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Gasoline or paint remover?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:38 pm
by laf48@aol.com
I filled my tank to 2" below the neck, too much on a hot day. I don't know what gasoline is made of in the metro NY area, but it is a good paint remover! Len [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: Gasoline or paint remover?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:24 pm
by Maurice Paton
Methanol in the petrol will remove your paint especially if you have used cellulose lacquer. To test for methanol in petrol, put some water (about an inch) in a bottle and mark the level. Fill the rest with the suspect petrol. Shake it up and when it has settled see if the water level has dropped below the previous mark. If it has the petrol contains methanol! Maurice TC9357 -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of laf48@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2005 10:39 a.m. To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Gasoline or paint remover? I filled my tank to 2" below the neck, too much on a hot day. I don't know what gasoline is made of in the metro NY area, but it is a good paint remover! Len [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: Gasoline or paint remover?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:04 pm
by Stephen D Stierman
The cocktail of chemicals in modern petrol, methanol or not will damage lacquer paint and may stain other types. I plan to paint my TC with acrylic lacquer, but the tank and under bonnet areas will be done in two pack. cheers, S. Stierman TC 2911 --- laf48@aol.com wrote:
> I filled my tank to 2" below the neck, too much on a > hot day. I don't know > what gasoline is made of in the metro NY area, but > it is a good paint remover! > Len > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mg-tabc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > >

Re: Gasoline or paint remover?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:11 am
by Stephen D Stierman
Yes, two pack is very nice, particularly if you have a paint booth or if you are having someone else do the work. Without a dust free enviornment the finished product may not stand up to close instpection. However if you do your own paint, body, and touch up, acrylic lacquer is very nice and forgiving and can provide a glass smooth surface that looks like what a '48 TC might have had on it. It is quite durable, after all GM used it for years and easily repairable. My TC will not be an every day driver so I really have no qualms about it. Somehow I'm not quite sure base coat clear coat is the look I am after. It is also a pig to touch up. S. Stierman TC 2911 --- 1939mgtb 1939mgtb@comcast.net> wrote:
> two pack rules! why repaint and repaint and repaint > when you can do it once > and forget it. you can clean oil and tar off with > lacquer cleaner! > Best, > Ray > > "Much can be achieved with a smile. > However, much more can be achieved with a smile and > a gun." > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen D Stierman" > morgan7709@sbcglobal.net> > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:04 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Gasoline or paint remover? > > > > The cocktail of chemicals in modern petrol, > methanol > > or not will damage lacquer paint and may stain > other > > types. I plan to paint my TC with acrylic > lacquer, > > but the tank and under bonnet areas will be done > in > > two pack. > > cheers, > > S. Stierman TC 2911 > > --- laf48@aol.com wrote: > >> I filled my tank to 2" below the neck, too much > on a > >> hot day. I don't know > >> what gasoline is made of in the metro NY area, > but > >> it is a good paint remover! > >> Len > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > >> removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> mg-tabc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > mg-tabc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Gasoline or paint remover?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:11 am
by 1939mgtb
two pack rules! why repaint and repaint and repaint when you can do it once and forget it. you can clean oil and tar off with lacquer cleaner! Best, Ray "Much can be achieved with a smile. However, much more can be achieved with a smile and a gun."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen D Stierman" morgan7709@sbcglobal.net> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Gasoline or paint remover? > The cocktail of chemicals in modern petrol, methanol > or not will damage lacquer paint and may stain other > types. I plan to paint my TC with acrylic lacquer, > but the tank and under bonnet areas will be done in > two pack. > cheers, > S. Stierman TC 2911 > --- laf48@aol.com wrote: >> I filled my tank to 2" below the neck, too much on a >> hot day. I don't know >> what gasoline is made of in the metro NY area, but >> it is a good paint remover! >> Len >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> mg-tabc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Re: Gasoline or paint remover?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:37 pm
by 1939mgtb
Guys, I have used Sikkens epoxy hardened paint in my old garage with the correct breather/filter for me ! It can be color sanded and buffed just like lacquer, and when finished has the soft look of the original paint. You do not have to use clear coat! Lacquer is great unless you spill modern "gas" on it one time.....then you are back in the shop. It also chips like crazy, and speaking of, crazes over time. Epoxy paint is light years ahead of lacquer when it comes to durability! UVR proof (in the dark colors, too). And easy to touch up IF it gets a chip.....(it would take a hammer!) Best, Ray "Much can be achieved with a smile. However, much more can be achieved with a smile and a gun."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen D Stierman" morgan7709@sbcglobal.net> To: "1939mgtb" 1939mgtb@comcast.net>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Gasoline or paint remover? > Yes, two pack is very nice, particularly if you have a > paint booth or if you are having someone else do the > work. Without a dust free enviornment the finished > product may not stand up to close instpection. > However if you do your own paint, body, and touch up, > acrylic lacquer is very nice and forgiving and can > provide a glass smooth surface that looks like what a > '48 TC might have had on it. It is quite durable, > after all GM used it for years and easily repairable. > My TC will not be an every day driver so I really have > no qualms about it. Somehow I'm not quite sure base > coat clear coat is the look I am after. It is also a > pig to touch up. > S. Stierman TC 2911 > > --- 1939mgtb 1939mgtb@comcast.net> wrote: > >> two pack rules! why repaint and repaint and repaint >> when you can do it once >> and forget it. you can clean oil and tar off with >> lacquer cleaner! >> Best, >> Ray >> >> "Much can be achieved with a smile. >> However, much more can be achieved with a smile and >> a gun." >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stephen D Stierman" >> morgan7709@sbcglobal.net> >> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Gasoline or paint remover? >> >> >> > The cocktail of chemicals in modern petrol, >> methanol >> > or not will damage lacquer paint and may stain >> other >> > types. I plan to paint my TC with acrylic >> lacquer, >> > but the tank and under bonnet areas will be done >> in >> > two pack. >> > cheers, >> > S. Stierman TC 2911 >> > --- laf48@aol.com wrote: >> >> I filled my tank to 2" below the neck, too much >> on a >> >> hot day. I don't know >> >> what gasoline is made of in the metro NY area, >> but >> >> it is a good paint remover! >> >> Len >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> >> removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> mg-tabc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > mg-tabc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Re: Gasoline or paint remover?

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:48 am
by Jim or Jan Sullivan
Stephen, I agree, acrylic lacquer looks great on a TC. The modern plastic look is for a Honda or Chev. The modern paint may last longer but looks way out of place on a TC. Jim Sullivan TC 7517 EXU

Re: Gasoline or paint remover?

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:55 pm
by 1939mgtb
Guys, I think you mis-understand. I am NOT advocating a modern clear-coat over the color. That produces the modern sharply shiny paint that looks very wrong on the old cars. I AM saying that a catalyzed paint will stand up to more abuse, and have a proper soft shine look when applied and buffed properly. If you don't drive your car much, paint the car on the patio, or don't mind touching up the paint continually on the gas tank every time you spill gas on it, use lacquer. BTW, lacquer WASN'T used on the cars new..... :-0 I don't care if you brush paint the cars with Rustoleum...they belong to you! Best, Ray "Much can be achieved with a smile. However, much more can be achieved with a smile and a gun."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim or Jan Sullivan" jorjsullivan@msn.com> To: "1939mgtb" 1939mgtb@comcast.net>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Stephen D Stierman" morgan7709@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Gasoline or paint remover? > Stephen, > > I agree, acrylic lacquer looks great on a TC. The modern plastic look is > for a Honda or Chev. The modern paint may last longer but looks way out of > place on a TC. > Jim Sullivan TC 7517 EXU > > >

Re: Gasoline or paint remover?

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:12 pm
by Chip Old
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:13 -0500, 1939mgtb wrote:
> BTW, lacquer WASN'T used on the cars new..... :-0
Cellulose Enamel (UK) = Nitrocellulose Laquer (US) -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland fold@bcpl.net

Re: Gasoline or paint remover?

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:59 pm
by Charles Hill
Guys, unless you haven't noticed, lacquer is not an option for more and more areas. The solvents released are not environmentally friendly. The new stuff is more environmentally friendly. So what if it kills the painter. At least it doesn't kill any trees. :-) Regards, Charles Hill