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Devon
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klr stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out?

Post by Devon » Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:46 pm

This was suggested to me by Jake of sagebrushmachine.com. He mentioned that it significantly reduced the twisting of the front end under braking on his '88 KLR. If you simply fit broad, flat washers under the axle bolt head and under the nut, then retighten the axle with the spec torque, it will make the axle/slider assembly somewhat more rigid. It should mimic the improvement of a fork brace to some extent, without any chance of inducing binding like an ill-fitting brace would. Not to mention costing under a dollar. The washers need to be thin enough that you can still get the cotter pin into the axle properly. Anyone want to try this out and report back? I'm curious how many KLRs will benefit (or if Jake's '88 was extra sloppy like my '01). Devon

k.saltzer@comcast.net
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klr stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out?

Post by k.saltzer@comcast.net » Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:07 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon wrote:
> This was suggested to me by Jake of sagebrushmachine.com. He
mentioned
> that it significantly reduced the twisting of the front end under > braking on his '88 KLR. > > If you simply fit broad, flat washers under the axle bolt head and
under
> the nut, then retighten the axle with the spec torque, it will make
the
> axle/slider assembly somewhat more rigid. It should mimic the > improvement of a fork brace to some extent, without any chance of > inducing binding like an ill-fitting brace would. Not to mention
costing
> under a dollar. > > The washers need to be thin enough that you can still get the
cotter pin
> into the axle properly. Anyone want to try this out and report
back? I'm
> curious how many KLRs will benefit (or if Jake's '88 was extra
sloppy
> like my '01). > > Devon
Or the washers could be extra thick, and use the fuji lock axle nuts from Dual-Star. Then you don't need any cotter pins. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

zrod@hotmail.com
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klr stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out?

Post by zrod@hotmail.com » Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:15 pm

I thought the improvement most recognized, was putting bearings above the springs to reduce the twist affect of the springs during compression? Dam, just gettin ready to do it, let me know!!!! Rod, not too much front brake without counter steer!! Cheers!
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, k.saltzer@c... wrote: > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon wrote: > > This was suggested to me by Jake of sagebrushmachine.com. He > mentioned > > that it significantly reduced the twisting of the front end under > > braking on his '88 KLR. > > > > If you simply fit broad, flat washers under the axle bolt head and > under > > the nut, then retighten the axle with the spec torque, it will make > the > > axle/slider assembly somewhat more rigid. It should mimic the > > improvement of a fork brace to some extent, without any chance of > > inducing binding like an ill-fitting brace would. Not to mention > costing > > under a dollar. > > > > The washers need to be thin enough that you can still get the > cotter pin > > into the axle properly. Anyone want to try this out and report > back? I'm > > curious how many KLRs will benefit (or if Jake's '88 was extra > sloppy > > like my '01). > > > > Devon > > > Or the washers could be extra thick, and use the fuji lock axle nuts > from Dual-Star. Then you don't need any cotter pins. > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

Mike T
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klr stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out?

Post by Mike T » Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:57 pm

What bearings? Flat race rollers (Torrington) or ?? .. Info please. Mike T A16 Las Vegas -----Original Message----- From: zrod@... [mailto:zrod@...] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:16 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: KLR stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out? I thought the improvement most recognized, was putting bearings above the springs to reduce the twist affect of the springs during compression? Dam, just gettin ready to do it, let me know!!!! Rod, not too much front brake without counter steer!! Cheers!
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, k.saltzer@c... wrote: > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon wrote: > > This was suggested to me by Jake of sagebrushmachine.com. He > mentioned > > that it significantly reduced the twisting of the front end under > > braking on his '88 KLR. > > > > If you simply fit broad, flat washers under the axle bolt head and > under > > the nut, then retighten the axle with the spec torque, it will make > the > > axle/slider assembly somewhat more rigid. It should mimic the > > improvement of a fork brace to some extent, without any chance of > > inducing binding like an ill-fitting brace would. Not to mention > costing > > under a dollar. > > > > The washers need to be thin enough that you can still get the > cotter pin > > into the axle properly. Anyone want to try this out and report > back? I'm > > curious how many KLRs will benefit (or if Jake's '88 was extra > sloppy > > like my '01). > > > > Devon > > > Or the washers could be extra thick, and use the fuji lock axle nuts > from Dual-Star. Then you don't need any cotter pins. > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special) List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_klr650/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

bigfatgreenbike
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klr stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out?

Post by bigfatgreenbike » Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:18 pm

z89101@... wrote:
>What bearings? Flat race rollers (Torrington) or ?? .. > >Info please. > > >Mike T >A16 >Las Vegas > >-----Original Message----- >From: zrod@... [mailto:zrod@...] >Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:16 PM >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: KLR stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out? > >I thought the improvement most recognized, was putting bearings above >the springs to reduce the twist affect of the springs during >compression? >Dam, just gettin ready to do it, let me know!!!! >Rod, not too much front brake without counter steer!! >Cheers! > > >
In a suprise move, Rod hooks a big one. Do we finally have someone who can give Mr. Mumford some honest competition? Stay tuned..... -- Devon Brooklyn, NY A15-Z '01 KLR650 '81 SR500 cafe racer "The truth's not too popular these days....." Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man

zrod@hotmail.com
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klr stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out?

Post by zrod@hotmail.com » Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:10 am

Devon said: In a suprise move, Rod hooks a big one. Do we finally have someone who can give Mr. Mumford some honest competition? Stay tuned..... Sheesh, Devon, if you're right, the biggest hook is in my own lip! Damit! Rod, with the sheepish grin --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, bigfatgreenbike wrote:
> > > z89101@c... wrote: > > >What bearings? Flat race rollers (Torrington) or ?? .. > > > >Info please. > > > > > >Mike T > >A16 > >Las Vegas > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: zrod@h... [mailto:zrod@h...] > >Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:16 PM > >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: KLR stock fork "twist" solution.... try
it out?
> > > >I thought the improvement most recognized, was putting bearings
above
> >the springs to reduce the twist affect of the springs during > >compression? > >Dam, just gettin ready to do it, let me know!!!! > >Rod, not too much front brake without counter steer!! > >Cheers! > > > > > > > > In a suprise move, Rod hooks a big one. Do we finally have someone
who
> can give Mr. Mumford some honest competition? Stay tuned..... > > -- > Devon > Brooklyn, NY > > A15-Z '01 KLR650 > '81 SR500 cafe racer > > "The truth's not too popular these days....." > > Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man

bradklr650@localaccess.com
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klr stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out?

Post by bradklr650@localaccess.com » Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:29 am

Devon believes this is a troll, Rod and some dozen others have bought some bearings off of another site to install under the forks caps to correct "spring twist/binding"?. Truth can be stranger than fiction, no? Brad A15 Centralia, WA
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, zrod@h... wrote: > Devon said: > In a suprise move, Rod hooks a big one. Do we finally have someone who > can give Mr. Mumford some honest competition? Stay tuned..... > > Sheesh, Devon, if you're right, the biggest hook is in my own lip! > Damit! > Rod, with the sheepish grin > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, bigfatgreenbike > wrote: > > > > > > z89101@c... wrote: > > > > >What bearings? Flat race rollers (Torrington) or ?? .. > > > > > >Info please. > > > > > > > > >Mike T > > >A16 > > >Las Vegas > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: zrod@h... [mailto:zrod@h...] > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:16 PM > > >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: KLR stock fork "twist" solution.... try > it out? > > > > > >I thought the improvement most recognized, was putting bearings > above > > >the springs to reduce the twist affect of the springs during > > >compression? > > >Dam, just gettin ready to do it, let me know!!!! > > >Rod, not too much front brake without counter steer!! > > >Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a suprise move, Rod hooks a big one. Do we finally have someone > who > > can give Mr. Mumford some honest competition? Stay tuned..... > > > > -- > > Devon > > Brooklyn, NY > > > > A15-Z '01 KLR650 > > '81 SR500 cafe racer > > > > "The truth's not too popular these days....." > > > > Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man

Chris
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klr stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out?

Post by Chris » Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:02 am

I just finished talking to Joe at Phoenix Metalworks and the run of left-handed smoke chasers is in for anodizing now. They should ship in a few days.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 01:29:47PM -0000, bradklr650@... wrote: > Devon believes this is a troll, Rod and some dozen others have bought > some bearings off of another site to install under the forks caps to > correct "spring twist/binding"?. Truth can be stranger than fiction, > no? > > Brad A15 > Centralia, WA > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, zrod@h... wrote: > > Devon said: > > In a suprise move, Rod hooks a big one. Do we finally have someone > who > > can give Mr. Mumford some honest competition? Stay tuned..... > > > > Sheesh, Devon, if you're right, the biggest hook is in my own lip! > > Damit! > > Rod, with the sheepish grin > > -- ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/

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Post by judjonzz@msn.com » Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:36 am

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, bradklr650@l... wrote:
> Devon believes this is a troll, Rod and some dozen others have
bought
> some bearings off of another site to install under the forks caps
to
> correct "spring twist/binding"?.
Yes, knowing full well at the time that it might be snake oil. Siemen says that a carefully massaged set of race forks might include fork spring bearings, but that any effect would be too subtle to be noticed by the hamfisted KLR rider. Sounds about right, kind of like homeopathy ("natrum muriaticum", indeed.) Hey, they're in there, and you don't hear me complaining about my forks, do you?

Devon
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klr stock fork "twist" solution.... try it out?

Post by Devon » Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:06 am

judjonzz@... wrote:
>--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, bradklr650@l... wrote: > > >>Devon believes this is a troll, Rod and some dozen others have >> >> >bought > > >>some bearings off of another site to install under the forks caps >> >> >to > > >>correct "spring twist/binding"?. >> >> > >Yes, knowing full well at the time that it might be snake oil. >Siemen says that a carefully massaged set of race forks might include >fork spring bearings, but that any effect would be too subtle to be >noticed by the hamfisted KLR rider. Sounds about right, kind of like >homeopathy ("natrum muriaticum", indeed.) Hey, they're in there, and >you don't hear me complaining about my forks, do you? >
Like the banana in my ear that keeps the alligators away. How do I know it's working? Do you see any 'gators around here? Devon

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