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[digital-dualsport@jam.rr.com]

Every time Ive had that problem a new spark plug fixed it up. Being a single cylinder a good sparky is a must. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Thomas J Komjathy]

Glacier Here's one fer ya! When I start my KiLleR, it will idle poorly (as in weak) then suddenly, like someone threw a switch it idles well. Conditions are cold (relative) 20F or less, choke on. The engine doesn't do it when warm. I'm thinking it may be the automatic compression release sticking and then releasing. Whacha all think bout dat? TK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest]

If it was the compression release you'd hear a frightening clackity clack wouldn't you? It could be the choke cable sticking a bit and as it warms and releases the "switch" goes on... My clutch cable has been sticking in the cold recently (mostly on those 3-10F days with sub-zero windchills). dat brooklyn bum --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas J Komjathy" wrote:

> Glacier Here's one fer ya! When I start my KiLleR, it will idle

poorly (as in weak) then suddenly, like someone threw a switch it idles well. Conditions are cold (relative) 20F or less, choke on. The engine doesn't do it when warm. I'm thinking it may be the automatic compression release sticking and then releasing. Whacha all think bout dat?

> > TK > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Thomas J Komjathy]

No necessarily. If the CR is sticking it would just suddenly release, if it were broken, it would most likely clickety clack, or is that tick, tick, crunch?

----- Original Message ----- From: To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:03 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Hard starting > If it was the compression release you'd hear a frightening clackity > clack wouldn't you? It could be the choke cable sticking a bit and as > it warms and releases the "switch" goes on... My clutch cable has > been sticking in the cold recently (mostly on those 3-10F days with > sub-zero windchills). > > dat brooklyn bum > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas J Komjathy" > wrote: > > Glacier Here's one fer ya! When I start my KiLleR, it will idle > poorly (as in weak) then suddenly, like someone threw a switch it > idles well. Conditions are cold (relative) 20F or less, choke on. The > engine doesn't do it when warm. I'm thinking it may be the automatic > compression release sticking and then releasing. Whacha all think > bout dat? > > > > TK > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[guymanbro]

Aahhh, gotcha sticking as in in not releasing at first... Could be as simple as the oil too. What weight you running? dat brooklyn bum --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas J Komjathy" wrote:

> No necessarily. If the CR is sticking it would just suddenly

release, if it

> were broken, it would most likely clickety clack, or is that tick,

tick,

> crunch? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:03 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Hard starting > > > > If it was the compression release you'd hear a frightening

clackity

> > clack wouldn't you? It could be the choke cable sticking a bit

and as

> > it warms and releases the "switch" goes on... My clutch cable has > > been sticking in the cold recently (mostly on those 3-10F days

with

> > sub-zero windchills). > > > > dat brooklyn bum > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas J Komjathy"

> > wrote: > > > Glacier Here's one fer ya! When I start my KiLleR, it will idle > > poorly (as in weak) then suddenly, like someone threw a switch it > > idles well. Conditions are cold (relative) 20F or less, choke on.

The

> > engine doesn't do it when warm. I'm thinking it may be the

automatic

> > compression release sticking and then releasing. Whacha all think > > bout dat? > > > > > > TK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List

FAQ

> courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

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> > > >

[Thomas J Komjathy]

I've used this oil exclusively with no prior problems.

----- Original Message ----- From: To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Hard starting > Aahhh, gotcha sticking as in in not releasing at first... Could be as > simple as the oil too. What weight you running? > > dat brooklyn bum > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas J Komjathy" > wrote: > > No necessarily. If the CR is sticking it would just suddenly > release, if it > > were broken, it would most likely clickety clack, or is that tick, > tick, > > crunch? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:03 AM > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Hard starting > > > > > > > If it was the compression release you'd hear a frightening > clackity > > > clack wouldn't you? It could be the choke cable sticking a bit > and as > > > it warms and releases the "switch" goes on... My clutch cable has > > > been sticking in the cold recently (mostly on those 3-10F days > with > > > sub-zero windchills). > > > > > > dat brooklyn bum > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas J Komjathy" > > > > wrote: > > > > Glacier Here's one fer ya! When I start my KiLleR, it will idle > > > poorly (as in weak) then suddenly, like someone threw a switch it > > > idles well. Conditions are cold (relative) 20F or less, choke on. > The > > > engine doesn't do it when warm. I'm thinking it may be the > automatic > > > compression release sticking and then releasing. Whacha all think > > > bout dat? > > > > > > > > TK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List > FAQ > > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[guymanbro@excite.com]

I've had hard starting with my KTM which still has 15/50 in it as well. I recently changed the oil on my KLR to 5/40 and it doesn't seem to mind the cold. Might be worth a shot since it's cheap and simple to test. dat brooklyn bum

--- On Fri 02/07, Thomas J Komjathy < dskinc@... > wrote: From: Thomas J Komjathy [mailto: dskinc@...] To: guymanbro@... Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:04:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: Hard starting 15w50 Mobile 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Hard starting > Aahhh, gotcha sticking as in in not releasing at first... Could be as > simple as the oil too. What weight you running? > > dat brooklyn bum > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas J Komjathy" > wrote: > > No necessarily. If the CR is sticking it would just suddenly > release, if it > > were broken, it would most likely clickety clack, or is that tick, > tick, > > crunch? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:03 AM > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Hard starting > > > > > > > If it was the compression release you'd hear a frightening > clackity > > > clack wouldn't you? It could be the choke cable sticking a bit > and as > > > it warms and releases the "switch" goes on... My clutch cable has > > > been sticking in the cold recently (mostly on those 3-10F days > with > > > sub-zero windchills). > > > > > > dat brooklyn bum > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas J Komjathy" > > > > wrote: > > > > Glacier Here's one fer ya! When I start my KiLleR, it will idle > > > poorly (as in weak) then suddenly, like someone threw a switch it > > > idles well. Conditions are cold (relative) 20F or less, choke on. > The > > > engine doesn't do it when warm. I'm thinking it may be the > automatic > > > compression release sticking and then releasing. Whacha all think > > > bout dat? > > > > > > > > TK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List > FAQ > > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

[doneworkin1248]

I am new to the KLR650 world and new to this group. I could use some help. The bike is used but seems well cared for. The only problem this far is hard starting. If I use the choke it will fire but fails to keep running. I have tried variations of choke and throttle but nothing works. If I do get it to fire and baby it along until it warms a little then it runs and restarts just fine. If I get it running using the choke and touch the throttle to keep it running it shuts down right away. If I try to start it without the choke I get nothing. I would think that these things are designed to start fairly easy or I would have read more about the problem. The bike came with a jet kit in it. It also came with another entire parts bike (bought from insurance company after accident). I was having the starting problems so I switched out carbs for the stock one on the parts bike. Things didn't change any. perhaps there is a choke adjustment that I need to know about. Any help would be apprecitated. Roy

[Devon]

Assuming nothing else is wrong, you might have the idle speed set a little bit too low. Try turning up the idle a little. The bike shouldn't start without the choke (pretty much anywhere much below 60 deg), this is correct. Either the carb is a little dirty (and possibly both could be), the idle mixture screw is set a little too lean, the idle speed is set a little too low, or small amounts of all three. Devon doneworkin1248@... wrote:

>I am new to the KLR650 world and new to this group. I could use some >help. The bike is used but seems well cared for. The only problem >this far is hard starting. If I use the choke it will fire but fails >to keep running. I have tried variations of choke and throttle but >nothing works. If I do get it to fire and baby it along until it >warms a little then it runs and restarts just fine. If I get it >running using the choke and touch the throttle to keep it running it >shuts down right away. If I try to start it without the choke I get >nothing. I would think that these things are designed to start fairly >easy or I would have read more about the problem. The bike came with >a jet kit in it. It also came with another entire parts bike (bought >from insurance company after accident). I was having the starting >problems so I switched out carbs for the stock one on the parts bike. >Things didn't change any. perhaps there is a choke adjustment that I >need to know about. Any help would be apprecitated. > >Roy > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[klr6501995]

You do have fresh gas right ? get a bottle with hose to supply fuel to the carb or drain the tank. youll need to apply vacume to the little hose behind the fuel line at the petcock. drain with the reserve on. drain the carb at the screw on the bottom side of the carb bowl. bad gas kicks a** all the time. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "doneworkin1248" wrote:

> I am new to the KLR650 world and new to this group. I could use

some

> help. The bike is used but seems well cared for. The only problem > this far is hard starting. If I use the choke it will fire but

fails

> to keep running. I have tried variations of choke and throttle but > nothing works. If I do get it to fire and baby it along until it > warms a little then it runs and restarts just fine. If I get it > running using the choke and touch the throttle to keep it running

it

> shuts down right away. If I try to start it without the choke I get > nothing. I would think that these things are designed to start

fairly

> easy or I would have read more about the problem. The bike came

with

> a jet kit in it. It also came with another entire parts bike

(bought

> from insurance company after accident). I was having the starting > problems so I switched out carbs for the stock one on the parts

bike.

> Things didn't change any. perhaps there is a choke adjustment that

I

> need to know about. Any help would be apprecitated. > > Roy