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[MSchue5938@aol.com]

well the mystery "ginger" invention has finally been revealed (a battery powered scotter of two opposed wheels- with top speed of 12 mph). i predict it will go nowhere because first of all its no improvement over a bicycle- 2nd, its no improvement over a very efficient battery or gas/motorized scooter that could be built. 3rd- there's no infrastructure for it to travel on! heck we have no bicycle paths in this country and other forms of scooters are actually outlawed on sidewalks! mark "racks & bicycle carriers for motorcycles" http://www.hometown.aol.com/mschue5938/mschuette.html">bicycle carriers for motorcycles [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Brad J. Morris]

Below is a pretty good representation of how most techno geeks view the world. Quoted from a software engineer after his recent visit to New York. Admittedly, it sounds great. But what do you think the reality is behind this image? About the guy playing the sax under the bridge? Or the people with the sail boat? "...people were sailing little radio control sailboats around the pond, musicians were playing flutes and saxe's under the shade of the many trees, some guy was playing the sax under an old stone overpass, the echo creating a cool effect... the scene quite literally could have been from Gene Roddenberry's incredibly optimistic future as portrayed in Star Trek: The Earth so small that everyone was on the same side, in an idillyc setting together, with technology only allowing us to live our lives however we wanted, not interfering or domintaing at all. It was really a glimpse of a utopia that I have though back on most every day for the last few months. " The idea of riding a perfect little scooter around perfectly maintained streets devoid of nasty cars on a perfect sunny day sounds wonderful. But there are too many realities to overcome for this to be viable in the near future. #1. What would all of the people who actually paid to have those streets built, think of not being able to drive on them? Techno geeks hate reality. (I know, I'm a recovering one) Brad J. Morris A16 Illinois

> well the mystery "ginger" invention has finally been revealed (a battery > powered scotter of two opposed wheels- with top speed of 12 mph). i predict > it will go nowhere because first of all its no improvement over a bicycle- > 2nd, its no improvement over a very efficient battery or gas/motorized > scooter that could be built. 3rd- there's no infrastructure for it to travel > on! heck we have no bicycle paths in this country and other forms of > scooters are actually outlawed on sidewalks! > mark > "racks & bicycle carriers for motorcycles" > http://www.hometown.aol.com/mschue5938/mschuette.html">bicycle carriers for motorcycles > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Russell Scott]

I think Segway would be excellent for mail carriers in areas that make it easy to move around on. Also downtown messenger services, warehouse supervisors, store clerks, etc. could use it. I see "its" biggest threat being to the golf cart industry. I know they already have a deal with the post office. Other than that, unless they can get the price of one down to a $1000.00, I see it as nothing more than a executive's toy. Can you say Sharper Image catalog. Hopefully the technology it uses can have other applications that will have more impact on the real world. No doubt, Kamen's vision for his invention far outstrips reality. Russell -----Original Message----- From: Brad J. Morris [SMTP:mighty_oak1@...] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:47 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: nklr "ginger invention" better than bicycles/motorcycles? Below is a pretty good representation of how most techno geeks view the world. Quoted from a software engineer after his recent visit to New York. Admittedly, it sounds great. But what do you think the reality is behind this image? About the guy playing the sax under the bridge? Or the people with the sail boat? "...people were sailing little radio control sailboats around the pond, musicians were playing flutes and saxe's under the shade of the many trees, some guy was playing the sax under an old stone overpass, the echo creating a cool effect... the scene quite literally could have been from Gene Roddenberry's incredibly optimistic future as portrayed in Star Trek: The Earth so small that everyone was on the same side, in an idillyc setting together, with technology only allowing us to live our lives however we wanted, not interfering or domintaing at all. It was really a glimpse of a utopia that I have though back on most every day for the last few months. " The idea of riding a perfect little scooter around perfectly maintained streets devoid of nasty cars on a perfect sunny day sounds wonderful. But there are too many realities to overcome for this to be viable in the near future. #1. What would all of the people who actually paid to have those streets built, think of not being able to drive on them? Techno geeks hate reality. (I know, I'm a recovering one) Brad J. Morris A16 Illinois

> well the mystery "ginger" invention has finally been revealed (a battery > powered scotter of two opposed wheels- with top speed of 12 mph). i

predict

> it will go nowhere because first of all its no improvement over a

bicycle-

> 2nd, its no improvement over a very efficient battery or gas/motorized > scooter that could be built. 3rd- there's no infrastructure for it to

travel

> on! heck we have no bicycle paths in this country and other forms of > scooters are actually outlawed on sidewalks! > mark > "racks & bicycle carriers for motorcycles" > http://www.hometown.aol.com/mschue5938/mschuette.html">bicycle

carriers for motorcycles

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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[Bill]

The top speed is 12 mph and the battery is supposed to last 17 miles. I'm far from being in perfect physical condition but I can ride a bicycle 17 miles at 12 mph. Even a little further. 12 mph is slow pace on a bike. It's for those of us who need a motorized cart to shop, and, or, those of us who have the money for expensive novelties. Sudo training wheels for the balance impaired. Some might say it's just another invention to make our society a bit fatter. It's certainly not revolutionary by any means.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Russell Scott wrote: > I think Segway would be excellent for mail carriers in areas that make it > easy to move around on. Also downtown messenger services, warehouse > supervisors, store clerks, etc. could use it. I see "its" biggest threat > being to the golf cart industry. I know they already have a deal with the > post office. Other than that, unless they can get the price of one down to > a $1000.00, I see it as nothing more than a executive's toy. Can you say > Sharper Image catalog. > > Hopefully the technology it uses can have other applications that will have > more impact on the real world. No doubt, Kamen's vision for his invention > far outstrips reality. > > Russell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad J. Morris [SMTP:mighty_oak1@y...] > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:47 PM > To: DSN_klr650@y... > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: nklr "ginger invention" better than > bicycles/motorcycles? > > Below is a pretty good representation of how most techno geeks view the > world. Quoted from a software engineer after his recent > visit to New York. Admittedly, it sounds great. But what do you think the > reality is behind this image? About the guy playing the sax > under the bridge? Or the people with the sail boat? > > "...people were sailing little radio control sailboats around > the pond, musicians were playing flutes and saxe's under > the shade of the many trees, some guy was playing the sax under an old > stone overpass, the echo creating a cool effect... the scene > quite literally could have been from Gene Roddenberry's incredibly > optimistic future as portrayed in Star Trek: The Earth so small > that everyone was on the same side, in an idillyc setting together, with > technology only allowing us to live our lives however we > wanted, not interfering or domintaing at all. It was really a glimpse of a > utopia that I have though back on most every day for the > last few months. " > > The idea of riding a perfect little scooter around perfectly maintained > streets devoid of nasty cars on a perfect sunny day sounds > wonderful. But there are too many realities to overcome for this to be > viable in the near future. #1. What would all of the people > who actually paid to have those streets built, think of not being able to > drive on them? Techno geeks hate reality. (I know, I'm a > recovering one) > > > Brad J. Morris > A16 Illinois > > > > well the mystery "ginger" invention has finally been revealed (a battery > > powered scotter of two opposed wheels- with top speed of 12 mph). i > predict > > it will go nowhere because first of all its no improvement over a > bicycle- > > 2nd, its no improvement over a very efficient battery or gas/motorized > > scooter that could be built. 3rd- there's no infrastructure for it to > travel > > on! heck we have no bicycle paths in this country and other forms of > > scooters are actually outlawed on sidewalks! > > mark > > "racks & bicycle carriers for motorcycles" > > http://www.hometown.aol.com/mschue5938/mschuette.html">bicycle > carriers for motorcycles > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Brad J. Morris]

No doubt there are some great possibilities. It will be interesting to see the changes that occur over the next year to the design. Brad J. Morris A16 Illinois

> I think Segway would be excellent for mail carriers in areas that make it > easy to move around on. Also downtown messenger services, warehouse > supervisors, store clerks, etc. could use it. I see "its" biggest threat > being to the golf cart industry. I know they already have a deal with the > post office. Other than that, unless they can get the price of one down to > a $1000.00, I see it as nothing more than a executive's toy. Can you say > Sharper Image catalog. > > Hopefully the technology it uses can have other applications that will have > more impact on the real world. No doubt, Kamen's vision for his invention > far outstrips reality. > > Russell

[Russell Scott]

One business idea for an entrepreneur minded individual. Set up rental stands in pedestrian tourist areas and/or amusement parks of major citys. Russell DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: nklr "ginger invention" better than bicycles/motorcycles? No doubt there are some great possibilities. It will be interesting to see the changes that occur over the next year to the design. Brad J. Morris A16 Illinois

> I think Segway would be excellent for mail carriers in areas that make it > easy to move around on. Also downtown messenger services, warehouse > supervisors, store clerks, etc. could use it. I see "its" biggest threat > being to the golf cart industry. I know they already have a deal with the > post office. Other than that, unless they can get the price of one down to > a $1000.00, I see it as nothing more than a executive's toy. Can you say > Sharper Image catalog. > > Hopefully the technology it uses can have other applications that will have > more impact on the real world. No doubt, Kamen's vision for his invention > far outstrips reality. > > Russell

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[k650dsn@aol.com]

> > well the mystery "ginger" invention has finally been revealed (a

battery

> > powered scotter of two opposed wheels- with top speed of 12 mph).

i predict

> > it will go nowhere because first of all its no improvement over a

bicycle-

> > 2nd, its no improvement over a very efficient battery or

gas/motorized

> > scooter that could be built...

Supply it with a XR650R motor and get back to me. Better yet, supply it with the 650 motor and Ginger from Gilligan's Island (How she looked back then of course) and I'll buy. Gino

[denkmal@albanytel.com]

Another $mart idea. buy a bunch for 3 grand a piece and sell 'em for twice that on ebay... dan

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Russell Scott wrote: > One business idea for an entrepreneur minded individual. > Set up rental stands in pedestrian tourist areas and/or amusement parks of major citys. > > Russell > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad J. Morris [SMTP:mighty_oak1@y...] > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 4:14 PM > To: DSN_klr650@y... > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: nklr "ginger invention" better than bicycles/motorcycles? > > No doubt there are some great possibilities. It will be interesting to > see the changes that occur over the next year to the design. > > Brad J. Morris > A16 Illinois > > > > I think Segway would be excellent for mail carriers in areas that make it > > easy to move around on. Also downtown messenger services, warehouse > > supervisors, store clerks, etc. could use it. I see "its" biggest threat > > being to the golf cart industry. I know they already have a deal with the > > post office. Other than that, unless they can get the price of one down to > > a $1000.00, I see it as nothing more than a executive's toy. Can you say > > Sharper Image catalog. > > > > Hopefully the technology it uses can have other applications that will have > > more impact on the real world. No doubt, Kamen's vision for his invention > > far outstrips reality. > > > > Russell > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Miata Myk]

> I think Segway would be excellent for mail carriers in areas that make it > easy to move around on. Also downtown messenger services, warehouse > supervisors, store clerks, etc. could use it. I see "its" biggest threat > being to the golf cart industry. I know they already have a deal with the > post office. Other than that, unless they can get the price of one down

to

> a $1000.00, I see it as nothing more than a executive's toy. Can you say > Sharper Image catalog.

Agreed and I had rather thought of the various catalouges from Sharpers Image to Brookstone that would carry it.

> Hopefully the technology it uses can have other applications that will

have

> more impact on the real world. No doubt, Kamen's vision for his invention > far outstrips reality.

I wonder what potential such a fine-tuned balancing mechanism might have in terms of improved prosthetics, car and aircraft safety, and perhaps motorcycle applications as well (balance and ABS merged with a unique traction control?). Hmm..

[PRBKLR@cs.com]

I have visions of full contact Segway Ball! Imagine a 300lb linemen coming at you, or going out for a pass! Maybe modified Segway racing... If they really want to make this the lazy mans dream vehicle, it should be designed so that one only needs to flex a butt cheek in a certain way to move in various directions, and breaking wind increases speed! Now imagine the 300lb lineman coming at you!!