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Jeffrey L. Walker
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[dsn_klr650] chain tech, nklr

Post by Jeffrey L. Walker » Thu May 25, 2000 9:35 am

> > What's the best type of chain lube? I won't touch that one with > a 106 link length of chain. I use PJ-1 o-ring lube and/or gear > oil. > > Professor A9 Federal Way, Wa. [USA] >
Ah Professor, let me enlighten you. Maxxim Chain Wax. Its THE shit to use. I use plain old WD-40 and a couple of rags to clean my o-ring chain, with maybe a little scrubbing from a nylon tooth brush if the gunk is really bad. Then start the bike up, and ride it for about ten minutes to warm the chain up. Come home and spray on the chain wax and let it sit for 10-20 minutes. The stuff dries to the consistency of cosmoline (which is the packaging material that the military uses to preserve weapons for shipping.) It doesn't attract dirt like that PJ-1 stuff does (I used to use that before I switched.) Basically, I just give my chain a quick spray of wax after every tankful of gas and its good to go. I only worry about cleaning it with the WD-40 about every 2000 miles or more, depending on how many sand washes and mud holes I've gone through in the mean time. The only drawback I've seen with the chain wax is that it might not protect the contact patches on the rollers as well as other lubes, but I have only noticed this in very heavy rain and daily riding, combined with not lubing the chain every tankful of gas. What happened was some very light corrosion on the rollers that easily cleaned off, and like I said, I was riding in the rain daily between Ft. Lewis and the University of Washington, and my bike sat in the rain all day long, plus I won't lubing the chain as often as I should have. So if it rains more, I just applied a little more chain wax and there were no problems. Now that I live in Tri-Cities, Eastern Washington, and with all the desert riding I do, it is imperative that the lube doesn't attract dirt and sand, and the chain wax doesn't. I used to not even lube the chain over here on my other bikes, and they'd last longer than if I had used the PHI-1 on them, unless I cleaned the chain weekly that is. I'm here to say, after 8000 miles with the same chain and sprockets and chain wax, my chain and sprockets have hardly worn at all. I've only had to adjust the chain once in those miles, and that was right after I put them on. One more thing, to align the rear wheel I use a tape measure between the swing arm pivot bolt and the axle. Jeff

Skip Faulkner
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[dsn_klr650] chain tech, nklr

Post by Skip Faulkner » Thu May 25, 2000 9:55 am

> Volumes could be written about proper chain care & maintenance. >
..........................>snip > when the rear suspension is fully compressed and when your bike > is on its side stand. > I remove my (o-ring) chain once a year & soak it for 2-3 hours in > heated gear oil & hang it up to drip-dry overnight. Don't do this > in the house or the misses will kill you - heated gear oil smells > worse than squirrel piss. I use WD-40 to "clean" my chain > periodically, especially after riding in the rain. WD-40 is NOT > a good chain lubricant, it's too light weight. . > > Professor A9 Federal Way, Wa. [USA] >
Thanks for the excellent post. The two things I question is where you stated that when the suspension is compressed, the chain is most loose. If you check your slack and then have someone press down on the rear of the bike, or from the right side, reach over the seat and grab the swingarm and pull down, you will see that the chain tightens up considerably. If you call Tsubaki and D.I.D. and talk to one of their engineers, they will advise you regularly to spray the chain with WD-40. This is mainly to clean. They say that with an o-ring chain no chain lube made will penetrate past the o-rings and is unneccessary. WD-40 (because it`s so light) has the best chance of penetrating and will help. I use to lube my o-ring chains regularly with chain lube and gear oil, but since I quit, and just spray down with WD-40 at least a couple of times within every 1000 miles, my chain life has been just as long, if not longer. I especially agree with you on periodically removing the chain and soaking. I soak in kerosene for a couple of hours and clean with a toothbrush, drip dry, then spray down with WD-40 to get all the kerosene out. The kerosene really cuts the grime. Tsubaki said not to leave in the kerosene more than a few hours and especially not overnight, as it wiil cause the o-rings to swell. Excellent post Jim. Skip