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[mikesupon]

I'm a recent purchaser of a 2001 KLR650. The prior owner put about 1000 miles on, and the first about 2500. The bike now has 4500 miles, and it seems like to my untrained ear there is an excessive amount of "clunking" coming from the engine, particularly at very low engine RPM's...almost like right off idle. It's particularly noticeable when chugging around, or as I said if I just blip the throttle ever so slightly just off idle. This is my first KLR, and I certainly did a great deal of reading of them before I made the purchase. The bike is exactly what I wanted, but I want to somehow make sure the engine isn't in self destruct mode or something. I understand all about the balancer chain tensioner system, what can go wrong, and how to fix it with the several replacements out there. My concern is not really knowing if this is the source of the noise. I performed the chain adjustment a couple times, but the noise remains. I know I can remove the side case and take a peek, but before I do I'm sort of looking for some advice from a seasoned owner who can take my description of the low speed "clunking" and tell me yes, that's a very typical noise for this engine. Just a little above idle to near redline the engine sounds great. Any comments??

[dooden]

Try adjusting your idle speed up some, it might just be the KACR attempting to engage. (K.awi A.uto C.ompression R.elease for starting) Somebody will no doubt respond with the "proper" idle speed. I hear this also when at really low RPM. BTW a 650 single does not like to lug, can only imagine bad things happening to it if you lug the motor alot. Enjoy the ride Dooden A15 Green Ape Where about you live, maybe there is a seasoned KLR rider near you.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mikesupon" wrote: > I'm a recent purchaser of a 2001 KLR650. The prior owner put about > 1000 miles on, and the first about 2500. The bike now has 4500 > miles, and it seems like to my untrained ear there is an excessive > amount of "clunking" coming from the engine, particularly at very > low engine RPM's...almost like right off idle. It's particularly > noticeable when chugging around, or as I said if I just blip the > throttle ever so slightly just off idle. > > This is my first KLR, and I certainly did a great deal of reading of > them before I made the purchase. The bike is exactly what I wanted, > but I want to somehow make sure the engine isn't in self destruct > mode or something. > > I understand all about the balancer chain tensioner system, what can > go wrong, and how to fix it with the several replacements out there. > My concern is not really knowing if this is the source of the noise. > I performed the chain adjustment a couple times, but the noise > remains. > > I know I can remove the side case and take a peek, but before I do > I'm sort of looking for some advice from a seasoned owner who can > take my description of the low speed "clunking" and tell me yes, > that's a very typical noise for this engine. Just a little above > idle to near redline the engine sounds great. > > Any comments??

[Keith Saltzer]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mikesupon" wrote:

> I'm a recent purchaser of a 2001 KLR650. The prior owner put about > 1000 miles on, and the first about 2500. The bike now has 4500 > miles, and it seems like to my untrained ear there is an excessive > amount of "clunking" coming from the engine, particularly at very > low engine RPM's...almost like right off idle. It's particularly > noticeable when chugging around, or as I said if I just blip the > throttle ever so slightly just off idle. > > This is my first KLR, and I certainly did a great deal of reading

of

> them before I made the purchase. The bike is exactly what I wanted, > but I want to somehow make sure the engine isn't in self destruct > mode or something. > > I understand all about the balancer chain tensioner system, what

can

> go wrong, and how to fix it with the several replacements out

there.

> My concern is not really knowing if this is the source of the

noise.

> I performed the chain adjustment a couple times, but the noise > remains. > > I know I can remove the side case and take a peek, but before I do > I'm sort of looking for some advice from a seasoned owner who can > take my description of the low speed "clunking" and tell me yes, > that's a very typical noise for this engine. Just a little above > idle to near redline the engine sounds great. > > Any comments??

I wrote the almost exact same message years ago, and thousands of other riders new to the KLR have thought and asked the same thing. It's totally normal, don't sweat it. The doohicky has nothing to do with it. As for the doohicky, anything from mild to wild can happen if you don't replace it, so do it ASAP and you won't have to worry about it. I gotta take a shower and get outta here, time for ESR. Talk with you all when I get back. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

[Mike Peplinski]

I've got to keep my RPS's above 2500 or it clunks a lot. Accelerating from 1000 to 2500 is out of the question. I attribute this to the thumper nature of the engine. After 2500 there is no problem. I've got 4000 miles on my 2001 and am anxious to hear the comments from the more experienced out there.

>From: "mikesupon" >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Doohickey Trouble or Not?? >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:02:33 -0000 > >I'm a recent purchaser of a 2001 KLR650. The prior owner put about >1000 miles on, and the first about 2500. The bike now has 4500 >miles, and it seems like to my untrained ear there is an excessive >amount of "clunking" coming from the engine, particularly at very >low engine RPM's...almost like right off idle. It's particularly >noticeable when chugging around, or as I said if I just blip the >throttle ever so slightly just off idle. > >This is my first KLR, and I certainly did a great deal of reading of >them before I made the purchase. The bike is exactly what I wanted, >but I want to somehow make sure the engine isn't in self destruct >mode or something. > >I understand all about the balancer chain tensioner system, what can >go wrong, and how to fix it with the several replacements out there. >My concern is not really knowing if this is the source of the noise. >I performed the chain adjustment a couple times, but the noise >remains. > >I know I can remove the side case and take a peek, but before I do >I'm sort of looking for some advice from a seasoned owner who can >take my description of the low speed "clunking" and tell me yes, >that's a very typical noise for this engine. Just a little above >idle to near redline the engine sounds great. > >Any comments?? > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

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[Dr. Josh Gorman]

I don't seem to have any problems accelerating from 1000 rpms. In fact, I can easily wheelie in first gear just by wrapping the throttle from about 1200 rpm. I don't seem to get any excessive noise, and I have yet to do the doohickey upgrade as well. Don't know if this helps, but it is my experience so far. Ride safe. Josh

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Peplinski" To: ; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Doohickey Trouble or Not?? > > I've got to keep my RPS's above 2500 or it clunks a lot. Accelerating from > 1000 to 2500 is out of the question. I attribute this to the thumper nature > of the engine. After 2500 there is no problem. I've got 4000 miles on my > 2001 and am anxious to hear the comments from the more experienced out > there. > > > >From: "mikesupon" > >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Doohickey Trouble or Not?? > >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:02:33 -0000 > > > >I'm a recent purchaser of a 2001 KLR650. The prior owner put about > >1000 miles on, and the first about 2500. The bike now has 4500 > >miles, and it seems like to my untrained ear there is an excessive > >amount of "clunking" coming from the engine, particularly at very > >low engine RPM's...almost like right off idle. It's particularly > >noticeable when chugging around, or as I said if I just blip the > >throttle ever so slightly just off idle. > > > >This is my first KLR, and I certainly did a great deal of reading of > >them before I made the purchase. The bike is exactly what I wanted, > >but I want to somehow make sure the engine isn't in self destruct > >mode or something. > > > >I understand all about the balancer chain tensioner system, what can > >go wrong, and how to fix it with the several replacements out there. > >My concern is not really knowing if this is the source of the noise. > >I performed the chain adjustment a couple times, but the noise > >remains. > > > >I know I can remove the side case and take a peek, but before I do > >I'm sort of looking for some advice from a seasoned owner who can > >take my description of the low speed "clunking" and tell me yes, > >that's a very typical noise for this engine. Just a little above > >idle to near redline the engine sounds great. > > > >Any comments?? > > > > > > > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Howard Morris]

"Dr. Josh Gorman" wrote:I don't seem to have any problems accelerating from 1000 rpms. In fact, I can easily wheelie in first gear just by wrapping the throttle from about 1200 rpm. I don't seem to get any excessive noise, and I have yet to do the doohickey upgrade as well. Don't know if this helps, but it is my experience so far. Ride safe. Josh

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Peplinski" To: ; Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Doohickey Trouble or Not?? > > I've got to keep my RPS's above 2500 or it clunks a lot. Accelerating from > 1000 to 2500 is out of the question. I attribute this to the thumper nature > of the engine. After 2500 there is no problem. I've got 4000 miles on my > 2001 and am anxious to hear the comments from the more experienced out > there. > > > >From: "mikesupon" > >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Doohickey Trouble or Not?? > >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:02:33 -0000 > > > >I'm a recent purchaser of a 2001 KLR650. The prior owner put about > >1000 miles on, and the first about 2500. The bike now has 4500 > >miles, and it seems like to my untrained ear there is an excessive > >amount of "clunking" coming from the engine, particularly at very > >low engine RPM's...almost like right off idle. It's particularly > >noticeable when chugging around, or as I said if I just blip the > >throttle ever so slightly just off idle. > > > >This is my first KLR, and I certainly did a great deal of reading of > >them before I made the purchase. The bike is exactly what I wanted, > >but I want to somehow make sure the engine isn't in self destruct > >mode or something. > > > >I understand all about the balancer chain tensioner system, what can > >go wrong, and how to fix it with the several replacements out there. > >My concern is not really knowing if this is the source of the noise. > >I performed the chain adjustment a couple times, but the noise > >remains. > > > >I know I can remove the side case and take a peek, but before I do > >I'm sort of looking for some advice from a seasoned owner who can > >take my description of the low speed "clunking" and tell me yes, > >that's a very typical noise for this engine. Just a little above > >idle to near redline the engine sounds great. > > > >Any comments?? > > > >Mine refuses to accelerate below 2500 if tryed it really starts clunking. I just keep the motor spinning above 2500. I have just over 3000 miles. Howard A-18 > > > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links Howard A-18 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[J.R.]

dr. j : i too just bought a 01 klr 650 with 2200 miles on it, for 2800.00, a very good deal if i say so myself after pricing them. and i ,like you did consciderable research on the bike before buying it. i have experienced the exact same sounds coming from my klr at comparable rpm's it was so noticable that i took it back to the dealer had the mechanic check things out and all is normal... apparently this a normal sign and symptom inherent to the klr....nothing to worry about. my mechanic is trustworthy and i'll take his word. dont sweat it! all is good... i'm not worried! now lets hear from other 01 klr riders with longer term experience. p.s. I LOVE THIS BIKE! IT IS EVERYTHING I WAS LOOKING FOR! "Dr. Josh Gorman" wrote: I don't seem to have any problems accelerating from 1000 rpms. In fact, I can easily wheelie in first gear just by wrapping the throttle from about 1200 rpm. I don't seem to get any excessive noise, and I have yet to do the doohickey upgrade as well. Don't know if this helps, but it is my experience so far. Ride safe. Josh

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Peplinski" To: ; Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Doohickey Trouble or Not?? > > I've got to keep my RPS's above 2500 or it clunks a lot. Accelerating from > 1000 to 2500 is out of the question. I attribute this to the thumper nature > of the engine. After 2500 there is no problem. I've got 4000 miles on my > 2001 and am anxious to hear the comments from the more experienced out > there. > > > >From: "mikesupon" > >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Doohickey Trouble or Not?? > >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:02:33 -0000 > > > >I'm a recent purchaser of a 2001 KLR650. The prior owner put about > >1000 miles on, and the first about 2500. The bike now has 4500 > >miles, and it seems like to my untrained ear there is an excessive > >amount of "clunking" coming from the engine, particularly at very > >low engine RPM's...almost like right off idle. It's particularly > >noticeable when chugging around, or as I said if I just blip the > >throttle ever so slightly just off idle. > > > >This is my first KLR, and I certainly did a great deal of reading of > >them before I made the purchase. The bike is exactly what I wanted, > >but I want to somehow make sure the engine isn't in self destruct > >mode or something. > > > >I understand all about the balancer chain tensioner system, what can > >go wrong, and how to fix it with the several replacements out there. > >My concern is not really knowing if this is the source of the noise. > >I performed the chain adjustment a couple times, but the noise > >remains. > > > >I know I can remove the side case and take a peek, but before I do > >I'm sort of looking for some advice from a seasoned owner who can > >take my description of the low speed "clunking" and tell me yes, > >that's a very typical noise for this engine. Just a little above > >idle to near redline the engine sounds great. > > > >Any comments?? > > > > > > > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Zachariah Mully]

On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 16:26, Russell Scott wrote:

> Tailwind?

Supposedly from the rider himself: http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10677&page=5&pp=15 -- Z DC A5X A12X

[eickm]

Sounds like maybe the idle mixture is too lean. There is a nice procedure somewhere on how to adjust it, and it includes drilling out a plug on the bottom of the carb to get to the screw. Not too hard, and worth the effort (on mine at least). Mike

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mikesupon" wrote: > I'm a recent purchaser of a 2001 KLR650. The prior owner put about > 1000 miles on, and the first about 2500. The bike now has 4500 > miles, and it seems like to my untrained ear there is an excessive > amount of "clunking" coming from the engine, particularly at very > low engine RPM's...almost like right off idle. It's particularly > noticeable when chugging around, or as I said if I just blip the > throttle ever so slightly just off idle. > > This is my first KLR, and I certainly did a great deal of reading of > them before I made the purchase. The bike is exactly what I wanted, > but I want to somehow make sure the engine isn't in self destruct > mode or something. > > I understand all about the balancer chain tensioner system, what can > go wrong, and how to fix it with the several replacements out there. > My concern is not really knowing if this is the source of the noise. > I performed the chain adjustment a couple times, but the noise > remains. > > I know I can remove the side case and take a peek, but before I do > I'm sort of looking for some advice from a seasoned owner who can > take my description of the low speed "clunking" and tell me yes, > that's a very typical noise for this engine. Just a little above > idle to near redline the engine sounds great. > > Any comments??

[Jim]

>have experienced the exact same sounds coming from my klr at

comparable >rpm's it was so noticable that i took it back to the dealer had the >mechanic check things out and all is normal... Did your mechanic check your valve clearances? You sure? I too bought a bike with 2,000 miles and had the lugging at 3K rpm and below. The PO claimed to have done the valve service so I did not open it up until 6K miles and found my intakes tight. I replaced 3 shims and I experienced a noticable difference in low rpm torque and reduced lugging. Check your valves. --Jim A-15