True, and either luck or Divine intervention depending on you personal Faith0Meter!
Respect you ass for it bears you.
Well stated Phil. If we wanted to be perfectly safe, we wouldn't get in any moving vehicle. Talked to a friend yesterday, who looked at my car (at GofWest) and told of his wife's desire for an MG. They took a test ride and when large truck wheels stood higher than the car, they decided against it.
We are usually relatively good in a front end crash because we have two frame rail ram rods out there. Peter Zernial's crash in Scotland a case in point. Terry Sanders crash I mentioned was a real thumper, with the seat back flying out of the car. A broken sternum was relatively minor.
Allan Chalmers
From: Phil
To: Tweed
Cc: Allan Chalmers ; "
mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Re: Seat Belts
To add one bit, a paraphrase from a former acquaintance from the track, an engineer who designed seat/ restraint interfaces for the US auto industry: seat belts keep you in the safety cell of the modern car. Shoulder belts keep you out of the thoracic surgeons hands. Air bags keep you out of the ENT/orthodontics hands. Note this was all predicated on an engineered safety cell for the occupants.
As much as I love driving my TC, my safety equipment is the same I use on my bicycle while riding to work: my brain. The TC might ( and I do mean 'might' ) be more dangerous on public roads than a bicycle, but I'll bet they're not far apart.
Respect you ass for it bears you.
On Jun 20, 2015, at 12:12, "Tweed
lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk [mg-tabc]" wrote:
The most sense I've read regarding seat belts in a TC, thanks Phil.
From: "Phil
mgpsmith@att.net [mg-tabc]"
To: Allan Chalmers
Cc: "
mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015, 16:14
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Re: Seat Belts
Restraint systems are integrated with seating and structure. I too have hit hard, broke steering rack free from its moorings broke the steering wheel, broke the chin bar on my helmet...while wearing 5-point harness in an SCCA-approved full cage-equipped MGBGT with race seats and a fuel cell (this was just before HANS devices were ubiquitous.). If you want the TC to be "safe" then you need to cage it, put proper chairs in it, and good restraints. Not to mention reinforce the frame, redesign the engine mounts, attend to fuel and electrical safety, and install side beams.
The TC is not a car for those primarily worried about safety. My opinion is that belts (2 or 3 point) as a stand-alone effort offer only the delusion of safety. (If you're belting in to reduce seat slide/enhance car control i cannot argue). Perhaps it's better to be thrown form the car (so should we wear helmets?).
Respect you ass for it bears you.
On Jun 20, 2015, at 0:07, "Allan Chalmers
allanchalmers@yahoo.com [mg-tabc]" wrote:
Ask Terry Sanders to send a pic of his steering wheel after an idiot pulled out of a side street in front of him. Ask him about his broken sternum.
Ask me about a VW crash where my head broke the steering wheel.
Please use shoulder belts - we are a rare and aging species.
Allan Chalmers TA TC (no more VW bugs)
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