favourite modifications - reserve gas on the right side???

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Jud Jones
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favourite modifications - what's the deal with reserve?

Post by Jud Jones » Sat May 27, 2006 6:04 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:
> > I don't know but the KLR petcock should not be taken lightly. Its not a > simple on-off switch. Someone has done a thread or instructional on tapping > into the right side. Maybe a lister can help. > >
It must have been four years ago or so that someone tried runnung a siphon to the RH side of the tank. I forget the final verdict: either it didn't work too well, or it wasn't worth the trouble for the small amount of fuel it made available. You can always get a few miles by leaning the bike way over to the left.

James W. Flower
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favourite modifications - what's the deal with reserve?

Post by James W. Flower » Sat May 27, 2006 7:34 pm

I've attached Skip Faulkner's Fuel Tank Mod, in Word (It's Word for Mac, so tell me if you can't open it). I don't know Skip, but thanks to him for the idea. Also, I think there MAY be a version with pictures floating around on one of the KLR sites. I'll post it if I find it. ---------- --JW Flower
> From: "fasteddiecopeman" fasteddiecopeman@... > Date: Sat May 27, 2006 9:28am(PDT) > Subject: Re: Favourite Modifications - What's the deal with reserve? > > A while back, someone posted their cure, wherein they added line to > access the fuel in the > right side when on reserve. I thought I'd kept it, but no. > Ed
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Norm Keller

favourite modifications - what's the deal with reserve?

Post by Norm Keller » Sat May 27, 2006 8:39 pm

Now you've done it, Don! Don't you know that you're not supposed to explain that the Canadian gallon is bigger than the US? You've ruined the fun. You're supposed to explain our better mileage by saying that the reason we get better mileage is because our gas comes directly from the oil wells but the US gas gets watered down. I used to have endless fun at the family's service station explaining all kinds of things to tourists. I'm sure that some went home and wrote letters of complaint! (VBG) We used to get a lot of tourists come in and ask where they could go to find gold. Now every kid pumping gas around here in the 1960's used to know where you could go to pick up a couple of pounds of gold so they were asking the right guy. I used to look a bit confused and ask whether they wanted placer or quartzite gold? They wouldn't know so I'd explain that quartzite gold was found in solid rock and extracted by drilling and blasting while placer gold was found in alluvial deposits in old water courses and could be extracted by gold panning. The lights would come on and they'd say, "Yes, we want to pan for gold!" "Oh," I'd say, " The problem isn't in finding placer gold but finding black magnetic sand. You see, placer gold is usually found in the presence of black magnetic sand." "Great ", they'd say, "Where can we find black magnetic sand?" "That's no problem. Just go down to the corner there and drive straight down to the stop sign. Don't turn off, go right down to the stop sign. It's a couple of miles. Turn right and stay on that road. It will turn into a dike along the river. Follow the dike until the road turns down toward the river then you can park anywhere and walk out onto a gravel bar. Just walk around until you find some sand which is pointing North." The ones who laughed of got mad were one thing but the ones who thanked me and drove of with a look of concentration really made me bust a gut. Of course my Dad caught me a couple of times and kicked my butt. It was still worth it. (VBG) Norm

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favourite modifications - what's the deal with reserve?

Post by steve_mar » Sat May 27, 2006 10:50 pm

Not much of a mech person, but just took the valve apart this morning, not really that complex, but would not want to do it without the help of old mr. Clymer. Seriously $30 is never better spent than on those books(the schematic is probably also in the factory manual-I havent looked at that since I got the Clymer). Be prepared to replace the O-rings, the ones from the hardware store are too thick..As far as the reserve, I am no inventor but it seems like way too much hassle to tap the right side of the tank. If you run out of reserve, lay the bike down on the left side and you can get that extra juice..
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote: > > I don't know but the KLR petcock should not be taken lightly. Its not a > simple on-off switch. Someone has done a thread or instructional on tapping > into the right side. Maybe a lister can help. > > > >From: Don S > >To: Mike Peplinski , fasteddiecopeman@..., > >DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Favourite Modifications - What's the deal > >with reserve? > >Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 06:34:46 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Thanks for the explanation Mike. > > > > Just out of curriosity, does the petcock assembly come right off of the > >fuel tank and if so, would it be possible to put a small piece of fuel line > >to work as a pick-up for the inaccessible fuel? > > > > Don > > > >Mike Peplinski wrote: > > Yes, big problem. In case you haven' t noticed the fuel pickup is only > >on > >one side but the reserve fuel is evenly split so the reaminder of the gas > >on > >the right hand side of the frame hump is inaccessible. Thats about half of > >your reserve which means you've now only got about 30 miles. Than the > >possiblity that you won't get a full 60MPG plus the possibility that you > >won't get every drop in the tank could mean 20 miles. I think you can see > >where this could go. Sure you can tilt the bike and get some of the gas on > >the right side but the point is that you very likely don't have a full 1.13 > >gallons of fuel to work with. Too bad there isn't a fuel gage or indicator > >for the KLR. Any clever inventor-types out there? > > > > > > >From: Don S > > >To: fasteddiecopeman , > > >DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Favourite Modifications - What's the deal > > >with reserve? > > >Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >I noticed a reference to reserve. Second time for this thread. What is > > >the deal with reserve? I hit reserve a few days ago and stopped to fuel > >up > > >a few minutes later. It took only 18.7 litres fo fill it. That means I > > >should have 4.3 litres or 1.13 gallons of fuel left in reserve. That > > >should be good for 60+ miles. Is there a problem accessing the fuel and > >if > > >so, what's the fix? > > > > > > Don S. > > > > > >fasteddiecopeman wrote: > > > Norm, > > >MINE had to be changing out the (appeared to still have useable tread) > >OEM > > >Dunlop front > > >tire for a 3.25 x 21 K270. NOW my front end doesn't wash-out on snotty > > >surfaces... and I > > >don't have to change my underwear as often DURING rides! > > >Ed > > > > > >PS Oh yah - and putting gas in ASAP after hitting reserve! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com >

Bogdan Swider
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favourite modifications - reserve gas on the right side???

Post by Bogdan Swider » Sun May 28, 2006 9:36 am

On 5/27/06 5:17 PM, "Spike55" wrote:
> In the Bigcee's KLR650 FAQs the following link in under known issues: > http://www.bigcee.com/faq/fuelmod.html I haven't read through it or > done it but it's a starting point. >
Yup that's it. Skip - years ago - was an active contributor to this list. Because of the places I ride I was desperate for more reserve. When I heard Skip would be at the Moab rally I organized a tech session where a few of us installed the mod under his tutelage. I eventually took it off. Here's why: The line would bounce when the tank was half full or less. Then the flow of gas was interrupted and the engine could and usually would stutter. Plus, there was sometimes not enough suck to pull gas though the long line - remember no help from gravity. Anyway... The mod was more trouble than it was worth. Maybe JW will have better luck. To slightly change the subject, with a headwind forget counting miles as a reliable guide to what's left in the tank. Bogdan, who's now happy since he finally solved the problem and now has 1 1/4 gallons on reserve

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