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On 3/23/05 12:25 PM, "harry van malder" harryvan@eresmas.com> wrote: > > Dear group members > > I have to assembly my engine after crack repairs, etc, > Can anyone give me the torque settings for > > main bearing > big end bearing > flywheel > cam shaft > head bolts > > Thanks in advance > Harry

> Harry, > > All those torque figures can be found on our TABC web site under Technology > or go direct to: > http://mg-tabc.org/techn-up/torque.htm > > I ask the group again though, "Does anyone know where these figures were > sourced from?" I ask because some values vary slightly from sources I have. > > David Edgar, TC 5108 > El Cajon, California > > On 3/23/05 12:25 PM, "harry van malder" harryvan@eresmas.com> wrote: > >> >> Dear group members >> >> I have to assembly my engine after crack repairs, etc, >> Can anyone give me the torque settings for >> >> main bearing >> big end bearing >> flywheel >> cam shaft >> head bolts >> >> Thanks in advance >> Harry

> > Dear group members > > I have to assembly my engine after crack repairs, etc, > Can anyone give me the torque settings for > > main bearing > big end bearing > flywheel > cam shaft > head bolts > > Thanks in advance > Harry > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Muir" rogermuir@btinternet.com> To: "harry van malder" harryvan@eresmas.com>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] MPJG assembly > > As an MPJG user in my TA one thing to be aware of is the careful > tightening > down of the cylinder head. > > > DON'T rush it in one go, part tighten one day and finish off the next. > > > MPJG blocks are weak, especially given their age!, around the tapped holes > into the block. > > > Go easy. > > > Roger Muir > > Bromsgrove England > > > > > on 23/3/05 8:25 pm, harry van malder at harryvan@eresmas.com wrote: > >> >> Dear group members >> >> I have to assembly my engine after crack repairs, etc, >> Can anyone give me the torque settings for >> >> main bearing >> big end bearing >> flywheel >> cam shaft >> head bolts >> >> Thanks in advance >> Harry >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: SherParker@aol.com> To: harryvan@eresmas.com>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] MPJG assembly > > > In a message dated 3/24/05 10:07:45 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > harryvan@eresmas.com writes: > > Maybe this is a warning to other people , just as I, who put their trust > in > the so called specialists, who declare that they are dedicated to the old > MG's. The experience so far learned me that they are just dedicated to my > money, > and nothing more than that. > > > > Harry, Will will you share with us the name of the supplier? Thanks, > > Sherwood Parker > TC 8355 > Tempe, Arizona > USA > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "harry van malder" harryvan@eresmas.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:43 AM Subject: [mg-tabc] MPJG assembly > > Dear group members > > Thanks for the information some gave me about this item. > I want to tell you very briefly what happened to me .( sorry for the bad > english, but this is the best I can) > After buying my TA car, turned out that the engine block had cracks on > different places.Being very worried about this,I already asked some advice > to our list, with very poor results of answers, but I also understand that > it is not so easy to resolve the problem of engine cracks by simple > E-mail. > After some telephone calls to one of our major, very known , and very > respected suppliers in the U:K: I got the answer: NO guarantee, but we had > in the past some good results, not just for cracked engines, but even for > engines almost falling apart. I should take the risk. > As I already bought for thousands of pounds spare parts to these > people,all of them to my full satisfaction by delivery, logically, I toke > the risk, instead of putting in my car the not original XPAG engine. > This is where it went wrong. > After six months,( I must admit,they were not in a hurry, neither was I), > I got the answer that my MPJG engine was inreparable, and that I should > think about the XPAG engine alternative. Of course, to come to this result > and for doing a pressure test, they send me an invoice of 600 pounds .By > asking more questions, they could supplie me a used XPAG engine for the > price of 10.000 pounds.This was so expensive because I also needed all the > items around, wich were starter motor, clutch, gearbox, etc. > They also would buy( take over) my old MPJG engine, including this so > called expensive parts wich I had, all in perfect condition and original, > for 200 pounds. > I did not agree with that.I asked them to send my engine back( wich they > did after saying that the sending back were just more costs and they also > could throw the engine at the garbage, as well as I). > Now finally the engine came back, thanks to an UK friend who went over > there and toke it out of their hands. I noticed that it was welded on 5 > different places( I must say, beautifull work, done by a person with good > skills). As the head was off, I putted water into the water gallerys, > putted pressure on it,and the water stayed in for weeks without lowering > and flowing into the carter, wich was my former problem. > As I see it now, I think that my engine is repared.( could this maybe te > reason of not being very willing to send it back, at the end you don't > know anymore what to think about) This is also why i want to assembly it > again and see what happens. I am only risking my work and time) > Therefore I asked to you listers the right torque settings of the bolts i > asked in my former mail.( if of all listers, there is no one who has the > right settings, then I doubt about the quality of the list) > If nobody can tell me these, then I will assembly it on the way of old > days, by trying and feeling and touching, and seeing what happens. > The all story once again learned me that I should have a little bit more > confidence in myself, instead of getting confidence in people who know > less about it than myself. > Maybe this is a warning to other people , just as I, who put their trust > in the so called specialists, who declare that they are dedicated to the > old MG's. The experience so far learned me that they are just dedicated to > my money, and nothing more than that. > All the prices I mentioned I can prove by invoices an faxes send to me. > > Please send me the settings, if anyone knows them, quickly because i will > assembly my engine tomorrow. > I don't want to wait longer. After two years wasted by specialists , I > want to drive my car. > > Thanks a lot > Harry > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 23/03/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 23/03/2005

----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Clayton" andyc@alphalink.com.au> To: "harry van malder" harryvan@eresmas.com>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] MPJG assembly > > "By asking more questions, they could supplie me a used XPAG engine for > the > price of 10.000 pounds.This was so expensive because I also needed all the > items around, wich were starter motor, clutch, gearbox, etc." > > 10,000 pounds for a used XPAG???? You could almost buy a complete, albeit > rough, TC for this, including engine. Who are these idiots?? > > Andrew Clayton > Melbourne, Australia. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "harry van malder" harryvan@eresmas.com> > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:43 AM > Subject: [mg-tabc] MPJG assembly > > >> >> Dear group members >> >> Thanks for the information some gave me about this item. >> I want to tell you very briefly what happened to me .( sorry for the bad >> english, but this is the best I can) >> After buying my TA car, turned out that the engine block had cracks on >> different places.Being very worried about this,I already asked some >> advice >> to our list, with very poor results of answers, but I also understand >> that >> it is not so easy to resolve the problem of engine cracks by simple >> E-mail. >> After some telephone calls to one of our major, very known , and very >> respected suppliers in the U:K: I got the answer: NO guarantee, but we >> had >> in the past some good results, not just for cracked engines, but even for >> engines almost falling apart. I should take the risk. >> As I already bought for thousands of pounds spare parts to these >> people,all of them to my full satisfaction by delivery, logically, I toke >> the risk, instead of putting in my car the not original XPAG engine. >> This is where it went wrong. >> After six months,( I must admit,they were not in a hurry, neither was I), >> I got the answer that my MPJG engine was inreparable, and that I should >> think about the XPAG engine alternative. Of course, to come to this >> result >> and for doing a pressure test, they send me an invoice of 600 pounds .By >> asking more questions, they could supplie me a used XPAG engine for the >> price of 10.000 pounds.This was so expensive because I also needed all >> the >> items around, wich were starter motor, clutch, gearbox, etc. >> They also would buy( take over) my old MPJG engine, including this so >> called expensive parts wich I had, all in perfect condition and original, >> for 200 pounds. >> I did not agree with that.I asked them to send my engine back( wich they >> did after saying that the sending back were just more costs and they also >> could throw the engine at the garbage, as well as I). >> Now finally the engine came back, thanks to an UK friend who went over >> there and toke it out of their hands. I noticed that it was welded on 5 >> different places( I must say, beautifull work, done by a person with good >> skills). As the head was off, I putted water into the water gallerys, >> putted pressure on it,and the water stayed in for weeks without lowering >> and flowing into the carter, wich was my former problem. >> As I see it now, I think that my engine is repared.( could this maybe >> te >> reason of not being very willing to send it back, at the end you don't >> know anymore what to think about) This is also why i want to assembly it >> again and see what happens. I am only risking my work and time) >> Therefore I asked to you listers the right torque settings of the bolts i >> asked in my former mail.( if of all listers, there is no one who has the >> right settings, then I doubt about the quality of the list) >> If nobody can tell me these, then I will assembly it on the way of old >> days, by trying and feeling and touching, and seeing what happens. >> The all story once again learned me that I should have a little bit more >> confidence in myself, instead of getting confidence in people who know >> less about it than myself. >> Maybe this is a warning to other people , just as I, who put their trust >> in the so called specialists, who declare that they are dedicated to the >> old MG's. The experience so far learned me that they are just dedicated >> to >> my money, and nothing more than that. >> All the prices I mentioned I can prove by invoices an faxes send to me. >> >> Please send me the settings, if anyone knows them, quickly because i will >> assembly my engine tomorrow. >> I don't want to wait longer. After two years wasted by specialists , I >> want to drive my car. >> >> Thanks a lot >> Harry >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 23/03/2005 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 23/03/2005 > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >