Wilsons Sandbox

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:53 pm**

Last week we learned that MG-Rover had gone into bankruptcy, or "administration". Today the Associated Press reported that Prince Charles and his bride drove to church services in Scotland where they are on their honeymoon. Charles was driving an Audi. How's that for poor timing. Richard Fritz, TC6649, Colorado USA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:07 pm**

Prince Charles first car was an MGC GT and the Royal family use British cars to a great extent. I believe his personal car is a Bentley and a couple of Aston Martins. The Queen has a Bentley as an official car. Presumably the Audi was bought to try to fool the press. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Fritz [mailto:RBFritz@comcast.net] Sent: 11 April 2005 22:50 To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] State of the auto industry in the U.K. Last week we learned that MG-Rover had gone into bankruptcy, or "administration". Today the Associated Press reported that Prince Charles and his bride drove to church services in Scotland where they are on their honeymoon. Charles was driving an Audi. How's that for poor timing. Richard Fritz, TC6649, Colorado USA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:39 pm**

Bentley is owned by Volkswagon and Aston Martin by Ford. HRH Prince Charles would have to drive a Rover or an MG to be 'British.' and, given recent events, pretty soon MG Rover will either disappear or be 'foreign.' Too bad that UK engineering excellence has always been overshadowed by abysmally poor management and even worse labour relations and performance. Where are the modern day Bill Morris's or Cecil Kimbers?? Aubrey --- In mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com, "MERLIN GARAGES" wrote:

> > Prince Charles first car was an MGC GT and the Royal family use

British

> cars to a great extent. I believe his personal car is a Bentley

and a

> couple of Aston Martins. > The Queen has a Bentley as an official car. Presumably the Audi was > bought to try to fool the press. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Fritz [mailto:RBFritz@c...] > Sent: 11 April 2005 22:50 > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [mg-tabc] State of the auto industry in the U.K. > > > Last week we learned that MG-Rover had gone into bankruptcy, or > "administration". Today the Associated Press reported that Prince > Charles and his bride drove to church services in Scotland where

they

> are on their honeymoon. Charles was driving an Audi. > > How's that for poor timing. > > Richard Fritz, TC6649, Colorado USA > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:02 pm**

MG needs to be rid of Rover. The MG F is a very good car, but like so many MGs before, no further development was possible because Rover was eating all the money. And that's my grenade under the tent flap........ Best regards, Ray "There are no easy answers in this case m'lud."

----- Original Message ----- From: "scooter19392003" rockdctr@hotmail.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:39 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Re: State of the auto industry in the U.K. > > > Bentley is owned by Volkswagon and Aston Martin by Ford. HRH Prince > Charles would have to drive a Rover or an MG to be 'British.' and, > given recent events, pretty soon MG Rover will either disappear or > be 'foreign.' Too bad that UK engineering excellence has always > been overshadowed by abysmally poor management and even worse labour > relations and performance. Where are the modern day Bill Morris's or > Cecil Kimbers?? > > Aubrey > > --- In mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com, "MERLIN GARAGES" > wrote: >> >> Prince Charles first car was an MGC GT and the Royal family use > British >> cars to a great extent. I believe his personal car is a Bentley > and a >> couple of Aston Martins. >> The Queen has a Bentley as an official car. Presumably the Audi was >> bought to try to fool the press. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Fritz [mailto:RBFritz@c...] >> Sent: 11 April 2005 22:50 >> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [mg-tabc] State of the auto industry in the U.K. >> >> >> Last week we learned that MG-Rover had gone into bankruptcy, or >> "administration". Today the Associated Press reported that Prince >> Charles and his bride drove to church services in Scotland where > they >> are on their honeymoon. Charles was driving an Audi. >> >> How's that for poor timing. >> >> Richard Fritz, TC6649, Colorado USA >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:14 pm**

There is one British automobile company that was founded long before MG and is still going. Charles Hill scooter19392003 wrote:

>Bentley is owned by Volkswagon and Aston Martin by Ford. HRH Prince >Charles would have to drive a Rover or an MG to be 'British.' and, >given recent events, pretty soon MG Rover will either disappear or >be 'foreign.' Too bad that UK engineering excellence has always >been overshadowed by abysmally poor management and even worse labour >relations and performance. Where are the modern day Bill Morris's or >Cecil Kimbers?? > >Aubrey > > > > >

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:18 pm**

But where can one find a Lanchester dealer?

Best regards, Ray "There are no easy answers in this case m'lud."

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Hill" candahill@worldnet.att.net> Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Re: State of the auto industry in the U.K. > > There is one British automobile company that was founded long before MG > and is still going. > > Charles Hill > > scooter19392003 wrote: > >>Bentley is owned by Volkswagon and Aston Martin by Ford. HRH Prince >>Charles would have to drive a Rover or an MG to be 'British.' and, >>given recent events, pretty soon MG Rover will either disappear or >>be 'foreign.' Too bad that UK engineering excellence has always >>been overshadowed by abysmally poor management and even worse labour >>relations and performance. Where are the modern day Bill Morris's or >>Cecil Kimbers?? >> >>Aubrey >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:45 pm**

Morgan is a boutique car producer and today is essentially a bistsa - bits a this and bits a that assembled and essentially made to order by Morgan. With waiting lists and a very limited range of cars a succesfsful marque, but hardly a manufacturer! Aubrey

--- In mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com, Charles Hill wrote: > There is one British automobile company that was founded long before MG > and is still going. > > Charles Hill > > scooter19392003 wrote: > > >Bentley is owned by Volkswagon and Aston Martin by Ford. HRH Prince > >Charles would have to drive a Rover or an MG to be 'British.' and, > >given recent events, pretty soon MG Rover will either disappear or > >be 'foreign.' Too bad that UK engineering excellence has always > >been overshadowed by abysmally poor management and even worse labour > >relations and performance. Where are the modern day Bill Morris's or > >Cecil Kimbers?? > > > >Aubrey > > > > > > > > > >

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:04 pm**

Similar in some respects to Ferrari. Fred TC1353, Ferrari Modena 360 -----Original Message----- From: scooter19392003 [mailto:rockdctr@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:45 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Re: State of the auto industry in the U.K. Morgan is a boutique car producer and today is essentially a bistsa - bits a this and bits a that assembled and essentially made to order by Morgan. With waiting lists and a very limited range of cars a succesfsful marque, but hardly a manufacturer! Aubrey

--- In mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com, Charles Hill wrote: > There is one British automobile company that was founded long before MG > and is still going. > > Charles Hill > > scooter19392003 wrote: > > >Bentley is owned by Volkswagon and Aston Martin by Ford. HRH Prince > >Charles would have to drive a Rover or an MG to be 'British.' and, > >given recent events, pretty soon MG Rover will either disappear or > >be 'foreign.' Too bad that UK engineering excellence has always > >been overshadowed by abysmally poor management and even worse labour > >relations and performance. Where are the modern day Bill Morris's or > >Cecil Kimbers?? > > > >Aubrey > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:39 am**

Prince Charles bought the MG and the Astons when they were British owned. Princess Anne,s first car was a Rover and she drove a number of Reliant Scimitars. Prince Phillip drove an MG TC when he was courting the Queen and I believe his last personal car was a Bristol. The Queen drove a number of Rovers as personal cars. The Queens official car is now a Bentley and Princess Anne and Prince Charles also have Bentleys so presumably they have as much distaste for BMW who own Rolls Royce as I have! To my knowledge they buy British as much as possible and as I have said before don't believe the press they just want to sell newspapers not tell the truth.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:01 am**

Hmmm. Soviet leaders always travelled in Zils as far as I recall - but I guess no-one else liked them much. What is one supposed to conclude from the preferences of people whose choices are constrained by their positions? Graham At 10:39 12/04/2005 +0100, MERLIN GARAGES wrote:

>Prince Charles bought the MG and the Astons when they were British >owned. >Princess Anne,s first car was a Rover and she drove a number of Reliant >Scimitars. >Prince Phillip drove an MG TC when he was courting the Queen and I >believe his last personal car was a Bristol. >The Queen drove a number of Rovers as personal cars. >The Queens official car is now a Bentley and Princess Anne and Prince >Charles also have Bentleys so presumably they have as much distaste for >BMW who own Rolls Royce as I have! >To my knowledge they buy British as much as possible and as I have said >before don't believe the press they just want to sell newspapers not >tell the truth. > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >