XPAG on engine stand

[Graham]

I want to bolt my engine to a stand. Are the 4 bell housing bolts and the tapped holes in the block strong enough? It doesn't look much . I need to avoid any use of the holes in the alloy sump, as I will need to rotate the engine, and remove it. Any advice welcome. Graham Sent from my iPad

[Andrea VILLA]

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[dg573@btinternet.com]

#ygrps-yiv-664587822 p{margin:0;} Just in the process of doing that, myself. The onemillimetre thread in the block is a problem as it limits the bolts that can be used but I've done it before with good bolts and some steel short strips to line things up. I think it's actually a bit safer than it looks ! I'll let you know if it isn't !! David White

------ Original Message ------ From: "Graham graham47tc@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: "MG TC TC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, 12 Oct, 2019 At 09:08 Subject: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand I want to bolt my engine to a stand. Are the 4 bell housing bolts and the tapped holes in the block strong enough? It doesn't look much . I need to avoid any use of the holes in the alloy sump, as I will need to rotate the engine, and remove it. Any advice welcome. Graham Sent from my iPad

[Clive Sherriff]

The 1mm thread is no problem, It's standard Metric Fine thread. Easily available, bur not with BSF/Whit heads of course.Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 11:56, 'dg573@btinternet.com' dg573@btinternet.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] [u][/u] Just in the process of doing that, myself. The onemillimetre thread in the block is a problem as it limits the bolts that can be used but I've done it before with good bolts and some steel short strips to line things up. I think it's actually a bit safer than it looks ! I'll let you know if it isn't !! David White ------ Original Message ------ From: "Graham graham47tc@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: "MG TC TC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, 12 Oct, 2019 At 09:08 Subject: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand I want to bolt my engine to a stand. Are the 4 bell housing bolts and the tapped holes in the block strong enough? It doesn't look much . I need to avoid any use of the holes in the alloy sump, as I will need to rotate the engine, and remove it. Any advice welcome. Graham Sent from my iPad

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Use quality hardware and try to get the bolt as deep into the hole as possible without bottoming.  In my opinion, all of the bolts should go into the block, never into the sump. - Steve Simmons, TC8975

On October 12, 2019 1:08:34 AM "Graham graham47tc@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  I want to bolt my engine to a stand. Are the 4 bell housing bolts and the tapped holes in the block strong enough? It doesn't look much . I need to avoid any use of the holes in the alloy sump, as I will need to rotate the engine, and remove it. Any advice welcome. Graham Sent from my iPad

[Duncan]

Standard Metric Fine is generally what people call 1.25mm.  I think the threads in question are 8 x 1.00.  Not standard, but often can be found.Duncan-

On Saturday, October 12, 2019, 06:00:48 AM PDT, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  The 1mm thread is no problem,  It's standard Metric Fine thread.  Easily available, bur not with BSF/Whit heads of course.Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img]Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 11:56, 'dg573@btinternet.com' dg573@btinternet.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   [u][/u] Just in the process of doing that, myself. The onemillimetre thread in the block is a problem as it limits the bolts that can be used but I've done it before with good bolts and some steel short strips to line things up. I think it's actually a bit safer than it looks ! I'll let you know if it isn't !! David White ------ Original Message ------ From: "Graham graham47tc@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: "MG TC TC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, 12 Oct, 2019 At 09:08 Subject: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand I want to bolt my engine to a stand. Are the 4 bell housing bolts and the tapped holes in the block strong enough? It doesn't look much . I need to avoid any use of the holes in the alloy sump, as I will need to rotate the engine, and remove it. Any advice welcome. Graham Sent from my iPad [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img]Virus-free. www.avast.com

[Edward CALLO]

Never had any trouble buying 8x100 in 10.8 or 12.8 locally here in Conn Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2019, at 6:38 PM, Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Standard Metric Fine is generally what people call 1.25mm.  I think the threads in question are 8 x 1.00.  Not standard, but often can be found.Duncan- On Saturday, October 12, 2019, 06:00:48 AM PDT, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   The 1mm thread is no problem,  It's standard Metric Fine thread.  Easily available, bur not with BSF/Whit heads of course.Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img]Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 11:56, 'dg573@btinternet.com' dg573@btinternet.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   [u][/u] Just in the process of doing that, myself. The onemillimetre thread in the block is a problem as it limits the bolts that can be used but I've done it before with good bolts and some steel short strips to line things up. I think it's actually a bit safer than it looks ! I'll let you know if it isn't !! David White ------ Original Message ------ From: "Graham graham47tc@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: "MG TC TC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, 12 Oct, 2019 At 09:08 Subject: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand I want to bolt my engine to a stand. Are the 4 bell housing bolts and the tapped holes in the block strong enough? It doesn't look much . I need to avoid any use of the holes in the alloy sump, as I will need to rotate the engine, and remove it. Any advice welcome. Graham Sent from my iPad [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img]Virus-free. www.avast.com

[Bill Hyatt]

-Bill HyattSent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message:

[b]From:[/b] Bill Hyatt usaj24@earthlink.net> [b]Date:[/b] October 12, 2019 at 11:37:58 AM EDT [b]To:[/b] "dg573@btinternet.com" dg573@btinternet.com> [b]Subject:[/b] [b]Re: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand[/b]

The m8x1 are same size as Conrad bolts & see MUCHBigger shear & tensile loads than static hanging shear loads.Shear strength for a 5/16 x24 Grade 2 at threads is mol 340 #, at full dia shank raises to mol 575 #. Metric m8x1 are marginally larger than 5/16 SAE bolt,In dia. & pitch is mol same in both. Form max strength use a high grade bolt. If bellhousing to block bolts are OEM original the should have a letter embossed on head denoting grade strength. https://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf/archive/index.php/t-12667.html just cross reference to match grade 8 SAE bolt to currant iso Class 8.8 or 10.9. Also see https://www.fastenermart.com/understanding-fastener-grades-and-classes.html Bill -Bill HyattSent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2019, at 6:56 AM, 'dg573@btinternet.com' dg573@btinternet.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   Just in the process of doing that, myself. The onemillimetre thread in the block is a problem as it limits the bolts that can be used but I've done it before with good bolts and some steel short strips to line things up. I think it's actually a bit safer than it looks ! I'll let you know if it isn't !! David White ------ Original Message ------ From: "Graham graham47tc@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: "MG TC TC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, 12 Oct, 2019 At 09:08 Subject: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand I want to bolt my engine to a stand. Are the 4 bell housing bolts and the tapped holes in the block strong enough? It doesn't look much . I need to avoid any use of the holes in the alloy sump, as I will need to rotate the engine, and remove it. Any advice welcome. Graham Sent from my iPad

[Clive Sherriff]

No, 1.25 is Standard Metric, 1.0 is Standard Metric Fine. [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 23:39, Duncan morelists@yahoo.com> wrote: Standard Metric Fine is generally what people call 1.25mm. I think the threads in question are 8 x 1.00. Not standard, but often can be found.Duncan- On Saturday, October 12, 2019, 06:00:48 AM PDT, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: The 1mm thread is no problem, It's standard Metric Fine thread. Easily available, bur not with BSF/Whit heads of course.Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img]Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 11:56, 'dg573@btinternet.com' dg573@btinternet.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] [u][/u] Just in the process of doing that, myself. The onemillimetre thread in the block is a problem as it limits the bolts that can be used but I've done it before with good bolts and some steel short strips to line things up. I think it's actually a bit safer than it looks ! I'll let you know if it isn't !! David White ------ Original Message ------ From: "Graham graham47tc@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: "MG TC TC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, 12 Oct, 2019 At 09:08 Subject: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand I want to bolt my engine to a stand. Are the 4 bell housing bolts and the tapped holes in the block strong enough? It doesn't look much . I need to avoid any use of the holes in the alloy sump, as I will need to rotate the engine, and remove it. Any advice welcome. Graham Sent from my iPad

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[Norman Verona]

For what it's worth I found it easiest to remove the head studs and put engine on the bench with sump uppermost tel: 0044 741 9905 741 [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, October 13, 2019 9:42:56 AM [b]To:[/b] Duncan morelists@yahoo.com> [b]Cc:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand     No, 1.25 is Standard Metric,   1.0 is Standard Metric Fine. [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 23:39, Duncan morelists@yahoo.com> wrote: Standard Metric Fine is generally what people call 1.25mm.  I think the threads in question are 8 x 1.00.  Not standard, but often can be found. Duncan- On Saturday, October 12, 2019, 06:00:48 AM PDT, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   The 1mm thread is no problem,  It's standard Metric Fine thread.  Easily available, bur not with BSF/Whit heads of course. Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 11:56, 'dg573@btinternet.com' dg573@btinternet.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   [u][/u] Just in the process of doing that, myself. The onemillimetre thread in the block is a problem as it limits the bolts that can be used but I've done it before with good bolts and some steel short strips to line things up. I think it's actually a bit safer than it looks ! I'll let you know if it isn't !! David White ------ Original Message ------ From: "Graham graham47tc@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: "MG TC TC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, 12 Oct, 2019 At 09:08 Subject: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand I want to bolt my engine to a stand. Are the 4 bell housing bolts and the tapped holes in the block strong enough? It doesn't look much . I need to avoid any use of the holes in the alloy sump, as I will need to rotate the engine, and remove it. Any advice welcome. Graham Sent from my iPad

[img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, October 13, 2019 9:42:56 AM [b]To:[/b] Duncan morelists@yahoo.com> [b]Cc:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand     No, 1.25 is Standard Metric,   1.0 is Standard Metric Fine. [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 23:39, Duncan morelists@yahoo.com> wrote: Standard Metric Fine is generally what people call 1.25mm.  I think the threads in question are 8 x 1.00.  Not standard, but often can be found. Duncan- On Saturday, October 12, 2019, 06:00:48 AM PDT, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   The 1mm thread is no problem,  It's standard Metric Fine thread.  Easily available, bur not with BSF/Whit heads of course. Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 11:56, 'dg573@btinternet.com' dg573@btinternet.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   [u][/u] Just in the process of doing that, myself. The onemillimetre thread in the block is a problem as it limits the bolts that can be used but I've done it before with good bolts and some steel short strips to line things up. I think it's actually a bit safer than it looks ! I'll let you know if it isn't !! David White ------ Original Message ------ From: "Graham graham47tc@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: "MG TC TC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, 12 Oct, 2019 At 09:08 Subject: [mg-tabc] XPAG on engine stand I want to bolt my engine to a stand. Are the 4 bell housing bolts and the tapped holes in the block strong enough? It doesn't look much . I need to avoid any use of the holes in the alloy sump, as I will need to rotate the engine, and remove it. Any advice welcome. Graham Sent from my iPad [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1571176829&sig=RWsvnLk_QXbxn2UCnWGWRg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com