when I am directly behind someone I can shut them off as I don't want to give that driver the idea that I am an Emergency Vehicle and trying to pass him or pull him over. Pat Chick Magnet Red A19

----- Original Message ----- From: Thor Lancelot Simon To: Michael Hightower Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Loud Pipes Save Lives On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 12:22:23AM -0500, Michael Hightower wrote: > > ....and I notice those bikes with headlight modulators much sooner than I > notice the bikes with loud exhausts. Hmmmm.... - Blake > > Absotively. > > I don't get why modulators are illegal in a number of states. They are not. Where did you hear that they are? Federal law _requires_ all states to allow headlight modulators on motorcycles. Thor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Michael Hightower]

On 8/17/06, Michael Hightower wrote:

>> >> >> I'll throw in my two cents. It can certainly be argued that the sound >> of a motorcycle is part of its defensive strategy. >>

--And then he wrote a bunch more that said a lot more stuff... --And then JF wrote:

>>That is simply horsecock. Imagine if you will you are in a car on a

straight two lane highway you see a headlight modulator in the distance say two miles up the road another bike with no headlight modulator, both have the same exhaust sound. Which is going to get your attention soonest? Which would you be less likely to left hand turn in front of because "you didn't see the motor cycle"? No one ever says I didn't hear the motorcycle. Real situation except I was on a bike and the headlight modulator caught my eye probably close to five miles out near the very large array antennas in New Mexico.

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Holm wrote:

> > Well said and I couldn't agree more. But here is another point. Those biggest and baddest

and loudest bikes these 'parade people' ride are also the slowest and worse handling bikes on the road, for all the cubes they have and the noise they make! Every time I hear one, I recall the line from Macbeth: "...a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Chait" wrote:

> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John & Rosie Wong" > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:00 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Loud Pipes Save Lives > > > > I'm not a big fan of loud pipes. But, I will say this. I live in CA > > where lane splitting is legal. I notice much sooner the loud bikes > > splitting lanes before I notice the ones with the quiet pipes. My KLR > > has a stock pipe and I startle a lot of folks when idling 5mph through > > traffic to a stop light. > > > > John > > > > > I will also add that the comments that the exhaust is not heard by motorists > in front of the back because the pipes point back are also not accurate > > When I ride my Sportster, I notice people in front of me turn their heads > and look back because they hear my bike coming. > > Sound is not unidirectional. It bounces off of structures and reflects in > all directions. This is known as acoustic scattering. > > I am ambivalent about loud pipes. I believe that idiots who have no > consideration for others create a lot of negativity towards bikers with > them, but I also am completely convinced that they do make others more aware > of my presence. >

Do you think it makes you safer if the noise makes the car driver want to run into you?

[Ed Chait]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jud Jones" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Loud Pipes Save Lives > I will also add that the comments that the exhaust is not heard by > motorists > in front of the back because the pipes point back are also not accurate > > When I ride my Sportster, I notice people in front of me turn their heads > and look back because they hear my bike coming. > > Sound is not unidirectional. It bounces off of structures and reflects in > all directions. This is known as acoustic scattering. > > I am ambivalent about loud pipes. I believe that idiots who have no > consideration for others create a lot of negativity towards bikers with > them, but I also am completely convinced that they do make others more > aware > of my presence. > >>>Do you think it makes you safer if the noise makes the car driver want to >>>run into you? I don't often encounter people who are sociopathic to that degree. Your mileage, of course, may vary. ed A17

[J Fortner]

On 8/17/06, Ed Chait wrote:

> > JJ said: > > >>>Do you think it makes you safer if the noise makes the car driver want > to > >>>run into you? > > I don't often encounter people who are sociopathic to that degree. Your > mileage, of course, may vary. >

Ed you are very lucky. It is not uncommon on Texas county for riders to be run off the road for simply riding the wrong "type" of motorcycle or even riding a motorcycle. Believe it or not some people do not like motorcycles or riders. Let alone pissing a not quite right car or truck driver off with noise or poor riding practices. jf [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Kimosabe]

Yeah! Another good one!

> Every time I hear one, I recall the line from Macbeth: "...a tale

told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

[Stuart Mumford]

PS I forgot the Cheers CA Stu

[Don S]

Come on Stu! You weren't joking were you? Say it isn't so. I just went out and did the same thing! Douhhh! Don Stuart Mumford wrote: PS I forgot the Cheers CA Stu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Norm Keller]

Don posted:

>there will always be a percentage of drivers out >there in the brown zone, with their heads two >feet up their own asses.

I'm very offended by your comment regarding "2 feet". Next time you decide to make a similar comment please be so kind as to include the metric equivalent. There, that told you! (Running for cover....) Norm (chuckle) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]