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Alan L Henderson
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by Alan L Henderson » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:42 am
matteeanne@... wrote:
> Same reason they cant wheely. The corialus (sp)
> effect. It's common knowledge in the motorcycle world.
>
> The dynamic inversion coupler relies on fabristic
> influx to transfer the energy. Thus the retrinsion
> bearings over ride transferance from condusive to
> semi-condusive. This is the same reason you can NEVER
> store a computer, or anything magnetized on a shaft
> drive bike. Well, you can but it will never work
> again.
Whoa! At first, I thought George W had posted to our group.
Alan Henderson A13 Iowa

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Stephen Grisanti
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by Stephen Grisanti » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:20 am
>This is the same reason you can NEVER
> store a computer, or anything magnetized on a shaft
> drive bike. Well, you can but it will never work
> again.
That all makes perfect sense except you need to
clarify which won't work, the bike or the computer?
--- Alan L Henderson
wrote:
> matteeanne@... wrote:
> > Same reason they cant wheely. The corialus (sp)
> > effect. It's common knowledge in the motorcycle
> world.
> >
> > The dynamic inversion coupler relies on fabristic
> > influx to transfer the energy. Thus the retrinsion
> > bearings over ride transferance from condusive to
> > semi-condusive. This is the same reason you can
> NEVER
> > store a computer, or anything magnetized on a
> shaft
> > drive bike. Well, you can but it will never work
> > again.
>
>
> Whoa! At first, I thought George W had posted to our
> group.
>
> Alan Henderson A13 Iowa

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Matt Knowles
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by Matt Knowles » Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:21 pm
On Jun 12, 2006, at 7:01 PM, Norm Keller wrote:
> I can't remember who started the "shaft drives can't" but several old
> timers
> come to mind as possible culprits.
It goes way back from the early days of reading rec.moto newsgroups. I
probably first read a "shaft drives can't..." back in 1994 or 95.
Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA -
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'99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA)
'01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads
'97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt
'79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned
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Stephen Grisanti
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by Stephen Grisanti » Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:04 pm
My other bike has a fully enclosed chain drive, so I
suppose I'm perfectly prepped at this point to counter
(so to speak) with a quip about its capabilities, and
I bet damn few of you have experience with a bike like
that.
It can FLY!!! Honest!
Stephen, who occasionally knows whereof he speaks
--- Norm Keller wrote:
> You are relatively new to the DSN_650 list so you
> bit on the "shaft drive
> bikes can't"...theme. Someone started this a couple
> of years ago on the
> theme of "shaft drives can't wheelie" and lots of us
> bit on that hook. This
> was just another example of trailing a hook....
> (VBG)
>
> The funny thing about so many of these things is
> that it really shows how
> many things we all "know" but can't prove or
> personally attest to. I really
> became aware of this factor when testifying in court
> as an expert witness.
>
> I can't remember who started the "shaft drives
> can't" but several old timers
> come to mind as possible culprits. (VBG) I just wish
> that I had been the
> first rather than a follower....
>
> Running for cover,
>
> Norm
>
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Mike Peplinski
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by Mike Peplinski » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:48 am
Its obvious that shaft driven bikes can't countersteer because of the
driver. Only HUMAN driven bikes can really do anything.
>From:
>To: John Ford , Ronald Criswell
>
>CC:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: The science behind our steering
>Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 06:52:08 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Same reason they cant wheely. The corialus (sp)
>effect. It's common knowledge in the motorcycle world.
>
>The dynamic inversion coupler relies on fabristic
>influx to transfer the energy. Thus the retrinsion
>bearings over ride transferance from condusive to
>semi-condusive. This is the same reason you can NEVER
>store a computer, or anything magnetized on a shaft
>drive bike. Well, you can but it will never work
>again.
>
>--- John Ford wrote:
>
> > Perhaps Gynoscopic? Or is that the effect that
> > keeps us in the stirrups?
> >

> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On 6/13/06, Ronald Criswell
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It is the gyroscopic effect. Or the Ginoscopic
> > effect. I forget which.
> > >
> > > Criswell
> > > On Jun 12, 2006, at 10:09 AM, scarysharkface
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Once again, I'll bite. Explain to me why and how
> > shaft-driven bikes
> > > are unable to counter-steer. As of yet I have seen
> > zero evidence for
> > > that claim.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
> > , "Norm
> > > Keller" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >"Countersteering
> > > >
> > > > Shaft drive bikes can't countersteer.
> > > >
> > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
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>rejoice" amen
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Cloyce D. Spradling
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by Cloyce D. Spradling » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:48 am
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 06:44:42AM -0500, Mike Peplinski wrote:
: Its obvious that shaft driven bikes can't countersteer because of the
: driver. Only HUMAN driven bikes can really do anything.
Like "Motorcycles don't countersteer. PEOPLE countersteer"? Hmmm... that
does go well with "You can have my motorcycle when you pry it from my cold,
dead hands."

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Tony JONES
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by Tony JONES » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:31 pm
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "firefighter_joe05"
wrote:
>
> The narrow ones are 1 3/16" wide. I'm not sure on the wide ones. I'll
> try to get Casey to reply. He has them on his bike. They look to be
> about 2" wide or so...
They are 1 1/2" wide.
Length is 3" on the leading edge. 4" when measured from the back of
the footpeg bracket.
Tony
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