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----- Original Message ----- From: "jones/pike" hhjthp@iglou.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Address change and question > Group: > > I have a new e-mail address: thpthree@iglou.com. > > I am putting the cylinder head on block of TC 2481, getting ready to put > rebuilt engine and transmission in restored chassis. Should I put washers > under head nuts and, if yes, should they be lock or flat? What is torque > setting for these nuts/studs? I know sequence but can't find a torque > value. > > Tom Pike > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
----- Original Message ----- From: "jones/pike" To: Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Address change and question > Group: > > I have a new e-mail address: thpthree@iglou.com. > > I am putting the cylinder head on block of TC 2481, getting ready to put > rebuilt engine and transmission in restored chassis. Should I put washers > under head nuts and, if yes, should they be lock or flat? What is torque > setting for these nuts/studs? I know sequence but can't find a torque > value. > > Tom Pike > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
-- Ochrana proti p esm rov n na drah linky. Ji dn vysok ty! VOLN internet alarm - je t bezpe n j surfov n ! Sta en i pou v n je ZDARMA na http://alarm.volny.cz> Hiya Tom, ...Ray`s right..no lockwashers of any > kind...but I`m not sure of the benefits of hardened > washers.....if I`m understanding Ray`s `brindling` as > being the scoring of a mild steel washer by the > nut/bolt head as it`s tightened, then this would > provide enough of a locking action and presumably did > when the engine was first built, ...........`if it > ain`t broke, don`t mend it`.... > Can`t help you with the torque value..only to say that > the figure quoted in `Malcolm Green`s `T` RESTORATION > GUIDE` for a TD is 500 lb/in...... > > All the best and enjoy your rebuild.....Tweed (not > Liz....) TC 2259... > > 1939mgtb 1939mgtb@comcast.net> wrote: > Hardened washers under the head nuts give you a more > consistent torque > reading and less brindling. > Please, please don't put lock washers under head nuts > (or bolts on other > engines..) > Best, > Ray > "Morology is our profession, > our ONLY profession!" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jones/pike" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:54 PM > Subject: [mg-tabc] Address change and question > > > > Group: > > > > I have a new e-mail address: thpthree@iglou.com. > > > > I am putting the cylinder head on block of TC 2481, > > getting ready to put > > rebuilt engine and transmission in restored chassis. > > Should I put washers > > under head nuts and, if yes, should they be lock or > > flat? What is torque > > setting for these nuts/studs? I know sequence but > > can't find a torque > > value. > > > > Tom Pike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lodge" archie_ponsonby@post.cz> To: lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; hhjthp@iglou.com> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Address change and question Hello Tweed, My wife insists that my motto should be: "If it isn't broken, fix it until it is broken!" The nerve! Regards, David Lodge ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE ----- From: "Liz Harris" lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com,"jones/pike" hhjthp@iglou.com> Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Address change and question Date: 8.5.2005 - 21:56:42 > Hiya Tom, ...Ray`s right..no lockwashers of any > kind...but I`m not sure of the benefits of hardened > washers.....if I`m understanding Ray`s `brindling` as > being the scoring of a mild steel washer by the > nut/bolt head as it`s tightened, then this would > provide enough of a locking action and presumably did > when the engine was first built, ...........`if it > ain`t broke, don`t mend it`.... > Can`t help you with the torque value..only to say that > the figure quoted in `Malcolm Green`s `T` RESTORATION > GUIDE` for a TD is 500 lb/in...... > > All the best and enjoy your rebuild.....Tweed (not > Liz....) TC 2259... > > 1939mgtb 1939mgtb@comcast.net> wrote: > Hardened washers under the head nuts give you a more > consistent torque > reading and less brindling. > Please, please don't put lock washers under head nuts > (or bolts on other > engines..) > Best, > Ray > "Morology is our profession, > our ONLY profession!" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jones/pike" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:54 PM > Subject: [mg-tabc] Address change and question > > > > Group: > > > > I have a new e-mail address: thpthree@iglou.com. > > > > I am putting the cylinder head on block of TC 2481, > > getting ready to put > > rebuilt engine and transmission in restored chassis. > > Should I put washers > > under head nuts and, if yes, should they be lock or > > flat? What is torque > > setting for these nuts/studs? I know sequence but > > can't find a torque > > value. > > > > Tom Pike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- Ochrana proti p esm rov n na drah linky. Ji dn vysok ty! VOLN internet alarm - je t bezpe n j surfov n ! Sta en i pou v n je ZDARMA na http://alarm.volny.cz Yahoo! Groups Links
> There is no need of any locking device of any type on the head nuts. > Brindling makes for inconsistant torque readings as the nut goes over the > little shreded bits of steel. > A hardened washer gives a true torque reading. > But then these engines were put together in a somewhat less than modern > manner, right? > On the other hand, I don't build my V-8 racing engines the same way they > were put together in the mid-60's, either. We use sonic cleaning, long-rod > technology, etc. to make them more reliable. > The old method works: use it if you like. No dog in this hunt! > Best, > Ray > "Morology is our profession, > our ONLY profession!" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lodge" archie_ponsonby@post.cz> > To: lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; hhjthp@iglou.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 3:10 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Address change and question > > > Hello Tweed, > > My wife insists that my motto should be: "If it isn't broken, fix > it until it is broken!" The nerve! > > Regards, David Lodge > > > > ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE ----- > From: "Liz Harris" lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk> > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com,"jones/pike" hhjthp@iglou.com> > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Address change and question > Date: 8.5.2005 - 21:56:42 > >> Hiya Tom, ...Ray`s right..no lockwashers of any >> kind...but I`m not sure of the benefits of hardened >> washers.....if I`m understanding Ray`s `brindling` as >> being the scoring of a mild steel washer by the >> nut/bolt head as it`s tightened, then this would >> provide enough of a locking action and presumably did >> when the engine was first built, ...........`if it >> ain`t broke, don`t mend it`.... >> Can`t help you with the torque value..only to say that >> the figure quoted in `Malcolm Green`s `T` RESTORATION >> GUIDE` for a TD is 500 lb/in...... >> >> All the best and enjoy your rebuild.....Tweed (not >> Liz....) TC 2259... >> >> 1939mgtb 1939mgtb@comcast.net> wrote: >> Hardened washers under the head nuts give you a more >> consistent torque >> reading and less brindling. >> Please, please don't put lock washers under head nuts >> (or bolts on other >> engines..) >> Best, >> Ray >> "Morology is our profession, >> our ONLY profession!" >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "jones/pike" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:54 PM >> Subject: [mg-tabc] Address change and question >> >> >>> Group: >>> >>> I have a new e-mail address: thpthree@iglou.com. >>> >>> I am putting the cylinder head on block of TC 2481, >>> getting ready to put >>> rebuilt engine and transmission in restored chassis. >>> Should I put washers >>> under head nuts and, if yes, should they be lock or >>> flat? What is torque >>> setting for these nuts/studs? I know sequence but >>> can't find a torque >>> value. >>> >>> Tom Pike >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Send instant messages to your online friends >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >