2004 vs. 2005

[monahanwb]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mike torst" wrote:

> I am a Productive Earning Taxpipe (PET) for the general use of our > near-socialist government, and I ride my A16 KLR650 hard and with pride.

Mike...... mike ...... exactly what kind of drivel do you call this? When you can ditch pride, you'll be getting somewhere. monahan ... w.b.

[Mike Torst]

You are right - I am sending over 20K in taxes to feed and support - What are YOU sending to your government? Mike Torst Las Vegas -----Original Message----- From: monahanwb [mailto:monahanwb@...] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:36 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: My bike is better than yours - NKLR --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mike torst" wrote:

> I am a Productive Earning Taxpipe (PET) for the general use of our > near-socialist government, and I ride my A16 KLR650 hard and with pride.

Mike...... mike ...... exactly what kind of drivel do you call this? When you can ditch pride, you'll be getting somewhere. monahan ... w.b. List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links

[John S Harper]

Drivel? I'd call "near-socialist" a fact. No difference between the Republicans and the Democrats. They both want to redistribute more and more of our money. When you see all those buildings in DC chock-full of beaurocrats you realize a huge downside of redistribution. The overhead! Bush and Kerry both are on the campaign trail trying to buy votes. From what I can tell the only difference is Bush would run up the defecit while Kerry would jack up the tax rates. "monahanwb" on 08/06/2004 12:36:10 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com cc: Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: My bike is better than yours - NKLR --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mike torst" wrote:

> I am a Productive Earning Taxpipe (PET) for the general use of our > near-socialist government, and I ride my A16 KLR650 hard and with pride.

Mike...... mike ...... exactly what kind of drivel do you call this? When you can ditch pride, you'll be getting somewhere. monahan ... w.b. List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[James L. Miller Jr.]

This close enough? If the top looks like that, the bottom should look like this http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/plumbing/septic/pumping/pbstp25a.jp g or this one http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/plumbing/septic/pumping/pbstp27a.jp g millerized (aaah, another fellow Pennsylvanian. Glad I moved to WV!) --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mike torst" wrote:

> ----Original Message----- > From: WEST HOVLAND [mailto:whovlands@m...] > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 8:27 PM > To: DSN_klr650 > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] My bike is better than yours - NKLR > > > The Advrider forum is full of RUB's and rich Yahoo's that think

everyone

> should buy a $12000 bike and then trash it to prove how cool they

are...

> Dumb Asses. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------

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> --------------- > Mike Torst - reply /////// > > The (RUB) Rich Urban Assholes are not into shitting on those who

are not of

> means, so get real. Most are not eligible for that extreme label,

and the

> others that are close to not being so can be reminded by simply not

being a

> passive non-defensive introverted non-communicating human. I have

not met

> ONE rider, over that past 30+ years, that was not, even deep

down, a

> workable person! > > I ride an old 2002 KLR650, but I could put a KTM950 under my feet,

and

> upgrade my Lexus, etc, within 24 hours. Why do I not? Earnings

dilution

> and transfer to depreciating assets. Like most, I enjoy productive > investments. SO, My paid off KLR and paid off SC400 stay until they

shit the

> guts out of there motors/trannys, etc.. {knock on wood not}. > > I am a Productive Earning Taxpipe (PET) for the general use of our > near-socialist government, and I ride my A16 KLR650 hard and with

pride.

> Advrider.com guys are seriously AOK by me and everyone else I ride

with. For

> what it is worth - Watch the owner of a KTM950 when he downs it. No

money BS

> - he is pissed because, like the rest of us, he is concerned less

about his

> ride than being caught on camera! > > Oh, and would someone send me a picture of the pipe that came out

the 'back

> pocket' of the dentists bare friend? (NOT REALLY --- grin....) > > > Ride well, and focus on the ZEN of the ride. $$$ are, and never

has, been

> the core issue. > > Mike Torst > A16 > Las Vegas

[ron criswell]

You are right about D.C. Every American should visit there and realize all those buildings are gov. biz. The museums are a real plus there however. Criswell John S Harper wrote:

> Drivel? I'd call "near-socialist" a fact. No difference between the > Republicans and the Democrats. They both want to redistribute more and > more of our money. When you see all those buildings in DC chock-full of > beaurocrats you realize a huge downside of redistribution. The overhead! > > Bush and Kerry both are on the campaign trail trying to buy votes. From > what I can tell the only difference is Bush would run up the defecit while > Kerry would jack up the tax rates. > > "monahanwb" on 08/06/2004 12:36:10 AM > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > cc: > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: My bike is better than yours - NKLR > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mike torst" > wrote: > > > I am a Productive Earning Taxpipe (PET) for the general use of our > > near-socialist government, and I ride my A16 KLR650 hard and with pride. > > Mike...... mike ...... exactly what kind of drivel do you call this? > > When you can ditch pride, you'll be getting somewhere. > > monahan ... w.b. > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

[Zachariah Mully]

On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 09:03, John S Harper wrote:

> Drivel? I'd call "near-socialist" a fact. No difference between the > Republicans and the Democrats. They both want to redistribute more and > more of our money. When you see all those buildings in DC chock-full of > beaurocrats you realize a huge downside of redistribution. The overhead! > > Bush and Kerry both are on the campaign trail trying to buy votes. From > what I can tell the only difference is Bush would run up the defecit while > Kerry would jack up the tax rates.

What the? Is this the pot calling the kettle black? Don't you work for IBM, which to my knowledge, is one of the worst corporate bureaucracies in the world? And you're bitching about governmental overhead? Sheesh. The nerve. Z

[John S Harper]

There's a huge difference between a corporate bereaucracy and a government one. A corporate one has to make a profit You know what happens when we don't make money? We have layoffs. The government can simply raise taxes. When's the last time you heard about a government agency doing layoffs? Zachariah Mully on 08/06/2004 12:44:28 PM To: John S Harper/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS cc: KLR List DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: My bike is better than yours - NKLR

On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 09:03, John S Harper wrote: > Drivel? I'd call "near-socialist" a fact. No difference between the > Republicans and the Democrats. They both want to redistribute more and > more of our money. When you see all those buildings in DC chock-full of > beaurocrats you realize a huge downside of redistribution. The overhead! > > Bush and Kerry both are on the campaign trail trying to buy votes. From > what I can tell the only difference is Bush would run up the defecit while > Kerry would jack up the tax rates. What the? Is this the pot calling the kettle black? Don't you work for IBM, which to my knowledge, is one of the worst corporate bureaucracies in the world? And you're bitching about governmental overhead? Sheesh. The nerve. Z www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Chris Krok]

> From: "Andrew Demma" > Subject: 2004 vs. 2005 KLR 650 > > Hi Folks, > > After years of waiting (lived in a condo complex that banned bikes), > I'm about to buy a KLR 650. With some dealers still having 2004's > left on their lots, I was wondering what the difference between the > two years was. Any changes for 2005? I did some Google searches > and looked at the FAQ to no avail. Thanks,

The FAQ's statement about not changing anything but the paint covers it. We don't find out about the minor changes until after the fact, and any major changes would probably be advertised. Krokko -- Dr. J. Christopher Krok John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125

[Zachariah Mully]

On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 13:28, John S Harper wrote:

> There's a huge difference between a corporate bereaucracy and a government > one. > > A corporate one has to make a profit You know what happens when we > don't make money? We have layoffs. > > The government can simply raise taxes. When's the last time you heard > about a government agency doing layoffs?

Ah no, you go running to government for subsidies and tax breaks. And ineptitude is ineptitude regardless of who or how it's done. Don't you think that $75billion+/year (1997) to the F500 in governmental subsidies is overhead? And what would happen if that was cut? You'd lose your job, then be ranting from the other side of the fence. Z DC

[John S Harper]

I give. I guess your basic point is that because I work for a giant corporation I can't criticize big government. If anything, maybe I can see the inherent problems. And yes, I think the huge gov. tax breaks to F500 companies are wrong. Sort of. Let's just say given the current tax code, I think the tax breaks are wrong. I don't think I'd ever be likely to rant from the socialist side of the fence. But hey, never say never. This is my last comment on the topic so feel free to get in the last word. Zachariah Mully on 08/06/2004 01:47:40 PM To: John S Harper/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS cc: KLR List DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: My bike is better than yours - NKLR

On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 13:28, John S Harper wrote: > There's a huge difference between a corporate bereaucracy and a government > one. > > A corporate one has to make a profit You know what happens when we > don't make money? We have layoffs. > > The government can simply raise taxes. When's the last time you heard > about a government agency doing layoffs? Ah no, you go running to government for subsidies and tax breaks. And ineptitude is ineptitude regardless of who or how it's done. Don't you think that $75billion+/year (1997) to the F500 in governmental subsidies is overhead? And what would happen if that was cut? You'd lose your job, then be ranting from the other side of the fence. Z DC www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]