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[Conall O'Brien]

>From: MWeaver@... To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] >Re: No Medical Marijuana NKLR Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:15:13 -0000 > >--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Jason Lutz - ISDX wrote: > Kinda like these pot >heads always pushing materials made from > hemp. You know they say, "You >can't get high from it." I don't disagree, > but why are they so caught up >trying to legalize hemp for fabric? Because > that is just a first step in >complete legalization. > > > >well, there you go. that sort of illustrates the pointlessness of this >discussion. your statement is so incredibly ignorant and free of facts as >to render a sentient being speechless. makes me want to smoke dope just to >piss off the fascist redneck morons that say stuff like that. -mark weaver >(not a pot user, but a big supporter of renewable resources, of which hemp >is a particularly fine example) > >

Learn the truth before you decide http://www.cannabiscollege.com http://www.hr95.org/children.html Drug POW Conall-resident Vancouver BC and Amsterdam Holland. Looking for a farm in Switzerland. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

[Bogdan Swider]

> Yo Bogdan, your like, big words and deep meaning stuff are like, > killin my buzz. >

Sorry dude..........Bogdan

[ED]

LOL! Again! DANG IT! I knew there was more to this Moab thing. I mean, who the hell wants to ride around a bunch of rocks in 90+ degree heat with a bunch of sweaty, wheezing guys. But a big ole spleef fest, jeez, that's different. No wonder the DNR's trying to reign it in. Wonder if its too late to change my vacation schedule. Ed

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., S2Mumford@a... wrote: > Canyonlands Smokeout t minus 16 days > > CA Stu > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Bogdan Swider wrote: > > > > > > > makes me want to > > > smoke dope just to piss off the fascist redneck morons that say > stuff > > > like that. > > > -mark weaver > > > > > Won't work Mark. These days fascist redneck morons probably smoke > more dope > > than leftist affluent literati. > > > > Bogdan

[brettonwolfgang@hotmail.com]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., MWeaver@n... wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Jason Lutz - ISDX wrote: > > Kinda like these pot heads always pushing materials made from > > hemp. You know they say, "You can't get high from it." I don't > disagree, > > but why are they so caught up trying to legalize hemp for

fabric?

> Because > > that is just a first step in complete legalization. > > > > > well, there you go. that sort of illustrates the pointlessness of > this discussion. your statement is so incredibly ignorant and free

of

> facts as to render a sentient being speechless. makes me want to > smoke dope just to piss off the fascist redneck morons that say

stuff

> like that. > -mark weaver (not a pot user, but a big supporter of renewable > resources, of which hemp is a particularly fine example)

I think we should increase the amount of plastic farms in America. Just like the great plastic farms our founding fathers used in ol' Virginia, I can just imagine plantation life again, like the old days- thousands of acres of plastic trees growing wild........ PLASTIC, THE ULTIMATE RENEWABLE RESOURCE!!! Plus if we legalize plastic, no one will smoke it. Gosh how I love this list!!! Bretton

[Jason Lutz - ISDX]

Okay, I know I said that that was my last reply. But, I feel I should reply to questions and comments. Conall wrote: "How about alchohol? About 10-15% of the general population is driving under the influence at any given time. I focus on the skills and instincts to avoid truly dangerous situations, and not just passing judgements about groups of people." Did you not read my message? If not I will post again: "I would be for the legal use of marijuana, if you could test someone to see if they are under the influence. (Like a breath test.) But as far as I know, you can only tell if they have THC in their blood, not able to determine "when" that person had toked up." Obviously I am concerned about persons driving under the influence of ANYTHING, and would like to be able to test for it. Mark wrote: "well, there you go. that sort of illustrates the pointlessness of this discussion. your statement is so incredibly ignorant and free of facts as to render a sentient being speechless. makes me want to smoke dope just to piss off the fascist redneck morons that say stuff like that. -mark weaver (not a pot user, but a big supporter of renewable resources, of which hemp is a particularly fine example)" First of all Mark, I hope that you have not stepped as low as to start calling people names. I don't believe anyone on this list would do so, as we are all kind gentlemen here. So I will assume your remark of "redneck morons" are pertaining to others. Secondly, maybe you missed my first paragraph that said that THIS IS MY OPINION. So I guess you did not choose to read that part and try to lambast me instead. Thirdly, I said that I DO NOT disagree that hemp is a resource, I said there are other motives to have it legalized. Mark, I give you the benifit of the doubt and assume that you are able to discern what is fact and what is opinion. I do not remember quoting any type of statistics, I do not remember post any type of medical evidence, or studies. THIS IS SIMPLY MY OPINION. You are welcome to cut and paste my remarks and change the meanings to what I had said. It cracks me up how people blinded by their "wants" seem to read only the parts they would like to debate. I EVEN SAID THAT I FAVORED LEGALIZING POT IN MY FIRST MESSAGE! LOL! Please read the WHOLE message before trying to flame. Like I said in my first message, I don't care if you want to sit around smoking pot, I will stick to my brew.

[geoffluttrell@yahoo.com]

Hey Jason, Not to nit-pick, but you actually said-"I would be for the legal use of marijuana, if you could test someone to see if they are under the influence. (Like a breath test.) But as far as I know, you can only tell if they have THC in their blood, not able to determine "when" that person had toked up." So basically you are for it if there is some way that the government/authorities can tell who is using it, and when. Will we all be tested at regular intervals? Will we have to register as users if we choose to use? As a society, we are moving further and further from punishing actions, and closer and closer to punishing ideas and personal choices. This is a bad thing in my opinion. If someone can function in a responsible manner, it should not matter what they do, as long as it does not interfere with others. As far as the pilot goes, I don't want to fly with an actively stoned pilot, but a capable pilot who responsibly uses is OK with me. I'm sure there are many who are active drinkers. I hate to admit it, but I have pulled off some seriously astounding shit while stoned. Well, I guess that's it for me. I appreciate the civility of the group. Everyone must be all "mellow". Take care, Geoff

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Jason Lutz - ISDX wrote: > Okay, I know I said that that was my last reply. But, I feel I should reply > to questions and comments. > > Conall wrote: > "How about alchohol? About 10-15% of the general population is driving under > the influence at any given time. I focus on the skills and instincts to > avoid truly dangerous situations, and not just passing judgements about > groups of people." > > Did you not read my message? If not I will post again: "I would be for the > legal use of marijuana, if you could test someone to see if they are under > the influence. (Like a breath test.) But as far as I know, you can only > tell if they have THC in their blood, not able to determine "when" that > person had toked up." > > Obviously I am concerned about persons driving under the influence of > ANYTHING, and would like to be able to test for it. > > Mark wrote: > "well, there you go. that sort of illustrates the pointlessness of this > discussion. your statement is so incredibly ignorant and free of facts as to > render a sentient being speechless. makes me want to smoke dope just to piss > off the fascist redneck morons that say stuff like that. > > -mark weaver (not a pot user, but a big supporter of renewable resources, of > which hemp is a particularly fine example)" > > First of all Mark, I hope that you have not stepped as low as to start > calling people names. I don't believe anyone on this list would do so, as > we are all kind gentlemen here. So I will assume your remark of "redneck > morons" are pertaining to others. Secondly, maybe you missed my first > paragraph that said that THIS IS MY OPINION. So I guess you did not choose > to read that part and try to lambast me instead. Thirdly, I said that I DO > NOT disagree that hemp is a resource, I said there are other motives to have > it legalized. Mark, I give you the benifit of the doubt and assume that you > are able to discern what is fact and what is opinion. I do not remember > quoting any type of statistics, I do not remember post any type of medical > evidence, or studies. THIS IS SIMPLY MY OPINION. > > You are welcome to cut and paste my remarks and change the meanings to what > I had said. It cracks me up how people blinded by their "wants" seem to > read only the parts they would like to debate. I EVEN SAID THAT I FAVORED > LEGALIZING POT IN MY FIRST MESSAGE! LOL! > > Please read the WHOLE message before trying to flame. > > Like I said in my first message, I don't care if you want to sit around > smoking pot, I will stick to my brew.

[Don Detloff]

Go to our files section. The 2nd item from the bottom is a picture of Senator Bucky Gordon taken immediately after the Supreme Court decision. Don Detloff Fair Haven, MI A14

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Dan Oaks wrote: > Yeh . . .Right! > > -- > bierdo > > L wrote: > > > REUTERS > > May 17, 2001 > > > > Washington, DC > > > > In a rare move of cooperation between the Executive and Judiciary > > Branches of the United States Government, the medical use of Marijuana > > was legalized nationwide today by nearly unanimous votes by both houses > > of Congress. Then the surprise... the new law was then upheld in an > > almost simultaneous decision by the US Supreme Court. The case arose > > out of the fate of Senator Bucky Jordan, a Republican Congressman from > > Kentucky, who has been fighting terminal cancer for 18 months. Bucky > > sought but could not receive relief from the pain and nausea that his > > doctors told him Marijuana could give. Congress and the Supreme Court > > were swayed by his terrible predicament... thus the unprecedented moves > > today. > > > > Asked if Congress had "bent the rules" for one of their own, the Speaker > > of the House was quoted as saying: > > > > "There was no need to "bend" the rules, the rules were changed by those > > who made them...." > > > > The Senator from Arizona promised a full legislative inquiry... > >