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Jeff Walker
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[dsn_klr650] final word in chain slack

Post by Jeff Walker » Sun Jun 11, 2000 12:21 am

> I went there today and showed him the factory sticker on the chain guard,
he
> tore it off! he said, NEVER ADJUST A CHAIN ON AN OFF ROAD TYPE SUSPENSION
UN
> LOADED
Nonsense. If the correct dimension is given to account for the suspension geometry while it is unloaded, then adjusting it this way is not only perfectly fine, it is also much more practical, and that is why this procedure is given by every manufacturer. The Kawasaki procedure is with the bike on the sidestand, and at the tightest part of the chain, which implies you have to roll the bike in order to find the tightest part. This puts some load on the suspension. (This also assumes no lowering links, stock rear shock set to the stock pre-load.) Did you previously adjust your chain while the bike was up on a crate? That would be with the suspension totally unloaded. Also, you'll note that the chain slack diagram in the manual shows just a line to represent the chain for slack dimension. That is the chain centerline, and I have witnessed both novice wrenches and pro mechanics measuring the slack by the top and bottom of the chain side plates, which is wrong, by at least 10mm. I personally adjust my chain on the sidestand to 60mm at the tightest part, 55 mm if I have any gear mounted. I believe we've had a discussion about the views of your mechanic before. (Running out of gas hurts your engine? Unless this is a different guy.)
> He said that you want 19mm of slack at the point of the suspension's
travel
> where the chain is the tightest. which, on the KLR is when the swingarm
is
> parallel with the ground.
This may be a tad loose, I'll have to check mine, but I'm guessing its more like 12-15 mm there. Swingarm parallel to the ground? That isn' the way to find the tightest part of the suspension travel (What if the forks are fully extended?). The tightest part of the suspension travel can be found with a piece of string or a yard stick. When the centers of the countershaft, rear swingarm pivot bolt, and the rear axle are all in line, this is the tightest point.
> It worked, and that's what I will do for now on. > > -neil >

Ted Palmer
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[dsn_klr650] final word in chain slack

Post by Ted Palmer » Sun Jun 11, 2000 7:23 am

carmic7@... wrote: [probably not the final word in chain slack]
> I went there today and showed him the factory sticker on the chain guard, he > tore it off! he said, NEVER ADJUST A CHAIN ON AN OFF ROAD TYPE SUSPENSION UN > LOADED
Did he give a reason? But setting road bikes unloaded is ok?
> He said that you want 19mm of slack at the point of the suspension's travel > where the chain is the tightest. which, on the KLR is when the swingarm is > parallel with the ground.
Not 18mm, not 20mm?
> It worked, and that's what I will do for now on.
Fine. What is the unloaded slack measurement now? Mister_T

Tom Simpson
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[dsn_klr650] final word in chain slack

Post by Tom Simpson » Sun Jun 11, 2000 7:40 am

The final word on KLR chain adjustments is this Johnnie Cochranisim: "If it looks just right, its too damn tight." :) You always run it looser than you think you should. The by-the-book methods leave you with a chain set far too tight for comfort.. -Tom '96 KLR 650

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[dsn_klr650] final word in chain slack

Post by carmic7@aol.com » Sun Jun 11, 2000 2:17 pm

In a message dated 6/11/00 1:21:27 AM, jlwalk@... writes: << If the correct dimension is given to account for the suspension geometry while it is unloaded, then adjusting it this way is not only perfectly fine, it is also much more practical, and that is why this procedure is given by every manufacturer. The Kawasaki procedure is with the bike on the sidestand, and at the tightest part of the chain, >> this is the contradiction that I have problems with, With the bike on the sidestand, the chain is at its loosest, it is foolish and possibly dangerous to trust taking a measurement at this point, one needs to know if the chain is too tight when the swingarm is in line with the swingarm pivot point and countershaft sprocket. if it is too tight you could damage the countershaft, bearings, sprockets,swingarm and so on. I have lost confidence with what Kawasaki has to say about how to adjust things after going through my own personal nightmare with my balancer chain adjuster. -neil

Kurt Simpson
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Post by Kurt Simpson » Mon Jun 12, 2000 8:08 pm

I think I saw one on the back of Ernie Lombard's KLR in Moab...he's a good friend of Tim Bernard at dlsboi@... . Kur
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