xr650r? nklr

[bigfatgreenbike]

lasvegasrider@... wrote:

>OK, back to KLR stuff - Tall guys need high ride handlebars - still no info >( tears...) >

I use Renthal ATV bars meant for a Raptor. Look up this bend, which has at least 1" or 1.5" more height than stock, and try to find something with a little LESS pullback than the Raptor bend. I like high bars for stand-up riding, but at 5'8" I like the pullback on the raptor bend. Taller people would like the height but want the grips further forward. Devon

[Mike Torst]

Intermission:

>Two Men and A Woman - WHO WILL BE THE NEXT AGENT? > >The CIA had an opening for an assassin. After all of the background >checks, interviews, and testing were done there were three finalists, >two men and a woman. > >For the final test, the CIA agents took one of the men to a large metal >door and handed him a gun. "We must know that you will follow our >instructions, no matter what the circumstances. Inside this room, you >will find your wife sitting in a chair. Kill her. > >The man said, "You can't be serious. I could never shoot my wife." > >The agent said, "Then you're not the right man for this job." > >The second man was given the same instructions. He took the gun and >went into the room. All was quiet for about five minutes. > >Then the man came out with tears in his eyes. "I tried, but I can't kill >my wife." > >The agent said, "You don't have what it takes. Take your wife and go >home." > >Finally, it was the woman's turn. She was given the same instructions, >to kill her husband. She took the gun and went into the room. Shots >were heard, one shot after another. They heard screaming, crashing, >banging on the walls. After a few minutes, all was quiet. The door >opened slowly and there stood the woman. > >She wiped the sweat from her brow and said, "You guys didn't tell me >the gun was loaded with blanks. I had to beat him to death with the >chair."

Mike Torst A16 aka lasvegasrider -----Original Message----- From: rm@... [mailto:rm@...] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:21 PM To: Joseph Jones Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR election

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Joseph Jones wrote: >The Iraqi war is about fighting terrorist across the waters. If we had >not invaded Iraq we would be fighting the terrorist here in the USA. Tell me how having troops in Iraq is going to stop a nutcase from hijacking a plane in the US. Football rules do not apply to war and terrorism, Joe. RM List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links

[bigfatgreenbike]

matteeanne@... wrote:

>I love it when people say "Well, the people who took >out the trade center towers are not in Iraq", true, >but the people who lop off heads on live video are >there, and they will do just fine for now, lets hunt >them down in the mean time. Radical Muslim Extremists >are everywhere, there just happens to be a goldmine of >them in Iraq right now. Not to mention, once western >culture, and freedom take root, there is no going >back. (see USSR/Germany/Indonesia, etc, etc,) >

USSR: rampant corruption, organized crime, environmental disaster with poor security of Soviet-era WMDs and convential weapons. The dissolution of the USSR has in some ways DECREASED world security due to the tag sale of high powered weapons. Germany: Marshall plan cost what would be many, many billions of today's dollars, and SIXTY YEARS LATER we still have troops stationed there. Germany turned out OK, but remember it's a white Christian country (or was then, now add a dash of Turkish and African) and was culturally MUCH closer to the US. Plus, they needed us to prevent them from becoming a Soviet Satellite republic. Indonesia: Islamic extremism, pogroms again Christian ethnic-Chinese merchant class (I guess since they don't have any Jews handy), invasion and occupation of East Timor, etc... Any other shining success stories? So, you admit that Al Qaeda is NOT in Iraq, but you think chasing down the people who have been kidnapping aid workers and beheading them, is worth over a thousand US combat deaths, over 10,000 Iraqi deaths, and all of the wounded? That's CRAZY. Crazy. No really, crazy. Devon

[Joseph Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, bigfatgreenbike wrote:

> > > asbestosworkers@y... wrote: > > > > >but the people in Ca. Ny. Fl. and large cities will be involved > >directly in the war. > > > > We already were involved here in NY. You are now officially named > "Master Of The Obvious" (you may sign MOTO after your name from now

on,

> just like an OBE or PHD (Order of the British Empire and Piled High

and

> Deep, respectively).

The world trade center was bombed twice that I remember. May have been more. Once with a car bomb then a plane? The terrorist bombings I am talking about will not be targeted at one building, I'm talking about wide spread bombings.

> > We WERE fighting the terrorists overseas (Afghanistan), the very

same

> terrorists responsible for the bombing of the USS Cole, the two

embassy

> bombings in Africa, and the World Trade Center airplane attacks. >

Tell that "were" to all the soldiers that are still fighting in Afghanistan!!! I'm sure that football player is glad we stopped. (the one that gave up pro football to serve his country and was killed in Afghanistan)

> Then, we STOPPED fighting the terrorists actually responsible for

all of

> the recent attacks on America, before we caught the people who

planned

> and ordered the attack. Instead, we left that country, and started

a war

> in a country that had never conducted terrorist attacks against the

US

> (Iraq).

Iraq was a country that had several terrorist training camps, a dictator that did not like the USA,(something about the US being on both sides of the Iran-Iraq war)a dictator that had used wmd killing thousands of his own people. (but some would belive he wouldn't do anything to the USA)

> > Now we have most of the population of a country that had never

conducted

> terrorism against us, thinking that it might not be such a bad idea > after all.

We have extreamist Muslams trying everything they can to defeet us in Iraq. And if they were not concontrating on our soldiers and the NEW Iraqi police, they would be doing it here in the USA, NYC, CA,DC,FL, would be their top choices, along with other large cities.

> > As for all the ex- and current military hating Kerry, I don't blame

you

> one bit. It's a greater sin to not be ashamed of your actual

military

> service, than to be wholeheartedly proud of dodging it.

I joined (of my own free will) the US ARMY and served 6 years, I would have stayed for 20 but they said I was physicaly unfit for duty, so they gave me disability. As a disabled veteran I cannot figure out why Kerry was not charged with treason in the 70's.

> > I can understand that for the people who have chosen to serve their > country in the most direct manner, literally risking life and limb > defending the honor of the United States, you must believe that

your

> president feels the same way you do. That he would never put your

life,

> your child's life, or anyone elses' in harm's way, never expose you

or

> yours to the horrors of war, without great deliberation and the

most

> serious necessity. > > Unfortunately, your believing this won't make it so. I imagine it

would

> be psychologically unbearable for a person, especially one caring

for a

> crippled family member, to have to see the shattered body of a

loved one

> every single day and think about how their life was squandered by a > mediocre ivy league student and his cronies in the pursuit of an

insane

> dream. No, people have willingly made themselves believe far less > plausible things in order to get through the day, and I don't blame

them. All as in everyone in the US armed forces is serving of their own free will. I'm sure there are soldiers that joined just for the job (as our ex-recuiter used to say) or for training expecting to serve their time here in the states, never facing any danger. But they are fighting to keep us safe here in the USA. I would much rather have our army fighting there than here.

> > I would say you should be EXTREMELY skeptical of ANYONE who talks

war,

> who hasn't been shot at a few times. It's why I trusted George Bush

SR.

> It's why I don't trust his kid.

I trust "his Kid" because he is a born again Christian. He belives in fighting to protect this country, that a marriage is between a man and a woman, and partial birth abortion is wrong. I can't imagin a doctor sticking a needle into the head of a baby that is coming out of the womb and sucking its brains out with the needle.

> > Kerry's kind of a douche, I know. But what's the alternative?

Kerry is not the alternative. I wish the democrats would have someone to run as president that wasn't anti american, anti war, and had some morals to stand on. And not a lawyer. A lawyers job is to lie,cheat,or do anything to win. ( I know there must be some honest lawyers out there, but I haven't met one yet) America does not need a lawyer as president or as vice president. The pres. and vice pres. should have lawyers on retainer but not be one.

> > Devon > Brooklyn

Joe SE Ky A18 with 7600 miles and hoping to hit 10000 before Jan 1st.

[Mike Torst]

lasvegasrider@... wrote:

>OK, back to KLR stuff - Tall guys need high ride handlebars - still no >info ( tears...) >

I use Renthal ATV bars meant for a Raptor. Look up this bend, which has at least 1" or 1.5" more height than stock, and try to find something with a little LESS pullback than the Raptor bend. I like high bars for stand-up riding, but at 5'8" I like the pullback on the raptor bend. Taller people would like the height but want the grips further forward. Devon ------reply ---------------------------- Thanks for the quick reply. We are getting closer to the correct handlebar for us 6'2" plus KLR riders..! Mike Torst A16 aka lasvegasrider

[bigfatgreenbike]

asbestosworkers@... wrote:

> The world trade center was bombed twice that I remember. May have >been more. Once with a car bomb then a plane? The terrorist bombings >I am talking about will not be targeted at one building, I'm talking >about wide spread bombings. >

Something more like Tel Aviv? Yes, you are not the first one to think that (and not crazy for thinking it). It's a distinct possibility.

> Tell that "were" to all the soldiers that are still fighting >in Afghanistan!!! I'm sure that football player is glad we stopped. >(the one that gave up pro football to serve his country and was >killed in Afghanistan) >

Compare the American commitment to the war in Afghanistan NOW, to before we invaded Iraq. The US has soldiers and "advisors" all over the globe, you can hardly use that to say we're not focusing on Iraq at the expense of other areas.

> > Iraq was a country that had several terrorist training camps, a >dictator that did not like the USA,(something about the US being on >both sides of the Iran-Iraq war)a dictator that had used wmd killing >thousands of his own people. (but some would belive he wouldn't do >anything to the USA) > >

So do Iran, Sudan, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, North Korea, etc. So we stopped pursuing the people who ACTUALLY commited the single worst act of terrorism on American soil (without catching them), to attack someone who MIGHT in the future attack the US with WMD's he doesn't presently have?

> We have extreamist Muslams trying everything they can to defeet us >in Iraq. And if they were not concontrating on our soldiers and the >NEW Iraqi police, they would be doing it here in the USA, NYC, >CA,DC,FL, would be their top choices, along with other large cities. >

We'll have extremist muslims fighting us every single time we invade a muslim country. It's unreasonable to expect otherwise. First we invaded because of WMDs. Can't find them, can't find evidence they were being made after gulf war 1. OK so now we invaded because of ties between Al Qaeda and the Iraqi Intelligence service. Noone can find the connection, so now we're in Iraq because of "muslim extremists". Yes, there barbarians opposing us in Iraq, in addition to lots of Iraqis who simply don't want the US military there. Lots of feuding ethnic and religious groups. Hussein kept all these people at each others throats. Bush Sr. knew that toppling Hussein would uncork decades of pent-up domestic unrest and violence, and that Iraq's neighbors would seek to destabilize any occupation by covert means. "There was no viable exit strategy we could see" were the words he used. Yet, Bush Jr still invaded without enough troops to secure Iraq's borders, without enough troops to secure the oil pipelines and fields (which HAD to be operational to pay for the reconstruction effort according the war plan), and without giving the troops the tools they needed to deal with a protracted occupation. Does he even talk to his father?

> I joined (of my own free will) the US ARMY and served 6 years, I >would have stayed for 20 but they said I was physicaly unfit for >duty, so they gave me disability. As a disabled veteran I cannot >figure out why Kerry was not charged with treason in the 70's. >

Because service in the armed forces does not strip you of your right to free speech. I wasn't in Vietnam (I was five when it ended) and certainly have no idea if "atrocities" were as widespread in Vietnam as an idealistic, youthful blabbermouth John Kerry seemed to think. If not (Kerry did see less of that country and of that conflict than many, many others) then the actions of a few individuals stained many honorable people. You are free to call him a traitor if you want (as is your right), but charging someone with treason because he speaks his mind (even if he has a head full of sh*t) is un-American.

> All as in everyone in the US armed forces is serving of their own >free will. I'm sure there are soldiers that joined just for the job >(as our ex-recuiter used to say) or for training expecting to serve >their time here in the states, never facing any danger. But they are >fighting to keep us safe here in the USA. > I would much rather have our army fighting there than here. >

Agreed. Isolationism never really works. Much better to be fighting overseas. But, don't you think the military, our citizens who volunteer for service, have the rightful expectation that the decisions to engage in conflicts, or to start ones, will be wisely considered? That their lives will be put at risk for something that's actually true? That they will be provided with the tools, training, and competent command structure to do their job? (I can hear my great-uncles who served in WW2 laughing from their graves right now, cracking jokes about "military intelligence" and quickly moving on to their hooker stories).

> > >>I would say you should be EXTREMELY skeptical of ANYONE who talks >> >> >war, > > >>who hasn't been shot at a few times. It's why I trusted George Bush >> >> >SR. > > >>It's why I don't trust his kid. >> >> > > I trust "his Kid" because he is a born again Christian. >

In other words, anyone who is NOT a born again Christian will burn in hell forever. He really, truly, fundamentally believes this? People are entitled to believe whatever they want, they're entitled to tell me about it and even try to hand me leaflets on the corner. But this man was elected as the representative of 280 million people (looks like this time he actually will be elected), and he truly believes that something like 220 million (or whatever the non-born-again percentage is) are going to be cast unto the lake of fire for all eternity. That is insane.

>He belives >in fighting to protect this country, >

So does Kerry. He does believe you should think about it first. Bush likes to trot out Kerry's senate voting record on military action, but I'd like to see the riders and addendums that were placed on those bills. That's an old-school political trick when you control the committee that puts the bill into the full legislature. Put some sort of other stuff on the same bill, like an addendum requiring abstinence-only STD counseling using federal funds, stuck onto a bill for funding poor kids' school lunches. Then, when the opposition votes against it, you can say he's "against feeding poor schoolchildren". Basically it means every single time one politician rips into another's voting record, you'll need to read a telephone-book size pile of legal jibberish just to see if the accuser is full of sh*t, or the accused, or both.

>that a marriage is between a man >and a woman, >

So does Kerry ("Marriage is between a man and a woman" were his actual words). He does think that people in a long-term gay relationship still deserve some basic civil rights- Like being able to make medical decisions for your "partner" of 30 years if he's sick and dying and can't communicate. Lots of things that people like you and me take for granted.

>and partial birth abortion is wrong. >

Well, it is. Unless it's being used to remove a dead fetus, or a fetus that is so grotesquely defective that it cannot survive outside the womb, you're killing a person. At that stage (usually 7-8months) the fetus can survive being born prematurely. The thing is, the bill that Bush promoted had NO provision for medical emergency or necessity AFAIK. Which means that a woman's life is put at risk because of some man's religious/moral convictions (yours and mine). If I'm wrong about that aspect of the bill, please let me know (and quote sources please).

> > > >Joe SE Ky A18 with 7600 miles and hoping to hit 10000 before Jan 1st. >

Well, there's something we easily agree upon. Consider studded tires if you have a cold winter where you live. Devon

> >

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, rm@r... wrote:

> > On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, klr6501995 wrote: > > >I do remember Pres. Bush proposing a change to hydrogen for fuel in one > >of his first speaches as Pres. > > Did he say where we are going to get the hydrogen from? >

Cold fusion.

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Jones" wrote:

> > I trust "his Kid" because he is a born again Christian. He belives > in fighting to protect this country, that a marriage is between a man > and a woman, and partial birth abortion is wrong. I can't imagin a > doctor sticking a needle into the head of a baby that is coming out > of the womb and sucking its brains out with the needle. > >

All reasons Bush is morally unfit to hold public office. I see nothing to distinguish fundamentalist christians from fundamental moslems as a threat to a free society.

[Mike Torst]

A new employee is hired at the Tickle Me Elmo factory. The personnel manager explains her duties and tells her to report to work promptly at 8:00 a.m. The next day at 8:45 a.m. there's a knock at the personnel manager's door. The assembly line foreman comes in and starts ranting about this new employee. He says she's incredibly slow and the whole line is backing up. The foreman takes the personnel manager down to the factory floor to show him the problem. Sure enough, Elmo's are backed up all over the place. At the end of the line is the new employee. She has a roll of the material used for the Elmo's and a big bag of marbles. They both watch as she cuts a little piece of fabric, wraps it around two marbles, and starts sewing the little package between Elmo's legs. The personnel manager starts laughing hysterically. After several minutes, he pulls himself together, walks over to the woman, and says, "I'm sorry, I guess you misunderstood me yesterday. Your job is to give Elmo two test tickles." Mike Torst A16 aka lasvegasrider -----Original Message----- From: matteeanne@... [mailto:matteeanne@...] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:56 PM To: Joseph Jones; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR election I love it when people say "Well, the people who took out the trade center towers are not in Iraq", true, but the people who lop off heads on live video are there, and they will do just fine for now, lets hunt them down in the mean time. Radical Muslim Extremists are everywhere, there just happens to be a goldmine of them in Iraq right now. Not to mention, once western culture, and freedom take root, there is no going back. (see USSR/Germany/Indonesia, etc, etc,) Should we force our ideals on others? Probably not, but if it will prevent a reccurance of 9/11 or worse, I vote yes. I dont want to kill these guys. But last time I checked, their only agenda was "kill all the Infadels" That means you, your kids, wife, Mom, Dad, etc. The time to wait for them to strike has now passed. It is now time to go huntin'. I dont care who the President is, as long as they are spending my tax dollars to kill these bastards. Partial list of Infadels: Britney Spears John Kerry Pope The Queen You my 9 year old daughter My Grandmother Your Grandmother Dweezil Zappa Me That cute little kid down the street --- Joseph Jones wrote:

> > > The Iraqi war is about fighting terrorist across > the waters. If we > had not invaded Iraq we would be fighting the > terrorist here in the > USA. > If Kerry gets elected (slight chance) we will be > fighting the war > here anyway. If Kerry gets elected I will be > figuring out how to > mount a machine-gun on my A18. Although I will not > need it here in > the sticks (we have to wait untill tuesday to get > the sunday paper), > but the people in Ca. Ny. Fl. and large cities will > be involved > directly in the war. > Joe SE Ky A18 7600 > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric L. Green" > wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, ron criswell wrote: > > > Er ... fighting for oil is not against this > countries interests. > > > > There is no oil in Fallujah, Samara, and Baghdad. > The oil is all in > the > > north and south of Iraq, not in the middle. Our > soldiers aren't > dying in > > Fallujah and Baghdad for oil. I'm not sure why > they're there, but > it's not > > for oil. If it was for oil, I would have voted for > Bush II, the way > I > > voted for Bush I in 1992. Iraq War I was > definitely about the oil, > > Kuwait's oil -- and I had no problem with that at > all. Iraq War > II... > > anybody have a clue what that one's all about? > > > > -E > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >

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[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

Actually I believe hydrogen can be extracted from the atmosphere, combined with fossil fuels (in much smaller quantity. There is so far 1 hydrogen gas station on earth (as far as I have heard) and it is in Russia I believe. I watched the learning channel (lol) There is also a new technology that encapsulates the hydrogen in microscopic glass spheres, and it is then extracted using light. So the car of the future will have two tanks. One with live spheres, and one with use spheres. You will simply dump ther used ones and fill up with full ones. The reason they are in the glass spheres is simply a safety concern. If you crash and rupture a tank of hydrogen, you lose a few square miles, with the spheres, the explosion would be minimal. --- "Judson D. Jones" wrote:

> > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, rm@r... wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, klr6501995 wrote: > > > > >I do remember Pres. Bush proposing a change to > hydrogen for fuel in one > > >of his first speaches as Pres. > > > > Did he say where we are going to get the hydrogen > from? > > > > > Cold fusion. > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >

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