waxing a klr 650

[Jerry Ockwig]

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[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

The XR is a dirt bike. It is designed to tear up the dirt, and it does it well. It is more powerful, better torque, and is designed to get dirty. The KLR is 50% street machine, and does the dirt good, road good, has an incredibly reliable design, and can handle givi luggage for round' the world trips like a pro. Parts are cheap and readily available on the entire planet. The XR is a samarai sword, designed for killing, and is irreplaceable ($ replaceable) the KLR is a swiss army knife, sure it can kill, but it can open beer cans and you can burn ants with the magnafying glass. --- Jerry Ockwig wrote:

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[Doug Herr]

On Sat, 3 Sep 2005, Jerry Ockwig wrote:

> Which should I buy and why?

Q: You want better dirt ability? A: Yes Then: get the Honda. Q: You want better long range street ability? A: No Then: get the Kawasaki. -- Doug Herr doug@...

[Luc Legrain]

Where did you get a swiss army knife with a magnifying glass ? Mine dont have one matteeanne@... wrote: The XR is a dirt bike. It is designed to tear up the dirt, and it does it well. It is more powerful, better torque, and is designed to get dirty. The KLR is 50% street machine, and does the dirt good, road good, has an incredibly reliable design, and can handle givi luggage for round' the world trips like a pro. Parts are cheap and readily available on the entire planet. The XR is a samarai sword, designed for killing, and is irreplaceable ($ replaceable) the KLR is a swiss army knife, sure it can kill, but it can open beer cans and you can burn ants with the magnafying glass. --- Jerry Ockwig wrote:

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[Wolfy]

The XRL and KLR are 2 manufactures design approaches for the same purpose, a Dual sport. The XR650R was designed to be the off road Killer that someone had mentioned. The 650L was design to be the on / off road all purpose bike. I think the KLR has the 650L beat for on road use. Biggest reason for me is that the KLR is liquid cooled and the 650L is air. That is a very import thing when on hot days you are stuck in traffic, the KLR can sit there all day with no issues (yes the KLR also needs air cooling but it is not as critical as the 650L). The 650L needs air moving over the engine to keep it cool so sitting in traffic for 45min and not moving is bad unless you keep stopping and starting the bike. I've seen more KLR's on the road than 650L's, I think they just have a bigger following. I've done things a bit different. I'm selling my KLR600 and I just put a deposit down on a 2000 XR650R that is Mass street legal. The selling points for me on the 650R is it's size and weight are smaller than the KLR, it is liquid cooled also, more after market parts support, OEM parts are cheaper and I like the looks better. KLR vs. XR650L KLR better looking KLR better on road / long trip use KLR liquid cooled KLR more options (racks, parts....) Go with the KLR -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Ockwig Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 12:10 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] KLR650 or XR650L Which should I buy and why? Thanks, Jerry --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links

[Eric Lee Green]

Jerry Ockwig wrote:

>Which should I buy and why? > >

XR650L: You want a dirt bike with lights so that you can ride a few miles to a dirt riding area. KLR650: You want a bike that you can ride a thousand miles, go up a washed-out Forest Service road to a primo camping site, then ride a thousand miles back. Two different bikes. Two different reasons to buy. Pick your poison. -E

[Michael Silverstein]

The latest (October) issue of "Road Runner" magazine, besides being one of the best all around MC magazines in circulation, has a 650 dual sport comparison of the Honda XR650L, Suzuki DR650, KLR650 and BMW F650GS Dakar. Out of four reviewers two of them picked the KLR650 and those who favored dirt riding more went for the XR650L. The last two and upcoming issues of "Dual Sport News" contain a three-part review of the XR650L. Mike A18 (with way too many mototcycle magazine subscriptions)

> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wolfy > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 2:01 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] KLR650 or XR650L > > > The XRL and KLR are 2 manufactures design approaches for the > same purpose, a Dual sport. > > The XR650R was designed to be the off road Killer that > someone had mentioned. The 650L was design to be the on / off > road all purpose bike. > > I think the KLR has the 650L beat for on road use. > Biggest reason for me is that the KLR is liquid cooled and > the 650L is air. That is a very import thing when on hot days > you are stuck in traffic, the KLR can sit there all day with > no issues (yes the KLR also needs air cooling but it is not > as critical as the 650L). The 650L needs air moving over the > engine to keep it cool so sitting in traffic for 45min and > not moving is bad unless you keep stopping and starting the bike. > > I've seen more KLR's on the road than 650L's, I think they > just have a bigger following. > > > I've done things a bit different. I'm selling my KLR600 and I > just put a deposit down on a 2000 XR650R that is Mass street > legal. The selling points for me on the 650R is it's size and > weight are smaller than the KLR, it is liquid cooled also, > more after market parts support, OEM parts are cheaper and I > like the looks better. > > KLR vs. XR650L > > KLR better looking > KLR better on road / long trip use > KLR liquid cooled > KLR more options (racks, parts....) > > Go with the KLR > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Ockwig > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 12:10 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] KLR650 or XR650L > > Which should I buy and why? > Thanks, > Jerry > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List > sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List > sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release > Date: 9/2/2005 > >

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[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

Heck mine also has a laser beam and ball point pen! --- Luc Legrain wrote:

> Where did you get a swiss army knife with a > magnifying glass ? Mine dont have one > > > matteeanne@... wrote: The XR is a dirt bike. > It is designed to tear up the > dirt, and it does it well. It is more powerful, > better > torque, and is designed to get dirty. > The KLR is 50% street machine, and does the dirt > good, > road good, has an incredibly reliable design, and > can > handle givi luggage for round' the world trips like > a > pro. Parts are cheap and readily available on the > entire planet. > The XR is a samarai sword, designed for killing, and > is irreplaceable ($ replaceable) the KLR is a swiss > army knife, sure it can kill, but it can open beer > cans and you can burn ants with the magnafying > glass. > > --- Jerry Ockwig wrote: > > > Which should I buy and why? > > Thanks, > > Jerry > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home > page > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > >

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[Luc Legrain]

Funny !!!! matteeanne@... wrote:Heck mine also has a laser beam and ball point pen! --- Luc Legrain wrote:

> Where did you get a swiss army knife with a > magnifying glass ? Mine dont have one > > > matteeanne@... wrote: The XR is a dirt bike. > It is designed to tear up the > dirt, and it does it well. It is more powerful, > better > torque, and is designed to get dirty. > The KLR is 50% street machine, and does the dirt > good, > road good, has an incredibly reliable design, and > can > handle givi luggage for round' the world trips like > a > pro. Parts are cheap and readily available on the > entire planet. > The XR is a samarai sword, designed for killing, and > is irreplaceable ($ replaceable) the KLR is a swiss > army knife, sure it can kill, but it can open beer > cans and you can burn ants with the magnafying > glass. > > --- Jerry Ockwig wrote: > > > Which should I buy and why? > > Thanks, > > Jerry > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home > page > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > >

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[Arden Kysely]

With an aftermarket gas tank, the XR-L becomes much more like the KLR, only air-cooled instead of water cooled. I've done a couple of 1500 mile summer adventure tours through southern Utah with a friend who has an XR-L and his bike did just as well as mine. Yes, the Honda is a better dirt bike, but it's not that bad of a street bike, either. And it's far from being a dirt-only machine like the R (?) model. I'd say the KLR's main advantages off the showroom floor for are range and ease of carrying stuff, but you can buy racks for the XR. It's a tough decision, but if you're going to compare the XR and KLR, you might as well include in the equation. The XR and DR are more alike each other than the KLR is to either. Final advice: Buy the KLR and spend your time with a groovy bunch of guys who rarely agree on anything. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lee Green wrote:

> Jerry Ockwig wrote: > > >Which should I buy and why? > > > > > XR650L: You want a dirt bike with lights so that you can ride a few > miles to a dirt riding area. > > KLR650: You want a bike that you can ride a thousand miles, go up a > washed-out Forest Service road to a primo camping site, then ride a > thousand miles back. > > Two different bikes. Two different reasons to buy. Pick your poison. > > -E